Guest guest Posted July 19, 2006 Report Share Posted July 19, 2006 --- dan330033 <dan330033 a écrit : > Nisargadatta , OConnor > Patricia <gdtige wrote: > > > > > > --- dan330033 <dan330033 a écrit : > > > > > Nisargadatta , OConnor > > > Patricia <gdtige@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey Anna -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There isn't any " after enlightenment " -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > except as an idea to make people feel > > > special > > > > > about themselves. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Dan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well danny boy, two things: yes, you are > > > right > > > > > and yes, you are > > > > > > wrong. > > > > > > > > > > > > so be it. > > > > > > > > > > > > ;-) > > > > > > > > > > Right and wrong isn't what this is about > Ana. > > > > > > > > > > Nor is there any specialness available. > > > > > > > > > > Clearly, dropping self-constructed illusions > and > > > > > deceptions isn't > > > > > going to be attractive. > > > > > > > > > > There's nothing in it for " me. " > > > > > > > > > > No wonderful feelings, no spiritual > experiences, > > > no > > > > > great insights. > > > > > > > > > > Just releasing, in and of itself. > > > > > > > > > > -- Dan > > > > > > > > if there wasn`t wonder in releasing, would > there > > > be a > > > > let go of Dan??? > > > > Or maybe wonder isn`t the right word, but > since > > > there > > > > are no right words.... > > > > > > > > Patricia > > > > > > from my perspective, the release is automatic, > > > simply when it is time. > > > > > > when " holding " is, literally, impossible. > > > > > > as long as " holding " seems possible to continue, > the > > > attempt continues. > > > > > > I can't release, in order to get a result, like > > > wonder, love, or awe. > > > > > > That is because " I " am what is released, and > there > > > is nothing in it > > > for " me. " > > > > > > -- Dan > > > > good, i like that. > > Still, is it taboo to talk about a process > involving > > time, > > about a situation (self-created) that is so > unbearable > > that one let go? > > About a death that has a begining and yet no end? > > > > Patricia > > the process involving time is experiencing. > > experiences come and go. > > it may seem as if this process refers to something > outside of itself, > but it doesn't. > > in the process of time, a being changes its > situation, because the > experiencing changes in quality. > > so anything that begins, ends. and in endings are > beginnings. > > what has no birth, has no death. > > the being in time can't know what is not of time. > > it can only know what is experienced between birth > and death. > > including when it died to a previous unbearable > experience, and > something new began. but that too will end, because > it began. > > here is a paradox: > > it can't be known and has no existence as a being, > as it isn't > occurring in a space between birth and death. > > it includes all the experiencing, all the knowings, > all the beings, > all their traumas, endings of traumas, deaths and > births. > > -- Dan ....and because it includes all beings, Some beings include it in their experience, for a while, because that is the only way they can approach that fire, And they allow a consuming process to take place, willingly. Temporarily, yet necessary. Althought they amount to nothing, The fire is still consuming them. And they talk, and they say it isn`t happening, and they try to know where and how it will end, and until the last flame has licked their last desire will they stop knowing. The process, from the fire`s flames amount to nothing. Patricia > > > > > _________________________ Découvrez un nouveau moyen de poser toutes vos questions quelque soit le sujet ! Questions/Réponses pour partager vos connaissances, vos opinions et vos expériences. http://fr.answers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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