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Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie5 wrote:

>

> whats the purpose in fighting with words

> he says this...she says that...fuss...fuss...fuss...

> in the end what are we fighting for...

> to win...to avoid loosing a battle with words ?

> words are mere jada jada...we act like they are our masters...

> we are sticking up for them like we must protect them from being

> beaten...what are we...their slaves ?

> mere idiots runing around this place identifying with one

> word....resisting another...pretending to be wise and loving ?

> while trying to help survive our favorite-words...by sometimes

trying

> to kill the apparent dangerous-words...

> we tend to see some words like hungry lions...trying to kill our

loved-

> words...why is it so difficult to just see all words as mere

words only

> ...iietsa

>

> P: What you wrote above is very superficial. people don't fight over

> mere words, they defend their self image as you are doing below:

>

>

> " I am not under any spell...

> I am not " making the impression living on an common place

> island and producing 'wise' commonplaces without paying much

> attention to the remaining members here " ...its all in your mind...

> I am not " interesting of the smart stuff they are posting ? "

> ...iietsa "

>

> P: People fight over their possessions, and they think, they own

> their ideas and beliefs. They resent when they are shown that

> their beliefs have no value, that their self appointed role as

> teachers is just an empty pose. That you're not interested in

> what others say here was obvious before you admitted it above,

> people obsessed with their own image seldom are.

 

 

oh HO HO Ho!....ahem.. ho ho ho!........excuse me

hehehehehe!.......are you trying to teach somebody something?

hahahaha!!!!!!! I know you aren't bothered by this, as you are not of

course obsessed by you self image and don't care if your ideas and

beliefs are valueless...that's the big thing about you

Pete.......something I admire.....almost as much as I admire how much

you love me and my postings.......what a card....good stuff here

guy.keep 'em coming for the entertainment of our gang here.....we all

wait on pins and needles for more of the fun. Really....good take on

things here.

 

your pal,

 

...........bobby

 

 

>

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> I am not tired...

> I have never been tired...

> and I am not in a possition to become tired......

> I cant go over to any corner...

> I am not moving...its the mind that is in movement...

> ...iietsa

>

 

 

 

 

Where do you get this stuff?

 

P: Mystic comic books like Spider Guru, or

Tarsan the Ape-guro. Does he the try to send

you his post privately? He was doing that to

me, until I put him on my spam blocker list.

Then, he tries to tell us, he doesn't consider

his words important. Ha, ha!

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain

wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie5@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > whats the purpose in fighting with words

> > > > > he says this...she says that...fuss...fuss...fuss...

> > > > > in the end what are we fighting for...

> > > > > to win...to avoid loosing a battle with words ?

> > > > > words are mere jada jada...we act like they are our

> > masters...

> > > > > we are sticking up for them like we must protect them

from

> > being

> > > > > beaten...what are we...their slaves ?

> > > > > mere idiots runing around this place identifying with one

> > > > > word....resisting another...pretending to be wise and

> > loving ?

> > > > > while trying to help survive our favorite-words...by

> > sometimes

> > > > trying

> > > > > to kill the apparent dangerous-words...

> > > > > we tend to see some words like hungry lions...trying to

kill

> > our

> > > > loved-

> > > > > words...why is it so difficult to just see all words as

mere

> > > > words only

> > > > > ...iietsa

> > > > >

> > > > > P: What you wrote above is very superficial. people don't

> > fight

> > > > over

> > > > > mere words, they defend their self image as you are

doing

> > below:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > " I am not under any spell...

> > > > > I am not " making the impression living on an common place

> > > > > island and producing 'wise' commonplaces without paying

much

> > > > > attention to the remaining members here " ...its all in

your

> > > > mind...

> > > > > I am not " interesting of the smart stuff they are

posting ? "

> > > > > ...iietsa "

> > > > >

> > > > > P: People fight over their possessions, and they think,

they

> > own

> > > > > their ideas and beliefs. They resent when they are shown

that

> > > > > their beliefs have no value, that their self appointed

role as

> > > > > teachers is just an empty pose. That you're not interested

in

> > > > > what others say here was obvious before you admitted it

above,

> > > > > people obsessed with their own image seldom are.

> > > > >

> > > > I dont know what you are trying to or prove here...

> > > > all I can say that I am not in a boxer-ring...

> > > > I am not trying to hit you ...

> > > > and surely you are not in a possision to hit me...

> > > > you can go around and collect old footprints anywhere

(words)...

> > > > and you collect nothing but shadows...

> > > > you can say that I am obsessed with my own image...

> > > > but that does not affect me at all...its all in your mind...

