Guest guest Posted July 20, 2006 Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia <gdtige wrote: > > > --- skywhilds <skywords a écrit : > > > Nisargadatta , OConnor > > Patricia <gdtige@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > --- dan330033 <dan330033@> a écrit : > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , OConnor > > > > Patricia <gdtige@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey Anna -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There isn't any " after enlightenment " -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > except as an idea to make people feel > > > > special > > > > > > about themselves. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Dan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well danny boy, two things: yes, you are > > > > right > > > > > > and yes, you are > > > > > > > wrong. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so be it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > Right and wrong isn't what this is about > > Ana. > > > > > > > > > > > > Nor is there any specialness available. > > > > > > > > > > > > Clearly, dropping self-constructed illusions > > and > > > > > > deceptions isn't > > > > > > going to be attractive. > > > > > > > > > > > > There's nothing in it for " me. " > > > > > > > > > > > > No wonderful feelings, no spiritual > > experiences, > > > > no > > > > > > great insights. > > > > > > > > > > > > Just releasing, in and of itself. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Dan > > > > > > > > > > if there wasn`t wonder in releasing, would > > there > > > > be a > > > > > let go of Dan??? > > > > > Or maybe wonder isn`t the right word, but > > since > > > > there > > > > > are no right words.... > > > > > > > > > > Patricia > > > > > > > > from my perspective, the release is automatic, > > > > simply when it is time. > > > > > > > > when " holding " is, literally, impossible. > > > > > > > > as long as " holding " seems possible to continue, > > the > > > > attempt continues. > > > > > > > > I can't release, in order to get a result, like > > > > wonder, love, or awe. > > > > > > > > That is because " I " am what is released, and > > there > > > > is nothing in it > > > > for " me. " > > > > > > > > -- Dan > > > > > > good, i like that. > > > Still, is it taboo to talk about a process > > involving > > > time, > > > about a situation (self-created) that is so > > unbearable > > > that one let go? > > > About a death that has a begining and yet no end? > > > > > > Patricia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I only want to know how you yourself are feeling. > > Please do not > > talk to me about no-self, nor about abstract > > situations. So that I > > may feel your love and offer mine in return. > > > > I am no longer interested in the semantics of being > > an island. If you > > suffer, open the door to love in love. If you do > > not suffer, why > > list, why anything? > > > > Listing, being, is suffering, anyone who denies this > > is suffering too > > much to admit it. > > > > Love is beautiful suffering in hope of healing > > transformation though > > another, is it not? > > > > No one is beyond hope, beauty, transformation, the > > longing for another > > to love and be loved. > > > > ~*~ > > > Love isn`t someone or for someone. It is. > Nobody is going to give you what is. > And you can`t dispense love to another since you don`t > own it. > is that too abstract? > > Patricia > Don't mean to be too contentious, but, yes. Because you wouldn't have posted if you'd not had a need for recognition (which is love). Nor would you have posted directly to my post, if love were merely autonomous, generic. You might protest that " love just happens, no need, just burgeoning. " But I know there's anticipation. And that's all I'm talking bout: Expectation, appreciation, disappointment, patience, impatience, these are all specific to each person, place, situation. What you're saying is as abstract as, " no one need make a distinction between fog and smog, it's all air, anyway. " ~*~ Sky (not bob in any but an abstract, " we're all human offering love, " sense) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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