Talking about 'Self' - - -

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Any human being cannot do any work just by will even after long concentration.

The same work happens as soon as the Lord wishes just once. This whole Universe

is created just by His one wish. The faith is a long time concentrated will

power. The will is common in both the Lord and human being. The will is a

characteristic of awareness. This awareness is common item in both the Lord and

the human being. Therefore, will is also a common item in both the Lord and

soul (human being). All these worlds are created just by one wish of the Lord.

But even if the soul wishes one crore times in a highly concentrated way called

“Faith”, even an atom is not created. When both are forms of awareness, why

this vast difference comes? Just the one wish of the Lord appears as the solid

Universe to all the souls! Even the highly concentrated will of a soul is not

appearing as materialized form to other souls. Such will is not even appearing

as imagination to other souls. It is

appearing as imagination only to that particular soul, which imagined so. In

one house the bulb is not glowing inspite of putting on the switch several

times. But in another house, the bulb is glowing when just once its switch is

put on. In both the houses, same switches, same wires and same bulbs exist.

But, the difference is that in the first house, there is no current. In the

second house, there is current. Similarly in the awareness of soul, God

(Parabrahman) does not exist. In the awareness of the Lord, God exists. This

awareness is called as Brahman, because awareness, which is the first creation

of God, is greatest among all the items of creation. Brahman means anything,

which is greatest among a category of items. The word Parabrahman means God or

Creator, who is beyond Brahman.

 

Due to the power of God only, creation takes place. Mere awareness has no

such power to create this Universe. This awareness is the will or imagination

of God. This Universe appears always as imagination only to God. This Universe

itself is an ocean of awareness. The soul is a drop in it. The power of the

ocean is far greater than the power of the drop. Due to this only, this

universe appears as materialized solid to the soul. This whole universe is

again a drop only in the awareness created by God in the beginning, which is

called as “Mula Prakruti” or “Maha Maya”. God does not exist in the Universe.

Therefore, this Universe becomes a scene to the spectator-God. Scene must be

different from the spectator. The “Mula Prakruti” into which God entered and

pervaded is called as Lord (Eswara). This Lord is spectator and Universe is

scene. Thus, both the Scene and the outer cover of Brahman are forms of

awareness only. The soul is also a form of awareness. Soul

– Universe –Spectator become greater and greater as we pass on. God is neither

in the Universe nor is in the soul. Therefore, both these have no power of

creation. Spectatorship is the characteristic of the awareness. Therefore,

even the soul is a spectator. But the soul can see its own imaginary world as

imagination and the Universe as reality. It cannot see this Universe as

imagination. For the Lord only, this Universe including all the souls is an

imagination.

 

The Lord knows and sees everything in the Universe. But the soul sees and

knows only a little in the Universe. Thus the spectatorship also differs in

both the cases. The soul can see and knows everything of its own imaginary

world only. Though, the Universe is entirely awareness, a part of it becomes

spectator in the form of souls and another part is inert which does not see or

know anything. This difference took place only by the will of the Lord.

Therefore, a soul cannot throw away this difference created by the Lord and

cannot treat both as one and the same awareness. The soul cannot say that the

whole Universe has spectatorship. Some claim that they have realized the entire

Universe as one awareness, which is totally against their own experience. Such

experience of difference is the will of the Lord and so they behave differently

for all practical purposes. No scholar talks with a stone! A stone cannot

preach you and remove your ignorance for all practical

purposes. Even the Lord views both the soul and inert matter differently as

per their status, but He views both as His imagination. But the soul cannot see

both as his imagination and the soul also views both differently like the Lord.

If you refer to the external form of the Lord only, which is awareness, both the

external form of Lord and the entire soul are one and the same. The difference

is that the Lord is God embraced by the awareness, where as the soul is mere

awareness. The Lord is the wire with current, where as the soul is the wire

without current.

 

At the lotus feet of Shri Datta Swami

surya

http://www.universal-spirituality.org

 

 

dan330033 <dan330033 wrote:

Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart

wrote:

 

> Is the expression That-to-which-words-cannot-refer an oxymoron?

 

It's a paradox.

 

Like saying ' " yes/no " with no separation between.'

 

> Also, when using a term like 'Self', does that necessarily

> entail a concept?

 

I like the term " No-Self/Self " myself.

 

> To what does a term like 'Self' refer?

 

It refers to a bias against the term 'Other.'

 

It should be replaced with the term " Self/Other. "

 

Or, one could make sure to alternate " Self " and " Other " every time the

concept is employed.

 

> Bill

>

> Bill

 

Oops, did you rewrite this and forget to erase your second signature?

 

Or are you, like Toomey, portraying your two minds?

 

Dan (consciously)

 

Dan (unconsciously)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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