Guest guest Posted July 23, 2006 Report Share Posted July 23, 2006 #1.........---- roberibus111 <Roberibus111 wrote: > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > <Roberibus111@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I have been following the global warming thread to some > delight > > > at the > > > > > laughs I get reading some of the thoughts and some sadness > too > > > at some > > > > > of the views. But let's lookie: > > > > > > > > > > there is global warming (or not)..and there nothing we can do > > > about it > > > > > > > > > > there's cancer and there's nothing we can do about it > > > > > > > > > > there's war and there's nothing we can do about it > > > > > > > > > > there's world hunger and there's nothing we can do about it > > > > > > > > > > there's corporate abuse and there's nothing we can do about it > > > > > > > > > > there's governmental misuse of power and......ditto > > > > > > > > > > there's deformed babies and......ditto > > > > > > > > > > there's alzheimers and......ditto > > > > > > > > > > there's AIDS and ........ditto > > > > > > > > > > there's Avian Bird Flu and.......ditto > > > > > > > > > > there's social injustice and.....ditto > > > > > > > > > > there are killers and....ditto > > > > > (we can't build enough jails, we let 'em out early..they do > it > > > again) > > > > > > > > > > there's child molesters and....ditto > > > > > (same same) > > > > > > > > > > there's religious intolerance and.....ditto > > > > > > > > > > there's pollution and ......ditto > > > > > > > > > > there's racial intolerence and...ditto > > > > > > > > > > there's sexual orientation intolerance and.... > > > > > > > > > > there's war on our city streets and....ditto > > > > > > > > > > there's plagues yearly to different crops of the fields > > > and...ditto > > > > > > > > > > there are ecosystems being annihilated daily and....ditto > > > > > > > > > > ..... > > > > > > > > > > theres......lots and lots and lots o' bullshit in this > > > world....whether > > > > > this world is real or not,,,,,,if not than it's still > bullshit, > > > just > > > > > imagined or illusory bullshit but it's still going down some > way > > > > > somehow to some'ones'......no matter how cutsie you get about > > > there > > > > > being no one here and all the cool sounding stuff, and how > there > > > is > > > > > nothing that can be done but we'll do our bit and tune up our > > > > > commercial Hummvies or pet the quail in the canyon.......but > I > > > prefer > > > > > to do or PRETEND to do what I can with what I can about what > I > > > can > > > > > whenever I can....and still talk about > > > the " Deeper " , " Truer " , " More > > > > > Sophisticated Outlook " stuff too.........and I really can't > > > laugh with > > > > > the jokesters who think that they sound ever so enlightened > > > and 'with > > > > > IT', when they just try to negate the reality of these events > in > > > our > > > > > lives. > > > > > > > > > > Just a thought of a guy who sometimes just can't play the > game > > > that's > > > > > played by the folks of Realization Road sometimes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .......bob > > > > > the guy who seems least likely to just not be able to laugh > at > > > this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The world as viewed through the eyes of a doer is a confusing > and > > > > frightening palce indeed. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > Toomie, this is not the time for confusion and being frightened > by > > > any sense of doing. This is the time to be an active participant > in > > > the world of creation around us. Imagined or otherwise, the > blood > > > is red when flowing. > > > > > > As a matter of fact it is time to be courageous in the light of > > > awareness. The world is a beautiful paradise, however, until > > > everyone sees this, recreates this and not a haven for hatred and > > > hostility, all our beautiful and non-dual words don't amount to a > > > crock of shit piled high, smelling to some high heaven that > doesn't > > > exist. > > > > > > The time is now. The place is here. > > > > > > *non wavering* Anna > > > > > > > > > Why yes indeed. > > > > (toombaru pointing wildly to the south) > > > > " I think the I see a windmill......Let's go kill it!' > > > > (toombaru pulls down his face shield.....hoists his petard.....and > > gallops off toward the enemy.) > > > > > > toombaru > > > > toombaru > > Yep, I guess the best bet, the best beat, is to just look at things, > philosophise and have a few laughs.......maybe even dance to the mean > beat daddyo! I mean if your really a cool nondual fool having fun > and seeing suckers everywhere....chasing windmills of the mind.. Ho > Ho Ho!.....Golly.....look below......Maharaj N. was either a good > comic or a stupido ready to hoist his petard and gallop off towards > those windy, mindy traps......and even DIE for some silly > cause.......what a dupe no? > .............. > from " I Am That " .......Nisargadatta chasing Quixote's > Windmills ......what a dingbat!.....He liked a good joke too I guess. > > Q: Any day there may be a riot right in front of you, perhaps people > killing each other. Surely you