Guest guest Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 And the end is where You began. The question was: Love, where did You go? Circuitous reclamation of the Way traveled in the To-ing and fro-ing--distinctions and revisions In the altercations along the path of denial, How one revisits the houses of the holy and More often than not, Dines in the rooms of the profane, Dis-eases of man fraught with virtues untapped And taped in dirty bandages worn by soldiers of fortune, Having won the last war, Fought and wrought against one-self. The outcome is the battle cry: Oh, Death, where is thy sting, Where is thy victory? Peace, Anna 7/21/06 p.s. happy birthday!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 Nisargadatta , " Anna Ruiz 2 " <kailashana wrote: > > And the end is where You began. > The question was: Love, where did You go? > > Circuitous reclamation of the Way traveled in the > To-ing and fro-ing--distinctions and revisions > In the altercations along the path of denial, > How one revisits the houses of the holy and > More often than not, > Dines in the rooms of the profane, > Dis-eases of man fraught with virtues untapped > And taped in dirty bandages worn by soldiers of fortune, > Having won the last war, > Fought and wrought against one-self. > > The outcome is the battle cry: > > Oh, Death, where is thy sting, > Where is thy victory? > > > Peace, > Anna > > 7/21/06 > > > p.s. happy birthday!! Happy Birthday Who! You shall not taste death, for there is no death for you: you cannot experience your own death. Are you born? Life and death cannot be separated; you have no chance whatever of knowing for yourself where one begins and the other ends. You can experience the death of another, but not your own. The only death is physical death; there is no psychological death. Why are you afraid of death? Your experiencing structure cannot conceive of any event that it will not experience. It even expects to preside over its own dissolution, and so it wonders what death will feel like—it tries to project the feeling of what it will feel like not to feel. But in order to anticipate a future experience, your structure needs knowledge, a similar past experience it can call upon for reference. You cannot remember what it felt like not to exist before you were born, and you cannot remember your own birth, so you have no basis for projecting your future non-existence. As long as you have known life, you have known yourself, you have been there, so, to you, you have a feeling of eternity. To justify this feeling of eternity, your structure begins to convince itself that there will be a life after death for you—heaven, reincarnation, transmigration of souls, or whatever. What is it that you think reincarnates? Where is that soul of yours? Can you taste it, touch it, show it to me? What is there inside of you that goes to heaven? What is there? There is nothing inside of you but fear. Fearlessness is not freedom from all phobias. The phobias are essential for the survival of the organism. You must have the fear of heights and the fear of depths—if that is not there, there is a danger of your falling. But you want to teach courage to man to fight on the battlefield. Why do you want to teach him courage? To kill others and get killed himself—that is your culture. Crossing the Atlantic in a balloon or the Pacific on a raft—anybody can do that— that is not courage. Fearlessness is not a silly thing like that. Courage is to brush aside everything that man has experienced and felt before you. You are the only one, greater than all those things. Everything is finished, the whole tradition is finished, however sacred and holy it may be—then only can you be yourself—that is individuality. For the first time you become an individual. -U.G. Krishnamurti ..............bob > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Anna Ruiz 2 " <kailashana@> > wrote: > > > > And the end is where You began. > > The question was: Love, where did You go? > > > > Circuitous reclamation of the Way traveled in the > > To-ing and fro-ing--distinctions and revisions > > In the altercations along the path of denial, > > How one revisits the houses of the holy and > > More often than not, > > Dines in the rooms of the profane, > > Dis-eases of man fraught with virtues untapped > > And taped in dirty bandages worn by soldiers of fortune, > > Having won the last war, > > Fought and wrought against one-self. > > > > The outcome is the battle cry: > > > > Oh, Death, where is thy sting, > > Where is thy victory? > > > > > > Peace, > > Anna > > > > 7/21/06 > > > > > > p.s. happy birthday!! > > > > > > Happy Birthday Who! > > > You shall not taste death, for there is no death for you: you cannot > experience your own death. Are you born? Life and death cannot be > separated; you have no chance whatever of knowing for yourself where > one begins and the other ends. You can experience the death of > another, but not your own. The only death is physical death; there is > no psychological death. > > Why are you afraid of death? Your experiencing structure cannot > conceive of any event that it will not experience. It even expects to > preside over its own dissolution, and so it wonders what death will > feel like—it tries to project the feeling of what it will feel like > not to feel. But in order to anticipate a future experience, your > structure needs knowledge, a similar past experience it can call upon > for reference. You cannot remember what it felt like not to exist > before you were born, and you cannot remember your own birth, so you > have no basis for projecting your future non-existence. As long as > you have known life, you have known yourself, you have been there, > so, to you, you have a feeling of eternity. To justify this feeling > of eternity, your structure begins to convince itself that there will > be a life after death for you—heaven, reincarnation, transmigration > of souls, or whatever. What is it that you think reincarnates? Where > is that soul of yours? Can you taste it, touch it, show it to me? > What is there inside of you that goes to heaven? What is there? There > is nothing inside of you but fear. > > Fearlessness is not freedom from all phobias. The phobias are > essential for the survival of the organism. You must have the fear of > heights and the fear of depths—if that is not there, there is a > danger of your falling. But you want to teach courage to man to fight > on the battlefield. Why do you want to teach him courage? To kill > others and get killed himself—that is your culture. Crossing the > Atlantic in a balloon or the Pacific on a raft—anybody can do that— > that is not courage. Fearlessness is not a silly thing like that. > > Courage is to brush aside everything that man has experienced and > felt before you. You are the only one, greater than all those things. > Everything is finished, the whole tradition is finished, however > sacred and holy it may be—then only can you be yourself—that is > individuality. For the first time you become an individual. > > -U.G. Krishnamurti > > > ..............bob > > Thank you Bobby, Hugs to All, Anna p.s. one of the reasons why we are the one and the many: to give & receive hugs, eh? > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: .. > > Courage is to brush aside everything that man has experienced and > felt before you. You are the only one, greater than all those things. > Everything is finished, the whole tradition is finished, however > sacred and holy it may be—then only can you be yourself—that is > individuality. For the first time you become an individual. > > -U.G. Krishnamurti > > > ..............bob Very nice! He said the " i-word. " That alone takes courage in this crowd. ;-) In-divide-you-all Yes. " You shall be a solitary one. The solitary one shall know the kingdom of heaven. " " Let your eye be single. Your whole body fills with light. " (attributed to Jesus of Nazareth) " Observe the lone tree on the mountain. Gnarled from the wind, useless for firewood. " (Taoist saying) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > wrote: > . > > > > Courage is to brush aside everything that man has experienced and > > felt before you. You are the only one, greater than all those things. > > Everything is finished, the whole tradition is finished, however > > sacred and holy it may be—then only can you be yourself—that is > > individuality. For the first time you become an individual. > > > > -U.G. Krishnamurti > > > > > > ..............bob > > Very nice! > > He said the " i-word. " > > That alone takes courage in this crowd. > > ;-) > > In-divide-you-all > > Yes. > > " You shall be a solitary one. The solitary one shall know the kingdom > of heaven. " > > " Let your eye be single. Your whole body fills with light. " > > (attributed to Jesus of Nazareth) > > " Observe the lone tree on the mountain. Gnarled from the wind, > useless for firewood. " > > (Taoist saying) > Beauties all Dan!......thanks for posting them. ..........bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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