> > > > I hear it...no reaction...that all...

> > > > if you want to win a fight...you need to find yourself

another

> > > > fighter...I dont play that non-interesting game...

> > > > :)

> > > > ...iietsa

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > There is no you to be in a position to play anything.....you

are

> > the

> > > playing......

> > >

> > >

> > > I am tired of telling you this.

> > >

> > > Now go over to the corner with Pete until you can see this

most

> > simple

> > > of truths.

> > >

> > >

> > > And if Era keeps it up....there are going to be three of you

> > sitting

> > > there pretty soon!

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > toombaru

> > >

> > I am not tired...

> > I have never been tired...

> > and I am not in a possition to become tired......

> > I cant go over to any corner...

> > I am not moving...its the mind that is in movement...

> > ...iietsa

> >

>

>

>

>

> Where do you get this stuff?

>

>

>

> toombaru

>

the stuff is there by itself...

the body...the mind...the skies and the waters...

just like the earth is in the universe by itself...

the universe is in me by itself...

....iietsa

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Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain

wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 "

<lastrain@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie5@>

wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > whats the purpose in fighting with words

> > > > > > he says this...she says that...fuss...fuss...fuss...

> > > > > > in the end what are we fighting for...

> > > > > > to win...to avoid loosing a battle with words ?

> > > > > > words are mere jada jada...we act like they are our

> > masters...

> > > > > > we are sticking up for them like we must protect them

from

> > > > being

> > > > > > beaten...what are we...their slaves ?

> > > > > > mere idiots runing around this place identifying with

one

> > > > > > word....resisting another...pretending to be wise and

> > loving ?

> > > > > > while trying to help survive our favorite-words...by

> > sometimes

> > > > trying

> > > > > > to kill the apparent dangerous-words...

> > > > > > we tend to see some words like hungry lions...trying

to

> > kill

> > > > our

> > > > > loved-

> > > > > > words...why is it so difficult to just see all words

as

> > mere

> > > > words

> > > > > only

> > > > > > ...iietsa

> > > > > >

> > > > > > P: What you wrote above is very superficial. people

don't

> > fight

> > > > over

> > > > > > mere words, they defend their self image as you are

doing

> > > > below:

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > " I am not under any spell...

> > > > > > I am not " making the impression living on an common

place

> > > > > > island and producing 'wise' commonplaces without

paying

> > much

> > > > > > attention to the remaining members here " ...its all in

your

> > > > mind...

> > > > > > I am not " interesting of the smart stuff they are

> > posting ? "

> > > > > > ...iietsa "

> > > > > >

> > > > > > P: People fight over their possessions, and they think,

they

> > own

> > > > > > their ideas and beliefs. They resent when they are shown

that

> > > > > > their beliefs have no value, that their self appointed

role

> > as

> > > > > > teachers is just an empty pose. That you're not

interested in

> > > > > > what others say here was obvious before you admitted it

> > above,

> > > > > > people obsessed with their own image seldom are.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Toombaru approaches Pete from the side.........while Pete

is

> > > > > talking.......toombaru gently slides Pete's chair over to

a

> > > > blackboard

> > > > > upon which is written:

> > > > >

> > > > > " People are not obsessed with their own image.....They are

> > nothing

> > > > > other then their own image " .

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Pete keeps talking.......toombaru gently takes Pete's head

in

> > his

> > > > > loving hands and turns it to the blackboard.

> > > > >

> > > > > Pete keeps talking.........Toombaru attempts to ever so

gently

> > > > cover

> > > > > Pete's mouth with duct tape.

> > > > >

> > > > > Pete tries to bite toombaru........

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > there is nothing wrong...no need to try to fix anything...

> > > > be the seeing and you will find out for yourself...

> > > > ...iietsa

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > No......you won't.

> > >

> > >

> > > When you finaly 'find out' there is no you left to know.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > That's a pisser........ain't it?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > toombaru

> > >

> > knowingly being your natural nature is the power behind all...

> > the one...it knows itself by itself...

> > ...iietsa

> >

>

>

> Where do you get this stuff?

>

>

> All of that's make believe.

>

>

> It's time to get naked.

>

>

> .........and stand out here in the sun........knowin nuthin.

>

>

>

>

> toombaru

>

if its time to get naked...and standing naked in the sun does it for

you....then congratulations...

....I see nothing wrong with that...

....iietsa

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Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie5 wrote:

>

> > I am not tired...

> > I have never been tired...

> > and I am not in a possition to become tired......

> > I cant go over to any corner...

> > I am not moving...its the mind that is in movement...