cannot say: nothing is happening and > remain aloof. > > M: ____I never talked of remaining aloof. YOU COULD AS WELL SEE ME > JUMPING INTO THE FRAY TO SAVE SOMEBODY AND GETTING KILLED.YET TO ME > NOTHING HAPPENED. > > would he have stayed out of the frays of global warming and disease > and war and...............? yeah probably on those things which > weren't just this isolated incident he'd have stayed cool and asked > for some sweets and a tune up on his mojo....after all if nothing's > really happenin'........there is nothing you can do about it! > > This stuff is all a joke?????? I'll drop my bongos to that notion pal. > > .............bob > > > > 'He' would have 'done' the dictates of everything that preceded the 'decision'. It is a beautiful........unfathonable.........mystery. LOL toombaru #2.......---- roberibus111 <Roberibus111 wrote: > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia <gdtige@> > wrote: > > > > > > --- anabebe57 <kailashana@> a écrit : > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I have been following the global warming thread to > > > > some delight at > > > > the > > > > > laughs I get reading some of the thoughts and some > > > > sadness too at > > > > some > > > > > of the views. But let's lookie: > > > > > > > > > > there is global warming (or not)..and there > > > > nothing we can do > > > > about it > > > > > > > > > > there's cancer and there's nothing we can do about > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > there's war and there's nothing we can do about it > > > > > > > > > > there's world hunger and there's nothing we can do > > > > about it > > > > > > > > > > there's corporate abuse and there's nothing we can > > > > do about it > > > > > > > > > > there's governmental misuse of power > > > > and......ditto > > > > > > > > > > there's deformed babies and......ditto > > > > > > > > > > there's alzheimers and......ditto > > > > > > > > > > there's AIDS and ........ditto > > > > > > > > > > there's Avian Bird Flu and.......ditto > > > > > > > > > > there's social injustice and.....ditto > > > > > > > > > > there are killers and....ditto > > > > > (we can't build enough jails, we let 'em out > > > > early..they do it > > > > again) > > > > > > > > > > there's child molesters and....ditto > > > > > (same same) > > > > > > > > > > there's religious intolerance and.....ditto > > > > > > > > > > there's pollution and ......ditto > > > > > > > > > > there's racial intolerence and...ditto > > > > > > > > > > there's sexual orientation intolerance and.... > > > > > > > > > > there's war on our city streets and....ditto > > > > > > > > > > there's plagues yearly to different crops of the > > > > fields and...ditto > > > > > > > > > > there are ecosystems being annihilated daily > > > > and....ditto > > > > > > > > > > ..... > > > > > > > > > > theres......lots and lots and lots o' bullshit in > > > > this > > > > world....whether > > > > > this world is real or not,,,,,,if not than it's > > > > still bullshit, > > > > just > > > > > imagined or illusory bullshit but it's still going > > > > down some way > > > > > somehow to some'ones'......no matter how cutsie > > > > you get about > > > > there > > > > > being no one here and all the cool sounding stuff, > > > > and how there > > > > is > > > > > nothing that can be done but we'll do our bit and > > > > tune up our > > > > > commercial Hummvies or pet the quail in the > > > > canyon.......but I > > > > prefer > > > > > to do or PRETEND to do what I can with what I can > > > > about what I can > > > > > whenever I can....and still talk about > > > > the " Deeper " , " Truer " , " More > > > > > Sophisticated Outlook " stuff too.........and I > > > > really can't laugh > > > > with > > > > > the jokesters who think that they sound ever so > > > > enlightened > > > > and 'with > > > > > IT', when they just try to negate the reality of > > > > these events in > > > > our > > > > > lives. > > > > > > > > > > Just a thought of a guy who sometimes just can't > > > > play the game > > > > that's > > > > > played by the folks of Realization Road sometimes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .......bob > > > > > the guy who seems least likely to just not be able > > > > to laugh at > > > > this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no one with a heart can laugh at suffering. hmmm. > > > > > > > > truth being told. how do we change anything? one > > > > person at a time. > > > > who knows who that 100th monkey will be who will tip > > > > the scales and > > > > create balance? eh? > > > > > > > > Anna ;-) > > > > > > Anna can only tip and create balance for herself. > > > And yes, true, the awareness of each war brings so > > > much pain. > > > Also the awareness of my suffering neighbour. In him > > > is the entire pain of the entire war. The pain of one > > > man is as terrible as the pain of an entire country. > > > > > > hey darling... > > > > > > Patricia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A dream cannot be repaired from the inside. > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > a dream cannot be " repaired' PERIOD.......within or without. It's > events never really happened...........so what!.......when