Guest guest Posted July 20, 2006 Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia <gdtige@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > --- skywhilds <skywords@> a écrit : > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , OConnor > > > > Patricia <gdtige@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- dan330033 <dan330033@> a écrit : > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , OConnor > > > > > > Patricia <gdtige@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey Anna -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There isn't any " after enlightenment " -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > except as an idea to make people feel > > > > > > special > > > > > > > > about themselves. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Dan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well danny boy, two things: yes, you are > > > > > > right > > > > > > > > and yes, you are > > > > > > > > > wrong. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so be it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Right and wrong isn't what this is about > > > > Ana. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nor is there any specialness available. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Clearly, dropping self-constructed illusions > > > > and > > > > > > > > deceptions isn't > > > > > > > > going to be attractive. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There's nothing in it for " me. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No wonderful feelings, no spiritual > > > > experiences, > > > > > > no > > > > > > > > great insights. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just releasing, in and of itself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Dan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if there wasn`t wonder in releasing, would > > > > there > > > > > > be a > > > > > > > let go of Dan??? > > > > > > > Or maybe wonder isn`t the right word, but > > > > since > > > > > > there > > > > > > > are no right words.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Patricia > > > > > > > > > > > > from my perspective, the release is automatic, > > > > > > simply when it is time. > > > > > > > > > > > > when " holding " is, literally, impossible. > > > > > > > > > > > > as long as " holding " seems possible to continue, > > > > the > > > > > > attempt continues. > > > > > > > > > > > > I can't release, in order to get a result, like > > > > > > wonder, love, or awe. > > > > > > > > > > > > That is because " I " am what is released, and > > > > there > > > > > > is nothing in it > > > > > > for " me. " > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Dan > > > > > > > > > > good, i like that. > > > > > Still, is it taboo to talk about a process > > > > involving > > > > > time, > > > > > about a situation (self-created) that is so > > > > unbearable > > > > > that one let go? > > > > > About a death that has a begining and yet no end? > > > > > > > > > > Patricia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I only want to know how you yourself are feeling. > > > > Please do not > > > > talk to me about no-self, nor about abstract > > > > situations. So that I > > > > may feel your love and offer mine in return. > > > > > > > > I am no longer interested in the semantics of being > > > > an island. If you > > > > suffer, open the door to love in love. If you do > > > > not suffer, why > > > > list, why anything? > > > > > > > > Listing, being, is suffering, anyone who denies this > > > > is suffering too > > > > much to admit it. > > > > > > > > Love is beautiful suffering in hope of healing > > > > transformation though > > > > another, is it not? > > > > > > > > No one is beyond hope, beauty, transformation, the > > > > longing for another > > > > to love and be loved. > > > > > > > > ~*~ > > > > > > > > > Love isn`t someone or for someone. It is. > > > Nobody is going to give you what is. > > > And you can`t dispense love to another since you don`t > > > own it. > > > is that too abstract? > > > > > > Patricia > > > > > > > Don't mean to be too contentious, but, yes. > > > > Because you wouldn't have posted if you'd not had a need for > > recognition (which is love). Nor would you have posted directly to my > > post, if love were merely autonomous, generic. > > > > You might protest that " love just happens, no need, just burgeoning. " > > But I know there's anticipation. And that's all I'm talking bout: > > > > Expectation, appreciation, disappointment, patience, impatience, these > > are all specific to each person, place, situation. > > > > What you're saying is as abstract as, " no one need make a distinction > > between fog and smog, it's all air, anyway. " > > > > ~*~ > > Sky > > (not bob in any but an abstract, > > " we're all human offering love, " sense) > > > > > P.S.: All I'm saying is that love is always more, not less, > discriminating. And this makes ALL the difference. > > Even when it reaches the point of " not caring, " it only does so > because it already cares so much more, most thoroughly. It cares > beyond caring. Only then can it be said to be absolute (not > abstract). I wonder if I'm making any sense. I hope so. ah!.......now I get it........yes you're making perfect sense. love beyond loving, .........almost bob(working on absolute bob) ;-)) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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