Guest guest Posted July 19, 2006 Report Share Posted July 19, 2006 whats the purpose in fighting with words he says this...she says that...fuss...fuss...fuss... in the end what are we fighting for... to win...to avoid loosing a battle with words ? words are mere jada jada...we act like they are our masters... we are sticking up for them like we must protect them from being beaten...what are we...their slaves ? mere idiots runing around this place identifying with one word....resisting another...pretending to be wise and loving ? while trying to help survive our favorite-words...by sometimes trying to kill the apparent dangerous-words... we tend to see some words like hungry lions...trying to kill our loved- words...why is it so difficult to just see all words as mere words only ...iietsa P: What you wrote above is very superficial. people don't fight over mere words, they defend their self image as you are doing below: " I am not under any spell... I am not " making the impression living on an common place island and producing 'wise' commonplaces without paying much attention to the remaining members here " ...its all in your mind... I am not " interesting of the smart stuff they are posting ? " ...iietsa " P: People fight over their possessions, and they think, they own their ideas and beliefs. They resent when they are shown that their beliefs have no value, that their self appointed role as teachers is just an empty pose. That you're not interested in what others say here was obvious before you admitted it above, people obsessed with their own image seldom are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2006 Report Share Posted July 19, 2006 Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie5 wrote: > > whats the purpose in fighting with words > he says this...she says that...fuss...fuss...fuss... > in the end what are we fighting for... > to win...to avoid loosing a battle with words ? > words are mere jada jada...we act like they are our masters... > we are sticking up for them like we must protect them from being > beaten...what are we...their slaves ? > mere idiots runing around this place identifying with one > word....resisting another...pretending to be wise and loving ? > while trying to help survive our favorite-words...by sometimes trying > to kill the apparent dangerous-words... > we tend to see some words like hungry lions...trying to kill our loved- > words...why is it so difficult to just see all words as mere words only > ...iietsa > > P: What you wrote above is very superficial. people don't fight over > mere words, they defend their self image as you are doing below: > > > " I am not under any spell... > I am not " making the impression living on an common place > island and producing 'wise' commonplaces without paying much > attention to the remaining members here " ...its all in your mind... > I am not " interesting of the smart stuff they are posting ? " > ...iietsa " > > P: People fight over their possessions, and they think, they own > their ideas and beliefs. They resent when they are shown that > their beliefs have no value, that their self appointed role as > teachers is just an empty pose. That you're not interested in > what others say here was obvious before you admitted it above, > people obsessed with their own image seldom are. Toombaru approaches Pete from the side.........while Pete is talking.......toombaru gently slides Pete's chair over to a blackboard upon which is written: " People are not obsessed with their own image.....They are nothing other then their own image " . Pete keeps talking.......toombaru gently takes Pete's head in his loving hands and turns it to the blackboard. Pete keeps talking.........Toombaru attempts to ever so gently cover Pete's mouth with duct tape. Pete tries to bite toombaru........ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2006 Report Share Posted July 19, 2006 Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie5 wrote: > > whats the purpose in fighting with words > he says this...she says that...fuss...fuss...fuss... > in the end what are we fighting for... > to win...to avoid loosing a battle with words ? > words are mere jada jada...we act like they are our masters... > we are sticking up for them like we must protect them from being > beaten...what are we...their slaves ? > mere idiots runing around this place identifying with one > word....resisting another...pretending to be wise and loving ? > while trying to help survive our favorite-words...by sometimes trying > to kill the apparent dangerous-words... > we tend to see some words like hungry lions...trying to kill our loved- > words...why is it so difficult to just see all words as mere words only > ...iietsa > > P: What you wrote above is very superficial. people don't fight over > mere words, they defend their self image as you are doing below: > > > " I am not under any spell... > I am not " making the impression living on an common place > island and producing 'wise' commonplaces without paying much > attention to the remaining members here " ...its all in your mind... > I am not " interesting of the smart stuff they are posting ? " > ...iietsa " > > P: People fight over their possessions, and they think, they own > their ideas and beliefs. They resent when they are shown that > their beliefs have no value, that their self appointed role as > teachers is just an empty