> > ...iietsa

> >

>

>

>

>

> Where do you get this stuff?

>

> P: Mystic comic books like Spider Guru, or

> Tarsan the Ape-guro. Does he the try to send

> you his post privately? He was doing that to

> me, until I put him on my spam blocker list.

> Then, he tries to tell us, he doesn't consider

> his words important. Ha, ha!

>

to me spider-guru and tarsan the ape-guro is the same one...

and he sends the post to this list alright...

openness by nature has no spam blocker...

maby its becase of this spam blocker you seem to divide some words

more important...

 

....iietsa

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Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote:

 

> Where do you get this stuff?

>

>

> All of that's make believe.

>

>

> It's time to get naked.

>

>

> .........and stand out here in the sun........knowin nuthin.

>

>

>

>

> toombaru

 

that's not the sun ...

 

.... it's the radiation from an atomic bomb blast ...

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Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie5@> wrote:

> >

> > whats the purpose in fighting with words

> > he says this...she says that...fuss...fuss...fuss...

> > in the end what are we fighting for...

> > to win...to avoid loosing a battle with words ?

> > words are mere jada jada...we act like they are our masters...

> > we are sticking up for them like we must protect them from being

> > beaten...what are we...their slaves ?

> > mere idiots runing around this place identifying with one

> > word....resisting another...pretending to be wise and loving ?

> > while trying to help survive our favorite-words...by sometimes

trying

> > to kill the apparent dangerous-words...

> > we tend to see some words like hungry lions...trying to kill our

> loved-

> > words...why is it so difficult to just see all words as mere words

> only

> > ...iietsa

> >

> > P: What you wrote above is very superficial. people don't fight over

> > mere words, they defend their self image as you are doing below:

> >

> >

> > " I am not under any spell...

> > I am not " making the impression living on an common place

> > island and producing 'wise' commonplaces without paying much

> > attention to the remaining members here " ...its all in your mind...

> > I am not " interesting of the smart stuff they are posting ? "

> > ...iietsa "

> >

> > P: People fight over their possessions, and they think, they own

> > their ideas and beliefs. They resent when they are shown that

> > their beliefs have no value, that their self appointed role as

> > teachers is just an empty pose. That you're not interested in

> > what others say here was obvious before you admitted it above,

> > people obsessed with their own image seldom are.

>

>

>

>

> Toombaru approaches Pete from the side.........while Pete is

> talking.......toombaru gently slides Pete's chair over to a blackboard

> upon which is written:

>

> " People are not obsessed with their own image.....They are nothing

> other then their own image " .

>

>

> Pete keeps talking.......toombaru gently takes Pete's head in his

> loving hands and turns it to the blackboard.

>

> Pete keeps talking.........Toombaru attempts to ever so gently cover

> Pete's mouth with duct tape.

>

> Pete tries to bite toombaru........

>

Toombaru's image looks too much like that of a leader/teacher/guru,

while Pete is certain that it is he whose image looks most like that

of a leader/teacher/guru -- while both claim there is no such

leader/teacher/guru. Hence, they both fail to see each other's image,

just their own.

 

While mine remains invisible, even to me. (Till I too, am repeatedly

denied.)

 

~*~

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Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie5@> wrote:

> > >

> > > whats the purpose in fighting with words

> > > he says this...she says that...fuss...fuss...fuss...

> > > in the end what are we fighting for...

> > > to win...to avoid loosing a battle with words ?

> > > words are mere jada jada...we act like they are our masters...

> > > we are sticking up for them like we must protect them from being

> > > beaten...what are we...their slaves ?

> > > mere idiots runing around this place identifying with one

> > > word....resisting another...pretending to be wise and loving ?

> > > while trying to help survive our favorite-words...by sometimes

> trying

> > > to kill the apparent dangerous-words...

> > > we tend to see some words like hungry lions...trying to kill our

> > loved-

> > > words...why is it so difficult to just see all words as mere words

> > only

> > > ...iietsa

> > >

> > > P: What you wrote above is very superficial. people don't fight over

> > > mere words, they defend their self image as you are doing below:

> > >

> > >

> > > " I am not under any spell...

> > > I am not " making the impression living on an common place

> > > island and producing 'wise' commonplaces without paying much

> > > attention to the remaining members here " ...its all in your mind...

> > > I am not " interesting of the smart stuff they are posting ? "

> > > ...iietsa "

> > >

> > > P: People fight over their possessions, and they think, they own

> > > their ideas and beliefs. They resent when they are shown that

> > > their beliefs have no value, that their self appointed role as

> > > teachers is just an empty pose. That you're not interested in

> > > what others say here was obvious before you admitted it above,

> > > people obsessed with their own image seldom are.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Toombaru approaches Pete from the side.........while Pete is

> > talking.......toombaru gently slides Pete's chair over to a blackboard

> > upon which is written:

> >

> > " People are not obsessed with their own image.....They are nothing

> > other then their own image " .

