Guest guest Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia <gdtige wrote: > > --- iietsa <iietsa a écrit : > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " > > <dan330033@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " > > <skywords@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >I only want to know how you yourself are > > feeling. Please do > > not > > > > talk to me about no-self, nor about abstract > > situations. So > > that I > > > > may feel your love and offer mine in return. > > > > > > > > I am no longer interested in the semantics of > > being an island. > > If you > > > > suffer, open the door to love in love. If you > > do not suffer, why > > > > list, why anything? > > > > > > > > Listing, being, is suffering, anyone who denies > > this is > > suffering too > > > > much to admit it. > > > > > > > > Love is beautiful suffering in hope of healing > > transformation > > though > > > > another, is it not? > > > > > > > > No one is beyond hope, beauty, transformation, > > the longing for > > another > > > > to love and be loved. > > > > > > > > ~*~ > > > > > > People talk about their concern to end suffering, > > theirs or someone > > > else's. > > > > > > That very attempt to end suffering, or to have a > > solution for > > > suffering, it itself a form of suffering. And of > > course, it's a > > form > > > of suffering that has been *very* good for > > organized religions. > > > > > > Suffering isn't problematic, in and of itself, as > > it is. > > > > > > What gets problematic is the attaching to > > suffering, or conceiving > > of > > > an opposite state that one wants to attach to, or > > conceiving > > suffering > > > as something needing to be got rid of. Often, the > > conceiving it as > > > something better to be got rid of, and the > > attaching to it, are the > > > same process. > > > > > > There's where the excessive friction comes in. > > > > > > If one is suffering, one can suffer honestly and > > nonproblematically, > > > although generally people complicate it and make > > it worse than it > > is. > > > If one isn't suffering, then no need to try to > > manufacture it. > > How > > > it is, it is. If someone else is there and a > > loving connection is, > > > then it is. If a bond is broken, then it is time > > for a bond to > > break. > > > Nothing to attach to, in either situation. > > > > > > There's no need to look for a remedy, or to hold a > > person or some > > kind > > > of state of being in love as a solution. > > > > > > Love isn't a remedy for suffering. > > > > > > Love is able to embody suffering without trying to > > move away to > > some > > > other state of being, without requiring a > > transformation of itself > > > into something else. > > > > > > To think someone else will be the answer for one's > > suffering, often > > > tends to compound one's suffering. > > > > > > -- Dan > > > > > > > love is welcoming what comes... > > without even empasizing what comes... > > loves very nature is loving... > > and loving dont judge what comes... > > > > ...iietsa > > that meth head neighbor of mine approached me > yesterday, his eyes so shiny and fixed, on i don`t > know what, > i just pick up those bananas i was lovingly looking > at and ran. > > didn`t feel to welcoming, > no time for judjing either. > Should i have stayed and wait for whatever was coming > with > trust that love solves everything?? > don`t think so. > > Patricia You ought all move in with me Toombaru and iietsa true Such love as to cure all of you Especially Patricia Too ~*~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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