RE : I haven't been following this but...\the beauty of awkwa

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Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia <gdtige wrote:

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> --- pliantheart <pliantheart a écrit :

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> > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 "

> > <dan330033@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart "

> > <pliantheart@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > <snip>

> > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > That has not been the experience here.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Tears come frequently........quite often

> > while in

> > > > > > > conversation......tears will well up.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > They seem to be stimulated by a

> > rememberence of a pristine

> > > > > > > comfort-zone......a

> > primal....garden.....my first home.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Tears blur the edges.......the eyes

> > looking back...become my

> > > > > > > own....and I am swept away...over the orb.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Tears begin to flow ....as these words

> > appear......and I

> > > > remember once

> > > > > > > again who I am.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > That is beautiful...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am especially struck by the " I remember

> > once again who I am "

> > > > > > and the " swept away over the orb " .

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sometimes I will " choke up " when I see

> > something especially

> > > > > > beautiful. And those for whom that does not

> > happen I feel

> > > > > > something precious in life is still missing.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The American culture has roots of

> > judgementalism about a man

> > > > > > crying, though perhaps that is changing. I

> > don't know about

> > > > > > other countries.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In my view a man that can cry is more

> > mature, and stronger,

> > > > > > than a man that cannot. If a man simply

> > *never* cries then

> > > > > > he has been wounded in a very deep way, in

> > my view. It is a

> > > > > > kind of barrenness.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Bill

> > > > >

> > > > > What about when there is no image at all to

> > fit?

> > > > >

> > > > > What is it when " crying " or " not crying "

> > aren't criteria for

> > judgment

> > > > > - either way?

> > > > >

> > > > > -- Dan

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > good point...

> > > >

> > > > but there is no such thing as steady-state

> > perfection.

> > > >

> > > > Jobn Brockman talked about the beauty of

> > awkwardness...

> > > >

> > > > there is no right or wrong entails judgement as

> > a

> > > > possibility, and criteria as having their place.

> > > >

> > > > stuff just happens, and whatever " we " there may

> > appear

> > > > to be will be stirred into it.

> > > >

> > > > patterns flowing in and out, all around, make it

> > all

> > > > seem real (perhaps)... but then....

> > > >

> > > > the page is turned

> > > >

> > > > and whatever that was, just isn't any more...

> > > >

> > > > it is this acceptance of imperfection and the

> > > > endlessness of transition, rather than the

> > nailing

> > > > of the pristine, unpolluted real...

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Bill

> > >

> > > " steady state perfection " is a criterion.

> > >

> > > no criteria attach ---

> > >

> > > (not the idea " no criteria attach " -- just " no

> > criteria attach " )

> > >

> >

> > LOL!

> >

> > that's the trick...

> > learning to write words that dissolve themselves.

> >

> > the words I just wrote

> > *were* what I wrote...

> > are no more

> >

> > what you are reading

> > *is* no more...

> >

> > ...

> >

> > ..

> >

> > .

>

> my my...you were so witty..... back then!!

 

too cute!

 

though it is *you* that was the witty one...

back then!!

 

or was that then...?