Guest guest Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 there is no *contact* anywhere no two things coming together ever to realize just this much a freedom from the chains of being/becoming Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart wrote: > > there is no *contact* > anywhere > no two things coming together > ever > > to realize > just this much > a freedom from the chains of > being/becoming > > > > Bill sure.....everything is One.... the perception by mind....of this oneness.... give endless different views.... of one... and the same it's a fantastic....trick.....this mind-machine.... isn't it? Marc > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart wrote: > > there is no *contact* > anywhere > no two things coming together > ever > > to realize > just this much > a freedom from the chains of > being/becoming > > > > Bill That's the heart of the matter. And is one aware as this, even when one fell on a rock and broke one's ankle, and is howling in pain, and cursing the idiot who put that rock there ... -- Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > wrote: > > > > there is no *contact* > > anywhere > > no two things coming together > > ever > > > > to realize > > just this much > > a freedom from the chains of > > being/becoming > > > > > > > > Bill > > That's the heart of the matter. > > And is one aware as this, even when one fell on a rock and broke one's > ankle, and is howling in pain, and cursing the idiot who put that rock > there ... > > -- Dan > No CONTACT????? No CONTACT???? NO CONTACT??? NO CONTACT?? NO CONTACT? NO CONTACT NO CONTAC NO CONTA NO CONT NO CON NO CO NO C NO N Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2006 Report Share Posted July 22, 2006 Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart wrote: > > there is no *contact* > anywhere > no two things coming together > ever > > to realize > just this much > a freedom from the chains of > being/becoming > > > > Bill > oneness is contact high... ....iietsa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2006 Report Share Posted July 22, 2006 Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > wrote: > > > > there is no *contact* > > anywhere > > no two things coming together > > ever > > > > to realize > > just this much > > a freedom from the chains of > > being/becoming > > > > > > > > Bill > > > > oneness is contact high... > ...iietsa > now, you're talking... how can it ever be anything less if one knows contact high??? Hey You (Waters) 4:39 From " The Wall " Pink Floyd Hey you, out there in the cold Getting lonely, getting old Can you feel me? Hey you, standing in the aisles With itchy feet and fading smiles Can you feel me? Hey you, dont help them to bury the light Don't give in without a fight. Hey you, out there on your own Sitting naked by the phone Would you touch me? Hey you, with you ear against the wall Waiting for someone to call out Would you touch me? Hey you, would you help me to carry the stone? Open your heart, I'm coming home. But it was only fantasy. The wall was too high, As you can see. No matter how he tried, He could not break free. And the worms ate into his brain. Hey you, standing in the road always doing what you're told, Can you help me? Hey you, out there beyond the wall, Breaking bottles in the hall, Can you help me? Hey you, don't tell me there's no hope at all Together we stand, divided we fall. [Click of TV being turned on] " Well, only got an hour of daylight left. Better get started " " Isnt it unsafe to travel at night? " " It'll be a lot less safe to stay here. You're father's gunna pick up our trail before long " " Can Loca ride? " " Yeah, I can ride... Magaret, time to go! Maigret, thank you for everything " " Goodbye Chenga " " Goodbye miss ... " " I'll be back " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2006 Report Share Posted July 22, 2006 Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > > wrote: > > > > > > there is no *contact* > > > anywhere > > > no two things coming together > > > ever > > > > > > to realize > > > just this much > > > a freedom from the chains of > > > being/becoming > > > > > > > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > oneness is contact high... > > ...iietsa > > > > > > now, you're talking... > > how can it ever be anything less if one knows contact high??? > I dont understand the question......but when taking oneself to be what one is not...the ego... then everything is seen from this egos point of view... there is good and bad...there is ups and downs... its kind of like a termometer.... it goes up to about +50 and down to about -50 (this of course differs depending on what scale you use)... all this is the so called duality-life... and there is nothing wrong with that... on this list it seems that there is a lot of talking about the true real temperature being +-0... but +-0 is still within the land of the termometer whoever appears to live such a life (in his own eyes)... could be said to be like a blind man...or a dead man... because it is nothing but a lie or an illusion... this dead or blind man is all in the mind.... when and if there is a waking up from this life... meaning no longer taking mind-stuff to be the ultimate truth... the mind looses its glueing effect totaly... and there is no longer any clinging to anything that is mindish... ....iietsa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2006 Report Share Posted July 22, 2006 <snip> > when taking oneself to be what one is not...the ego... > then everything is seen from this egos point of view... > there is good and bad...there is ups and downs... > its kind of like a termometer.... > it goes up to about +50 and down to about -50 > (this of course differs depending on what scale you use)... > all this is the so called duality-life... > and there is nothing wrong with that... > on this list it seems that there is a lot of talking > about the true real temperature being +-0... > but +-0 is still within the land of the termometer > whoever appears to live such a life (in his own eyes)... > could be said to be like a blind man...or a dead man... > because it is nothing but a lie or an illusion... > this dead or blind man is all in the mind.... > when and if there is a waking up from this life... > meaning no longer taking mind-stuff to be the ultimate truth... > the mind looses its glueing effect totaly... > and there is no longer any clinging to anything that is mindish... > ...iietsa agreed! when there are " good days " and " bad days " that means the " individual self " is in operation. and I mean good days/bad days in the sense that it *feels* like a good day or bad day. non-identification with the " mechanism " means no sense of ups and downs. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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