Guest guest Posted July 19, 2006 Report Share Posted July 19, 2006 Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia <gdtige wrote: > > > --- dan330033 <dan330033 a écrit : > > > Nisargadatta , OConnor > > Patricia <gdtige@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey Anna -- > > > > > > > > > > > > There isn't any " after enlightenment " -- > > > > > > > > > > > > except as an idea to make people feel > > special > > > > about themselves. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Dan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well danny boy, two things: yes, you are > > right > > > > and yes, you are > > > > > wrong. > > > > > > > > > > so be it. > > > > > > > > > > ;-) > > > > > > > > Right and wrong isn't what this is about Ana. > > > > > > > > Nor is there any specialness available. > > > > > > > > Clearly, dropping self-constructed illusions and > > > > deceptions isn't > > > > going to be attractive. > > > > > > > > There's nothing in it for " me. " > > > > > > > > No wonderful feelings, no spiritual experiences, > > no > > > > great insights. > > > > > > > > Just releasing, in and of itself. > > > > > > > > -- Dan > > > > > > if there wasn`t wonder in releasing, would there > > be a > > > let go of Dan??? > > > Or maybe wonder isn`t the right word, but since > > there > > > are no right words.... > > > > > > Patricia > > > > from my perspective, the release is automatic, > > simply when it is time. > > > > when " holding " is, literally, impossible. > > > > as long as " holding " seems possible to continue, the > > attempt continues. > > > > I can't release, in order to get a result, like > > wonder, love, or awe. > > > > That is because " I " am what is released, and there > > is nothing in it > > for " me. " > > > > -- Dan > > good, i like that. > Still, is it taboo to talk about a process involving > time, > about a situation (self-created) that is so unbearable > that one let go? > About a death that has a begining and yet no end? > > Patricia the process involving time is experiencing. experiences come and go. it may seem as if this process refers to something outside of itself, but it doesn't. in the process of time, a being changes its situation, because the experiencing changes in quality. so anything that begins, ends. and in endings are beginnings. what has no birth, has no death. the being in time can't know what is not of time. it can only know what is experienced between birth and death. including when it died to a previous unbearable experience, and something new began. but that too will end, because it began. here is a paradox: it can't be known and has no existence as a being, as it isn't occurring in a space between birth and death. it includes all the experiencing, all the knowings, all the beings, all their traumas, endings of traumas, deaths and births. -- Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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