RE : whats the purpose in fighting with words../iietsa

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Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart

wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart "

<pliantheart@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > <snip>

> > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > from whole seeing no word are superior to any other

word...

> > > > > > from point of views some words are higher than other

words...

> > > > > > the search for the highest word...indicates that you

take

> > > > yourself

> > > > > > to be what you are not...

> > > > > > you are the highest nature so to speak.....and words are

> > mere

> > > > > > shadows on the wall....

> > > > > > be who you are...and the wall will disolve..

> > > > > > ...iietsa

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > What Is includes words... there is no separation between

> > > > > words and " what is real " ...

> > > > >

> > > > > the notion of some things as " shadows " , is a notion

> > > > > of separation, a notion of what is real and what isn't...

> > > > >

> > > > > there seems to be a tendency by many to put words and

> > > > > so-called concepts on one plane and what is " referred to "

> > > > > on another. Why do that?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Bill

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > hey Bill

> > > > the mind is only thought...

> > > > and thought however beautyful is mere shadow...

> > > > within the love of real beauty...

> > > > differencies in objects are many..but created by the one and

> > same

> > > > mind..

> > > > mind is not the whole...

> > > > the mind is one...making many...

> > > > many is in the mind...

> > > > mind is in the one...

> > > > the one is the whole...

> > > > ...iietsa

> > > >

> > >

> > > so you are saying it is important to distinguish

> > > " mind " from " the one " ?

> > >

> > > Bill

> > >

> > the one is not a thing (it is what you are) and cannot be known

from

> > elsewhere ...

> > the mind is a thing in the one (in you) and can easely be seen

by

> > the one (by you)

> > it cannot be said that the one is separated from the mind

because

> > the one is not a thing...you are not a thing...

> > ...iietsa

>

> but my point was that you seem to be making

> a distinction of " the mind " as an important distinction.

>

> I see no such distinction.

>

> Is it your view to see some things as " of mind " and

> some as not? It seems you must be, else you wouldn't

> be emphasizing mind as a significant distinction.

>

> Bill

>

mind you can see...all its creations you can see...

but the one that sees the mind is not a mind-product

this one so to speek you can only be...

you are the one...the open door...but sometimes there are

emphasizing the closed door (mind)...and thats in a way a going away

from your true Self (openness)

....iietsa