pose. That you're not interested in > what others say here was obvious before you admitted it above, > people obsessed with their own image seldom are. > I dont know what you are trying to or prove here... all I can say that I am not in a boxer-ring... I am not trying to hit you ... and surely you are not in a possision to hit me... you can go around and collect old footprints anywhere (words)... and you collect nothing but shadows... you can say that I am obsessed with my own image... but that does not affect me at all...its all in your mind... I hear it...no reaction...that all... if you want to win a fight...you need to find yourself another fighter...I dont play that non-interesting game... ....iietsa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2006 Report Share Posted July 19, 2006 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie5@> wrote: > > > > whats the purpose in fighting with words > > he says this...she says that...fuss...fuss...fuss... > > in the end what are we fighting for... > > to win...to avoid loosing a battle with words ? > > words are mere jada jada...we act like they are our masters... > > we are sticking up for them like we must protect them from being > > beaten...what are we...their slaves ? > > mere idiots runing around this place identifying with one > > word....resisting another...pretending to be wise and loving ? > > while trying to help survive our favorite-words...by sometimes > trying > > to kill the apparent dangerous-words... > > we tend to see some words like hungry lions...trying to kill our > loved- > > words...why is it so difficult to just see all words as mere > words only > > ...iietsa > > > > P: What you wrote above is very superficial. people don't fight > over > > mere words, they defend their self image as you are doing below: > > > > > > " I am not under any spell... > > I am not " making the impression living on an common place > > island and producing 'wise' commonplaces without paying much > > attention to the remaining members here " ...its all in your > mind... > > I am not " interesting of the smart stuff they are posting ? " > > ...iietsa " > > > > P: People fight over their possessions, and they think, they own > > their ideas and beliefs. They resent when they are shown that > > their beliefs have no value, that their self appointed role as > > teachers is just an empty pose. That you're not interested in > > what others say here was obvious before you admitted it above, > > people obsessed with their own image seldom are. > > > I dont know what you are trying to or prove here... > all I can say that I am not in a boxer-ring... > I am not trying to hit you ... > and surely you are not in a possision to hit me... > you can go around and collect old footprints anywhere (words)... > and you collect nothing but shadows... > you can say that I am obsessed with my own image... > but that does not affect me at all...its all in your mind... > I hear it...no reaction...that all... > if you want to win a fight...you need to find yourself another > fighter...I dont play that non-interesting game... > > ...iietsa > There is no you to be in a position to play anything.....you are the playing...... I am tired of telling you this. Now go over to the corner with Pete until you can see this most simple of truths. And if Era keeps it up....there are going to be three of you sitting there pretty soon! toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2006 Report Share Posted July 19, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie5@> wrote: > > > > whats the purpose in fighting with words > > he says this...she says that...fuss...fuss...fuss... > > in the end what are we fighting for... > > to win...to avoid loosing a battle with words ? > > words are mere jada jada...we act like they are our masters... > > we are sticking up for them like we must protect them from being > > beaten...what are we...their slaves ? > > mere idiots runing around this place identifying with one > > word....resisting another...pretending to be wise and loving ? > > while trying to help survive our favorite-words...by sometimes trying > > to kill the apparent dangerous-words... > > we tend to see some words like hungry lions...trying to kill our > loved- > > words...why is it so difficult to just see all words as mere words > only > > ...iietsa > > > > P: What you wrote above is very superficial. people don't fight over > > mere words, they defend their self image as you are doing below: > > > > > > " I am not under any spell... > > I am not " making the impression living on an common place > > island and producing 'wise' commonplaces without paying much > > attention to the remaining members here " ...its all in your mind... > > I am not " interesting of the smart stuff they are posting ? " > > ...iietsa " > > > > P: People fight over their possessions, and they think, they own > > their ideas and beliefs. They resent when they are shown that > > their beliefs have no value, that their self appointed role as > > teachers is just an empty pose. That you're not interested in > > what others say here was obvious before you admitted it above, > > people obsessed with their own image seldom are. > > > > > Toombaru approaches Pete from the side.........while Pete is > talking.......toombaru gently slides Pete's chair over to a blackboard > upon which is written: > > " People are not obsessed with their own image.....They are nothing > other then their own image " . > > > Pete keeps talking.......toombaru gently takes Pete's head in his > loving hands and turns it to the blackboard. > > Pete keeps talking.........Toombaru attempts to ever so gently cover > Pete's mouth with duct tape. > > Pete tries to bite toombaru........ > > there is nothing wrong...no need to try to fix anything... be the seeing and you will find out for yourself... ....iietsa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2006 Report Share Posted July 19, 2006 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie5@> wrote: > > > > > > whats the purpose in fighting with words > > > he says this...she says that...fuss...fuss...fuss... > > > in the end what are we fighting for... > > > to win...to avoid loosing a battle with words ? > > > words are mere jada jada...we act like they are our masters... > > > we are sticking up for them like we must protect them from > being > > > beaten...what are we...their slaves ? > > > mere idiots runing around this place identifying with one > > > word....resisting another...pretending to be wise and loving ? > > > while trying to help survive our favorite-words...by sometimes > trying > > > to kill the apparent dangerous-words... > > > we tend to see some words like hungry lions...trying to kill > our > > loved- > > > words...why is it so difficult to just see all words as mere > words > > only > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > P: What you wrote above is very superficial. people don't fight > over > > > mere words, they defend their self image as you are doing > below: > > > > > > > > > " I am not under any spell... > > > I am not " making the impression living on an common place > > > island and producing 'wise' commonplaces without paying much > > > attention to the remaining members here " ...its all in your > mind... > > > I am not " interesting of the smart stuff they are posting ? " > > > ...iietsa " > > > > > > P: People fight over their possessions, and they think, they own > > > their ideas and beliefs. They resent when they are shown that > > > their beliefs have no value, that their self appointed role as > > > teachers is just an empty pose. That you're not interested in > > > what others say here was obvious before you admitted it above, > > > people obsessed with their own image seldom are. > > > > > > > > > > Toombaru approaches Pete from the side.........while Pete is > > talking.......toombaru gently slides Pete's chair over to a > blackboard > > upon which is written: > > > > " People are not obsessed with their own image.....They are nothing > > other then their own image " . > > > > > > Pete keeps talking.......toombaru gently takes Pete's head in his > > loving hands and turns it to the blackboard. > > > > Pete keeps talking.........Toombaru attempts to ever so gently > cover > > Pete's mouth with duct tape. > > > > Pete tries to bite toombaru........ > > > > > there is nothing wrong...no need to try to fix anything... > be the seeing and you will find out for yourself... > ...iietsa > No......you won't. When you finaly 'find out' there is no you left to know. That's a pisser........ain't it? toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2006 Report Share Posted July 19, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie5@> wrote: > > > > > > whats the purpose in fighting with words > > > he says this...she says that...fuss...fuss...fuss... > > > in the end what are we fighting for... > > > to win...to avoid loosing a battle with words ? > > > words are mere jada jada...we act like they are our masters... > > > we are sticking up for them like we must protect them from being > > > beaten...what are we...their slaves ? > > > mere idiots runing around this place identifying with one > > > word....resisting another...pretending to be wise and loving ? > > > while trying to help survive our favorite-words...by sometimes > > trying > > > to kill the apparent dangerous-words... > > > we tend to see some words like hungry lions...trying to kill our > > loved- > > > words...why is it so difficult to just see all words as mere > > words only > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > P: What you wrote above is very superficial. people don't fight > > over > > > mere words, they defend their self image as you are doing below: > > > > > > > > > " I am not under any spell... > > > I am not " making the impression living on an common place > > > island and producing 'wise' commonplaces without paying much > > > attention to the remaining members here " ...its all in your > > mind... > > > I am not " interesting of the smart stuff they are posting ? " > > > ...iietsa " > > > > > > P: People fight over their possessions, and they think, they own > > > their ideas and beliefs. They resent when they are shown that > > > their beliefs have no value, that their self appointed role as > > > teachers is just an empty pose. That you're not interested in > > > what others say here was obvious before you admitted it above, > > > people obsessed with their own image seldom are. > > > > > I dont know what you are trying to or prove here... > > all I can say that I am not in a boxer-ring... > > I am not trying to hit you ... > > and surely you are not in a possision to hit me... > > you can go around and collect old footprints anywhere (words)... > > and you