Guest guest Posted July 17, 2006 Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 --- toombaru2006 <lastrain a écrit : > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " > <dan330033 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , > " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > ? > > > > > > > > D: Human beings are caught in the illusion > that there are individual > > > > body-minds that have some kind of great > realization. > > > > > > > > > There are no human beings caught in an > illusion....The conceptual me > > > arrises concurrently with the illusion. > > > > > > > > > > > > The characters in a dream are not caught in the > dream. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > You can negate any noun in any sentence if you > like, using the > > metaphor of a dream. Yet your negation must also > be negated, by the > > same logic you are using. > > > > So, let's continue on with the negation: > > > > There are no characters in a dream, for you to > speak of, nor a you > > which can know about dream characters. > > > > There is no dream which can be observed. > > > > -- D. > > > > > > > Above you refer to human beings that are 'caught in > the illusion' as > if they are distinct entities. > > Accepting the theory that they are distinct entities > that are caught > in illusion, is it your believe that they can > somehow excape their > supposed condition? > > > What I am proposing is that which you refer to as > " human biengs " are > nothing other then the confusion that results from > misidentification. > > The conceptual me......is annihilated...not > transformed or freed.... > with the understanding. > > > > > toombaru therefore, there is no escaping. But dissolution. Trying to escape by all means, one day, one may fall into a black hole and never resurface. Patricia > > > > > > > > > > _________________________ Mail réinvente le mail ! Découvrez le nouveau Mail et son interface révolutionnaire. http://fr.mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2006 Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 --- OConnor Patricia <gdtige wrote: > > --- toombaru2006 <lastrain a �crit�: > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " > > <dan330033 wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , > > " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > ? > > > > > > > > > > D: Human beings are caught in the illusion > > that there are individual > > > > > body-minds that have some kind of great > > realization. > > > > > > > > > > > > There are no human beings caught in an > > illusion....The conceptual me > > > > arrises concurrently with the illusion. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The characters in a dream are not caught in the > > dream. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > You can negate any noun in any sentence if you > > like, using the > > > metaphor of a dream. Yet your negation must also > > be negated, by the > > > same logic you are using. > > > > > > So, let's continue on with the negation: > > > > > > There are no characters in a dream, for you to > > speak of, nor a you > > > which can know about dream characters. > > > > > > There is no dream which can be observed. > > > > > > -- D. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Above you refer to human beings that are 'caught in > > the illusion' as > > if they are distinct entities. > > > > Accepting the theory that they are distinct entities > > that are caught > > in illusion, is it your believe that they can > > somehow excape their > > supposed condition? > > > > > > What I am proposing is that which you refer to as > > " human biengs " are > > nothing other then the confusion that results from > > misidentification. > > > > The conceptual me......is annihilated...not > > transformed or freed.... > > with the understanding. > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > therefore, there is no escaping. But dissolution. > > Trying to escape by all means, one day, one may fall > into a black hole and never resurface. I know of a specific case of that happening! Bill > > Patricia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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