in the > dream you do what you can to repair what you 'see' is happening(even > though in some " higher level " it's not real), because it's your > excperience of what is real AT THE TIME.......either that or you are > an autitstic dreamer.........same deal with the dream of > life........whether anything is going on or down, whether 'you' are, > or are not, of any 'real' substance......in your being-time it's what > you got.....if you are stabbed or fall off a cliff........you > scream......if you see the child being hurt.......you run to > help........if you see the world warring, ecologically > dying.......whatever you see that in your living experience seems > harmful or wrong......you do something about it.......whether it > makes any difference or not........my living time is not experienced > as a stone or dead wood fence or any other thing that just sits > there...and I won't pretend because I know it's all a dream without a > dreamer and other pontifical crap, that I'll just be a nothing and > explain to the other nothings about how there is just nothing to be > done.......but try to impress those other nonexistent nothings about > how wise and enlightened a nonexisytent dream nothing my illusory 'I' > can be and seem to others. To do that kind of thing is really a > CIRCULAR thing..........and plain dumb too. > > ..........bob > > > > Glimpse the nature of self....and the walls come a tumblin down. " If someone need help.........help them. But don't become a professional do gooder. " Nisargadatta #3.............---- roberibus111 <Roberibus111 wrote: > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That which at first appears as a terrifying void turns turns out to > be > > empty in the same sense that space is empty and at the same time is > > filled completely and fully with manifestation. > > > > Space and manifestation are mutually codependent. > > > > Space enfolds.....embraces......connects the infinite manifestation > > yet never interferes with it. > > > > Manifestation fills......flows...emerges....and disappears......all > > with no effect upon the space in which it occurs. > > > > Neither can exist without the other........and yet they are the > same. > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > I love reading Franklin Merrell Wolff myself. He's one of my > faves.....do you remember which Aphorism in Consciousness Without and > Object this is from? I do. But I'm fond of the different wording > here....it's sort of cute really. > > > .......bob > > > > > Everytime I drove to Mammoth........I would look up that canyon where Wolfe spent the last part of his life.......and linger long........and long. toombaru thank you for your help , ........bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2006 Report Share Posted July 23, 2006 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > #1.........---- roberibus111 <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > <Roberibus111@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I have been following the global warming thread to some > > delight > > > > at the > > > > > > laughs I get reading some of the thoughts and some sadness > > too > > > > at some > > > > > > of the views. But let's lookie: > > > > > > > > > > > > there is global warming (or not)..and there nothing we can > do > > > > about it > > > > > > > > > > > > there's cancer and there's nothing we can do about it > > > > > > > > > > > > there's war and there's nothing we can do about it > > > > > > > > > > > > there's world hunger and there's nothing we can do about it > > > > > > > > > > > > there's corporate abuse and there's nothing we can do about > it > > > > > > > > > > > > there's governmental misuse of power and......ditto > > > > > > > > > > > > there's deformed babies and......ditto > > > > > > > > > > > > there's alzheimers and......ditto > > > > > > > > > > > > there's AIDS and ........ditto > > > > > > > > > > > > there's Avian Bird Flu and.......ditto > > > > > > > > > > > > there's social injustice and.....ditto > > > > > > > > > > > > there are killers and....ditto > > > > > > (we can't build enough jails, we let 'em out early..they do > > it > > > > again) > > > > > > > > > > > > there's child molesters and....ditto > > > > > > (same same) > > > > > > > > > > > > there's religious intolerance and.....ditto > > > > > > > > > > > > there's pollution and ......ditto > > > > > > > > > > > > there's racial intolerence and...ditto > > > > > > > > > > > > there's sexual orientation intolerance and.... > > > > > > > > > > > > there's war on our city streets and....ditto > > > > > > > > > > > > there's plagues yearly to different crops of the fields > > > > and...ditto > > > > > > > > > > > > there are ecosystems being annihilated daily and....ditto > > > > > > > > > > > > ..... > > > > > > > > > > > > theres......lots and lots and lots o' bullshit in this > > > > world....whether > > > > > > this world is real or not,,,,,,if not than it's still > > bullshit, > > > > just > > > > > > imagined or illusory bullshit but it's still going down some > > way > > > > > > somehow to some'ones'......no matter how cutsie you get > about > > > > there > > > > > > being no one here and all the cool