Guest guest Posted July 20, 2006 Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 I'm a novice when it comes to the tweaked, re-tweaked, ad infinitum Bible, and it seems to me that the shortest verse in it is either " And Jesus Wept " or " Jesus Wept " . > :-) > > Michael > Adamson > actually a topic in wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_wept Suffering, weeping, sin, repentance and redemption are central to Christianity as it is today. Suffering as a way of salvation ( Judy's way.) That's why the Nestorians, who claimed Jesus only appeared to be a man, but was always only spirit, were declared heretics. To denied the hypostatic union (Christ both as man and God) was to deny the possibility of his suffering; therefore, making his crucifixion only a sham. So, of course, it's important that Jesus is seen grieving and weeping for a dead friend. Could not he, if he was God not only resuscitate Lazarus, but eliminate death itself for all? If he could not, he was not omnipotent; if he could and would not, then, either death is good, or he wasn't good. In either case, his weeping was for show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2006 Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie5 wrote: > > I'm a novice when it comes to the tweaked, re-tweaked, ad infinitum > Bible, and it seems to me that the shortest verse in it is either " And > Jesus Wept " or " Jesus Wept " . > > :-) > > > > Michael > > Adamson@ > > > actually a topic in wikipedia: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_wept > > Suffering, weeping, sin, repentance and redemption > are central to Christianity as it is today. Suffering > as a way of salvation ( Judy's way.) That's why > the Nestorians, who claimed Jesus only appeared > to be a man, but was always only spirit, were > declared heretics. To denied the hypostatic union > (Christ both as man and God) was to deny the > possibility of his suffering; therefore, making his > crucifixion only a sham. So, of course, it's important > that Jesus is seen grieving and weeping for a dead > friend. Could not he, if he was God not only > resuscitate Lazarus, but eliminate death itself for all? > > If he could not, he was not omnipotent; if he could > and would not, then, either death is good, or he > wasn't good. In either case, his weeping was for show. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2006 Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords wrote: > > Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie5@> wrote: > > > > I'm a novice when it comes to the tweaked, re-tweaked, ad infinitum > > Bible, and it seems to me that the shortest verse in it is either " And > > Jesus Wept " or " Jesus Wept " . > > > :-) > > > > > > Michael > > > Adamson@ > > > > > actually a topic in wikipedia: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_wept > > > > Suffering, weeping, sin, repentance and redemption > > are central to Christianity as it is today. Suffering > > as a way of salvation ( Judy's way.) That's why > > the Nestorians, who claimed Jesus only appeared > > to be a man, but was always only spirit, were > > declared heretics. To denied the hypostatic union > > (Christ both as man and God) was to deny the > > possibility of his suffering; therefore, making his > > crucifixion only a sham. So, of course, it's important > > that Jesus is seen grieving and weeping for a dead > > friend. Could not he, if he was God not only > > resuscitate Lazarus, but eliminate death itself for all? > > > > If he could not, he was not omnipotent; if he could > > and would not, then, either death is good, or he > > wasn't good. In either case, his weeping was for show. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2006 Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie5@> wrote: > > > > > > I'm a novice when it comes to the tweaked, re-tweaked, ad infinitum > > > Bible, and it seems to me that the shortest verse in it is > either " And > > > Jesus Wept " or " Jesus Wept " . > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > Michael > > > > Adamson@ > > > > > > > actually a topic in wikipedia: > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_wept > > > > > > Suffering, weeping, sin, repentance and redemption > > > are central to Christianity as it is today. Suffering > > > as a way of salvation ( Judy's way.) That's why > > > the Nestorians, who claimed Jesus only appeared > > > to be a man, but was always only spirit, were > > > declared heretics. To denied the hypostatic union > > > (Christ both as man and God) was to deny the > > > possibility of his suffering; therefore, making his > > > crucifixion only a sham. So, of course, it's important > > > that Jesus is seen grieving and weeping for a dead > > > friend. Could not he, if he was God not only > > > resuscitate Lazarus, but eliminate death itself for all? > > > > > > If he could not, he was not omnipotent; if he could > > > and would not, then, either death is good, or he > > > wasn't good. In either case, his weeping was for show. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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