Guest guest Posted July 17, 2006 Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 --- pliantheart <pliantheart a écrit : > > > --- OConnor Patricia <gdtige wrote: > > > > > --- toombaru2006 <lastrain a > �crit�: > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " > > > <dan330033 wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , > > > " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > ? > > > > > > > > > > > > D: Human beings are caught in the illusion > > > that there are individual > > > > > > body-minds that have some kind of great > > > realization. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are no human beings caught in an > > > illusion....The conceptual me > > > > > arrises concurrently with the illusion. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The characters in a dream are not caught in > the > > > dream. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > You can negate any noun in any sentence if you > > > like, using the > > > > metaphor of a dream. Yet your negation must > also > > > be negated, by the > > > > same logic you are using. > > > > > > > > So, let's continue on with the negation: > > > > > > > > There are no characters in a dream, for you to > > > speak of, nor a you > > > > which can know about dream characters. > > > > > > > > There is no dream which can be observed. > > > > > > > > -- D. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Above you refer to human beings that are 'caught > in > > > the illusion' as > > > if they are distinct entities. > > > > > > Accepting the theory that they are distinct > entities > > > that are caught > > > in illusion, is it your believe that they can > > > somehow excape their > > > supposed condition? > > > > > > > > > What I am proposing is that which you refer to > as > > > " human biengs " are > > > nothing other then the confusion that results > from > > > misidentification. > > > > > > The conceptual me......is annihilated...not > > > transformed or freed.... > > > with the understanding. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > therefore, there is no escaping. But dissolution. > > > > Trying to escape by all means, one day, one may > fall > > into a black hole and never resurface. > > I know of a specific case of that happening! > > Bill > > > > > > Patricia oh yeah??? > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > protection around > > _________________________ Mail réinvente le mail ! Découvrez le nouveau Mail et son interface révolutionnaire. http://fr.mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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