collect nothing but shadows... > > you can say that I am obsessed with my own image... > > but that does not affect me at all...its all in your mind... > > I hear it...no reaction...that all... > > if you want to win a fight...you need to find yourself another > > fighter...I dont play that non-interesting game... > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > There is no you to be in a position to play anything.....you are the > playing...... > > > I am tired of telling you this. > > Now go over to the corner with Pete until you can see this most simple > of truths. > > > And if Era keeps it up....there are going to be three of you sitting > there pretty soon! > > > > > toombaru > I am not tired... I have never been tired... and I am not in a possition to become tired...... I cant go over to any corner... I am not moving...its the mind that is in movement... ....iietsa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2006 Report Share Posted July 19, 2006 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie5@> wrote: > > > > > > > > whats the purpose in fighting with words > > > > he says this...she says that...fuss...fuss...fuss... > > > > in the end what are we fighting for... > > > > to win...to avoid loosing a battle with words ? > > > > words are mere jada jada...we act like they are our > masters... > > > > we are sticking up for them like we must protect them from > being > > > > beaten...what are we...their slaves ? > > > > mere idiots runing around this place identifying with one > > > > word....resisting another...pretending to be wise and > loving ? > > > > while trying to help survive our favorite-words...by > sometimes > > > trying > > > > to kill the apparent dangerous-words... > > > > we tend to see some words like hungry lions...trying to kill > our > > > loved- > > > > words...why is it so difficult to just see all words as mere > > > words only > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > P: What you wrote above is very superficial. people don't > fight > > > over > > > > mere words, they defend their self image as you are doing > below: > > > > > > > > > > > > " I am not under any spell... > > > > I am not " making the impression living on an common place > > > > island and producing 'wise' commonplaces without paying much > > > > attention to the remaining members here " ...its all in your > > > mind... > > > > I am not " interesting of the smart stuff they are posting ? " > > > > ...iietsa " > > > > > > > > P: People fight over their possessions, and they think, they > own > > > > their ideas and beliefs. They resent when they are shown that > > > > their beliefs have no value, that their self appointed role as > > > > teachers is just an empty pose. That you're not interested in > > > > what others say here was obvious before you admitted it above, > > > > people obsessed with their own image seldom are. > > > > > > > I dont know what you are trying to or prove here... > > > all I can say that I am not in a boxer-ring... > > > I am not trying to hit you ... > > > and surely you are not in a possision to hit me... > > > you can go around and collect old footprints anywhere (words)... > > > and you collect nothing but shadows... > > > you can say that I am obsessed with my own image... > > > but that does not affect me at all...its all in your mind... > > > I hear it...no reaction...that all... > > > if you want to win a fight...you need to find yourself another > > > fighter...I dont play that non-interesting game... > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > There is no you to be in a position to play anything.....you are > the > > playing...... > > > > > > I am tired of telling you this. > > > > Now go over to the corner with Pete until you can see this most > simple > > of truths. > > > > > > And if Era keeps it up....there are going to be three of you > sitting > > there pretty soon! > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > I am not tired... > I have never been tired... > and I am not in a possition to become tired...... > I cant go over to any corner... > I am not moving...its the mind that is in movement... > ...iietsa > Where do you get this stuff? toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2006 Report Share Posted July 19, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie5@> wrote: > > > > > > > > whats the purpose in fighting with words > > > > he says this...she says that...fuss...fuss...fuss... > > > > in the end what are we fighting for... > > > > to win...to avoid loosing a battle with words ? > > > > words are mere jada jada...we act like they are our masters... > > > > we are sticking up for them like we must protect them from > > being > > > > beaten...what are we...their slaves ? > > > > mere idiots runing around this place identifying with one > > > > word....resisting another...pretending to be wise and loving ? > > > > while trying to help survive our favorite-words...by sometimes > > trying > > > > to kill the apparent dangerous-words... > > > > we tend to see some words like hungry lions...trying to kill > > our > > > loved- > > > > words...why is it so difficult to just see all words as mere > > words > > > only > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > P: What you wrote above is very superficial. people don't fight > > over > > > > mere words, they defend their self image as you are doing > > below: > > > > > > > > > > > > " I am not under any spell... > > > > I am not " making the impression living on an common place > > > > island and producing 'wise' commonplaces without paying much > > > > attention to the remaining members here " ...its all in your > > mind... > > > > I am not " interesting of the smart stuff they are posting ? " > > > > ...iietsa " > > > > > > > > P: People fight over their possessions, and they think, they own > > > > their ideas and beliefs. They resent when they are shown that > > > > their beliefs have no value, that their self appointed role as > > > > teachers is just an empty pose. That you're not interested in > > > > what others say here was obvious before you admitted it above, > > > > people obsessed with their own image seldom are. