RE : I haven't been following this but...\the beauty of awkwardness

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--- pliantheart <pliantheart a écrit :

 

> Nisargadatta , " dan330033 "

> <dan330033 wrote:

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> > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart "

> <pliantheart@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > <snip>

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> > > > > >

> > > > > > That has not been the experience here.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Tears come frequently........quite often

> while in

> > > > > > conversation......tears will well up.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > They seem to be stimulated by a

> rememberence of a pristine

> > > > > > comfort-zone......a

> primal....garden.....my first home.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Tears blur the edges.......the eyes

> looking back...become my

> > > > > > own....and I am swept away...over the orb.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Tears begin to flow ....as these words

> appear......and I

> > > remember once

> > > > > > again who I am.

> > > > >

> > > > > That is beautiful...

> > > > >

> > > > > I am especially struck by the " I remember

> once again who I am "

> > > > > and the " swept away over the orb " .

> > > > >

> > > > > Sometimes I will " choke up " when I see

> something especially

> > > > > beautiful. And those for whom that does not

> happen I feel

> > > > > something precious in life is still missing.

> > > > >

> > > > > The American culture has roots of

> judgementalism about a man

> > > > > crying, though perhaps that is changing. I

> don't know about

> > > > > other countries.

> > > > >

> > > > > In my view a man that can cry is more

> mature, and stronger,

> > > > > than a man that cannot. If a man simply

> *never* cries then

> > > > > he has been wounded in a very deep way, in

> my view. It is a

> > > > > kind of barrenness.

> > > > >

> > > > > Bill

> > > >

> > > > What about when there is no image at all to

> fit?

> > > >

> > > > What is it when " crying " or " not crying "

> aren't criteria for

> judgment

> > > > - either way?

> > > >

> > > > -- Dan

> > > >

> > >

> > > good point...

> > >

> > > but there is no such thing as steady-state

> perfection.

> > >

> > > Jobn Brockman talked about the beauty of

> awkwardness...

> > >

> > > there is no right or wrong entails judgement as

> a

> > > possibility, and criteria as having their place.

> > >

> > > stuff just happens, and whatever " we " there may

> appear

> > > to be will be stirred into it.

> > >

> > > patterns flowing in and out, all around, make it

> all

> > > seem real (perhaps)... but then....

> > >

> > > the page is turned

> > >

> > > and whatever that was, just isn't any more...

> > >

> > > it is this acceptance of imperfection and the

> > > endlessness of transition, rather than the

> nailing

> > > of the pristine, unpolluted real...

> > >

> > >

> > > Bill

> >

> > " steady state perfection " is a criterion.

> >

> > no criteria attach ---

> >

> > (not the idea " no criteria attach " -- just " no

> criteria attach " )

> >

>

> LOL!

>

> that's the trick...

> learning to write words that dissolve themselves.

>

> the words I just wrote

> *were* what I wrote...

> are no more

>

> what you are reading

> *is* no more...

>

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my my...you were so witty..... back then!!

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