> >

> >

> > Pete keeps talking.......toombaru gently takes Pete's head in his

> > loving hands and turns it to the blackboard.

> >

> > Pete keeps talking.........Toombaru attempts to ever so gently cover

> > Pete's mouth with duct tape.

> >

> > Pete tries to bite toombaru........

> >

> Toombaru's image looks too much like that of a leader/teacher/guru,

> while Pete is certain that it is he whose image looks most like that

> of a leader/teacher/guru -- while both claim there is no such

> leader/teacher/guru. Hence, they both fail to see each other's image,

> just their own.

>

> While mine remains invisible, even to me. (Till I too, am repeatedly

> denied.)

>

> ~*~

>

 

 

 

Toombaru lifts Bob softly in his loving arms and sets him ever so

lightly in the corner where two mirror oppose each other.

 

Bob stares with rapt attention....kinda like a chicken does when you

put its bill on a string.

 

 

Toombaru smiles....and leaves the room.

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Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain

wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie5@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > whats the purpose in fighting with words

> > > > he says this...she says that...fuss...fuss...fuss...

> > > > in the end what are we fighting for...

> > > > to win...to avoid loosing a battle with words ?

> > > > words are mere jada jada...we act like they are our

masters...

> > > > we are sticking up for them like we must protect them from

being

> > > > beaten...what are we...their slaves ?

> > > > mere idiots runing around this place identifying with one

> > > > word....resisting another...pretending to be wise and

loving ?

> > > > while trying to help survive our favorite-words...by

sometimes

> > trying

> > > > to kill the apparent dangerous-words...

> > > > we tend to see some words like hungry lions...trying to

kill our

> > > loved-

> > > > words...why is it so difficult to just see all words as

mere words

> > > only

> > > > ...iietsa

> > > >

> > > > P: What you wrote above is very superficial. people don't

fight over

> > > > mere words, they defend their self image as you are doing

below:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > " I am not under any spell...

> > > > I am not " making the impression living on an common place

> > > > island and producing 'wise' commonplaces without paying much

> > > > attention to the remaining members here " ...its all in your

mind...

> > > > I am not " interesting of the smart stuff they are posting ? "

> > > > ...iietsa "

> > > >

> > > > P: People fight over their possessions, and they think, they

own

> > > > their ideas and beliefs. They resent when they are shown that

> > > > their beliefs have no value, that their self appointed role as

> > > > teachers is just an empty pose. That you're not interested in

> > > > what others say here was obvious before you admitted it

above,

> > > > people obsessed with their own image seldom are.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Toombaru approaches Pete from the side.........while Pete is

> > > talking.......toombaru gently slides Pete's chair over to a

blackboard

> > > upon which is written:

> > >

> > > " People are not obsessed with their own image.....They are

nothing

> > > other then their own image " .

> > >

> > >

> > > Pete keeps talking.......toombaru gently takes Pete's head in

his

> > > loving hands and turns it to the blackboard.

> > >

> > > Pete keeps talking.........Toombaru attempts to ever so gently

cover

> > > Pete's mouth with duct tape.

> > >

> > > Pete tries to bite toombaru........

> > >

> > Toombaru's image looks too much like that of a

leader/teacher/guru,

> > while Pete is certain that it is he whose image looks most like

that

> > of a leader/teacher/guru -- while both claim there is no such

> > leader/teacher/guru. Hence, they both fail to see each other's

image,

> > just their own.

> >

> > While mine remains invisible, even to me. (Till I too, am

repeatedly

> > denied.)

> >

> > ~*~

> >

>

>

>

> Toombaru lifts Bob softly in his loving arms and sets him ever so

> lightly in the corner where two mirror oppose each other.

>

> Bob stares with rapt attention....kinda like a chicken does when you

> put its bill on a string.

>

>

> Toombaru smiles....and leaves the room.

 

 

ROFLMAO.....what in the hell are you talkin' 'bout toombaru....how

did bob get in this messin' in the pants classroom of your

imagination?

 

....bob

(smiling as he watches t. rubbing his chin trying to figure out some

silly, but trying to be wise, answer regarding some connection

herein).....but bob is tickled by your cuddling him....he is a

handsome duffer ain't he fella! Say there!.....is that a ring in yer

nose big fella?

(bn)

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