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Toombaru approaches Pete from the side.........while Pete is > > > talking.......toombaru gently slides Pete's chair over to a > > blackboard > > > upon which is written: > > > > > > " People are not obsessed with their own image.....They are nothing > > > other then their own image " . > > > > > > > > > Pete keeps talking.......toombaru gently takes Pete's head in his > > > loving hands and turns it to the blackboard. > > > > > > Pete keeps talking.........Toombaru attempts to ever so gently > > cover > > > Pete's mouth with duct tape. > > > > > > Pete tries to bite toombaru........ > > > > > > > > there is nothing wrong...no need to try to fix anything... > > be the seeing and you will find out for yourself... > > ...iietsa > > > > > > No......you won't. > > > When you finaly 'find out' there is no you left to know. > > > > That's a pisser........ain't it? > > > > toombaru > knowingly being your natural nature is the power behind all... the one...it knows itself by itself... ....iietsa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2006 Report Share Posted July 19, 2006 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie5@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > whats the purpose in fighting with words > > > > > he says this...she says that...fuss...fuss...fuss... > > > > > in the end what are we fighting for... > > > > > to win...to avoid loosing a battle with words ? > > > > > words are mere jada jada...we act like they are our > masters... > > > > > we are sticking up for them like we must protect them from > > > being > > > > > beaten...what are we...their slaves ? > > > > > mere idiots runing around this place identifying with one > > > > > word....resisting another...pretending to be wise and > loving ? > > > > > while trying to help survive our favorite-words...by > sometimes > > > trying > > > > > to kill the apparent dangerous-words... > > > > > we tend to see some words like hungry lions...trying to > kill > > > our > > > > loved- > > > > > words...why is it so difficult to just see all words as > mere > > > words > > > > only > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > P: What you wrote above is very superficial. people don't > fight > > > over > > > > > mere words, they defend their self image as you are doing > > > below: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " I am not under any spell... > > > > > I am not " making the impression living on an common place > > > > > island and producing 'wise' commonplaces without paying > much > > > > > attention to the remaining members here " ...its all in your > > > mind... > > > > > I am not " interesting of the smart stuff they are > posting ? " > > > > > ...iietsa " > > > > > > > > > > P: People fight over their possessions, and they think, they > own > > > > > their ideas and beliefs. They resent when they are shown that > > > > > their beliefs have no value, that their self appointed role > as > > > > > teachers is just an empty pose. That you're not interested in > > > > > what others say here was obvious before you admitted it > above, > > > > > people obsessed with their own image seldom are. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Toombaru approaches Pete from the side.........while Pete is > > > > talking.......toombaru gently slides Pete's chair over to a > > > blackboard > > > > upon which is written: > > > > > > > > " People are not obsessed with their own image.....They are > nothing > > > > other then their own image " . > > > > > > > > > > > > Pete keeps talking.......toombaru gently takes Pete's head in > his > > > > loving hands and turns it to the blackboard. > > > > > > > > Pete keeps talking.........Toombaru attempts to ever so gently > > > cover > > > > Pete's mouth with duct tape. > > > > > > > > Pete tries to bite toombaru........ > > > > > > > > > > > there is nothing wrong...no need to try to fix anything... > > > be the seeing and you will find out for yourself... > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > No......you won't. > > > > > > When you finaly 'find out' there is no you left to know. > > > > > > > > That's a pisser........ain't it? > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > knowingly being your natural nature is the power behind all... > the one...it knows itself by itself... > ...iietsa > Where do you get this stuff? All of that's make believe. It's time to get naked. ..........and stand out here in the sun........knowin nuthin. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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