sounding stuff, and how > > there > > > > is > > > > > > nothing that can be done but we'll do our bit and tune up > our > > > > > > commercial Hummvies or pet the quail in the canyon.......but > > I > > > > prefer > > > > > > to do or PRETEND to do what I can with what I can about what > > I > > > > can > > > > > > whenever I can....and still talk about > > > > the " Deeper " , " Truer " , " More > > > > > > Sophisticated Outlook " stuff too.........and I really can't > > > > laugh with > > > > > > the jokesters who think that they sound ever so enlightened > > > > and 'with > > > > > > IT', when they just try to negate the reality of these > events > > in > > > > our > > > > > > lives. > > > > > > > > > > > > Just a thought of a guy who sometimes just can't play the > > game > > > > that's > > > > > > played by the folks of Realization Road sometimes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .......bob > > > > > > the guy who seems least likely to just not be able to laugh > > at > > > > this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The world as viewed through the eyes of a doer is a confusing > > and > > > > > frightening palce indeed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > Toomie, this is not the time for confusion and being frightened > > by > > > > any sense of doing. This is the time to be an active > participant > > in > > > > the world of creation around us. Imagined or otherwise, the > > blood > > > > is red when flowing. > > > > > > > > As a matter of fact it is time to be courageous in the light of > > > > awareness. The world is a beautiful paradise, however, until > > > > everyone sees this, recreates this and not a haven for hatred > and > > > > hostility, all our beautiful and non-dual words don't amount to > a > > > > crock of shit piled high, smelling to some high heaven that > > doesn't > > > > exist. > > > > > > > > The time is now. The place is here. > > > > > > > > *non wavering* Anna > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why yes indeed. > > > > > > (toombaru pointing wildly to the south) > > > > > > " I think the I see a windmill......Let's go kill it!' > > > > > > (toombaru pulls down his face shield.....hoists his petard.....and > > > gallops off toward the enemy.) > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > toombaru > > > > Yep, I guess the best bet, the best beat, is to just look at things, > > philosophise and have a few laughs.......maybe even dance to the > mean > > beat daddyo! I mean if your really a cool nondual fool having fun > > and seeing suckers everywhere....chasing windmills of the mind.. Ho > > Ho Ho!.....Golly.....look below......Maharaj N. was either a good > > comic or a stupido ready to hoist his petard and gallop off towards > > those windy, mindy traps......and even DIE for some silly > > cause.......what a dupe no? > > .............. > > from " I Am That " .......Nisargadatta chasing Quixote's > > Windmills ......what a dingbat!.....He liked a good joke too I > guess. > > > > Q: Any day there may be a riot right in front of you, perhaps people > > killing each other. Surely you cannot say: nothing is happening and > > remain aloof. > > > > M: ____I never talked of remaining aloof. YOU COULD AS WELL SEE ME > > JUMPING INTO THE FRAY TO SAVE SOMEBODY AND GETTING KILLED.YET TO ME > > NOTHING HAPPENED. > > > > would he have stayed out of the frays of global warming and disease > > and war and...............? yeah probably on those things which > > weren't just this isolated incident he'd have stayed cool and asked > > for some sweets and a tune up on his mojo....after all if nothing's > > really happenin'........there is nothing you can do about it! > > > > This stuff is all a joke?????? I'll drop my bongos to that notion > pal. > > > > .............bob > > > > > > > > > > > 'He' would have 'done' the dictates of everything that preceded > the 'decision'. > > It is a beautiful........unfathonable.........mystery. > > > LOL > > > toombaru > > > > > #2.......---- roberibus111 <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia <gdtige@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- anabebe57 <kailashana@> a écrit : > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I have been following the global warming thread to > > > > > some delight at > > > > > the > > > > > > laughs I get reading some of the thoughts and some > > > > > sadness too at > > > > > some > > > > > > of the views. But let's lookie: > > > > > > > > > > > > there is global warming (or not)..and there > > > > > nothing we can do > > > > > about it > > > > > > > > > > > > there's cancer and there's nothing we can do about > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > > > there's war and there's nothing we can do about it > > > > > > > > > > > > there's world hunger and there's nothing we can do > > > > > about it > > > > > > > > > > > > there's corporate abuse and there's nothing we can > > > > > do about it > > > > > > > > > > > > there's governmental misuse of power > > > > > and......ditto > > > > > > > > > > > > there's deformed babies and......ditto > > > > > > > > > > > > there's alzheimers and......ditto > > > > > > > > > > > > there's AIDS and ........ditto > > > > > > > > > > > > there's Avian Bird Flu and.......ditto > > > > > > > > > > > > there's social injustice and.....ditto > > > > > > > > > > > > there are killers and....ditto > > > > > > (we can't build enough jails, we let 'em out > > > > > early..they do it > > > > > again) > > > > > > > > > > > > there's child molesters and....ditto > > > > > > (same same) > > > > > > > > > > > > there's religious intolerance and.....ditto > > > > > > > > > > > > there's pollution and ......ditto > > > > > > > > > > > > there's racial intolerence and...ditto > > > > > > > > > > > > there's sexual orientation intolerance and.... > > > > > > > > > > > > there's war on our city streets and....ditto > > > > > > > > > > > > there's plagues yearly to different crops of the > > > > > fields and...ditto > > > > > > > > > > > > there are ecosystems being annihilated daily > > > > > and....ditto > > > > > > > > > > > > ..... > > > > > > > > > > > > theres......lots and lots and lots o' bullshit in > > > > > this > > > > > world....whether > > > > > > this world is real or not,,,,,,if not than it's > > > > > still bullshit, > > > > > just > > > > > > imagined or illusory bullshit but it's still going > > > > > down some way > > > > > > somehow to some'ones'......no matter how cutsie > > > > > you get about > > > > > there > > > > > > being no one here and all the cool sounding stuff, > > > > > and how there > > > > > is > > > > > > nothing that can be done but we'll do our bit and > > > > > tune up our > > > > > > commercial Hummvies or pet the quail in the > > > > > canyon.......but I > > > > > prefer > > > > > > to do or PRETEND to do what I can with what I can > > > > > about what I can > > > > > > whenever I can....and still talk about > > > > > the " Deeper " , " Truer " , " More > > > > > > Sophisticated Outlook " stuff too.........and I > > > > > really can't laugh > > > > > with > > > > > > the jokesters who think that they sound ever so > > > > > enlightened > > > > > and 'with > > > > > > IT', when they just try to negate the reality of > > > > > these events in > > > > > our > > > > > > lives. > > > > > > > > > > > > Just a thought of a guy who sometimes just can't > > > > > play the game > > > > > that's > > > > > > played by the folks of Realization Road sometimes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .......bob > > > > > > the guy who seems least likely to just not be able > > > > > to laugh at > > > > > this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no one with a heart can laugh at suffering. hmmm. > > > > > > > > > > truth being told. how do we change anything? one > > > > > person at a time. > > > > > who knows who that 100th monkey will be who will tip > > > > > the scales and > > > > > create balance? eh? > > > > > > > > > > Anna ;-) > > > > > > > > Anna can only tip and create balance for herself. > > > > And yes, true, the awareness of each war brings so > > > > much pain. > > > > Also the awareness of my suffering neighbour. In him > > > > is the entire pain of the entire war. The pain of one > > > > man is as terrible as the pain of an entire country. > > > > > > > > hey darling... > > > > > > > > Patricia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A dream cannot be repaired from the inside. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > a dream cannot be " repaired' PERIOD.......within or without. It's > > events never really happened...........so what!.......when in the > > dream you do what you can to repair what you 'see' is happening(even > > though in some " higher level " it's not real), because it's your > > excperience of what is real AT THE TIME.......either that or you are > > an autitstic dreamer.........same deal with the dream of > > life........whether anything is going on or down, whether 'you' are, > > or are not, of any 'real' substance......in your being-time it's > what > > you got.....if you are stabbed or fall off a cliff........you > > scream......if you see the child being hurt.......you run to > > help........if you see the world warring, ecologically > > dying.......whatever you see that in your living experience seems > > harmful or wrong......you do something about it.......whether it > > makes any difference or not........my living time is not experienced > > as a stone or dead wood fence or any other thing that just sits > > there...and I won't pretend because I know it's all a dream without > a > > dreamer and other pontifical crap, that I'll just be a nothing and > > explain to the other nothings about how there is just nothing to be > > done.......but try to impress those other nonexistent nothings about > > how wise and enlightened a nonexisytent dream nothing my > illusory 'I' > > can be and seem to others. To do that kind of thing is really a > > CIRCULAR thing..........and plain dumb too. > > > > ..........bob > > > > > > > > > > > Glimpse the nature of self....and the walls come a tumblin down. > > > > " If someone need help.........help them. > But don't become a professional do gooder. " > > > Nisargadatta > > > > #3.............---- roberibus111 <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That which at first appears as a terrifying void turns turns out > to > > be > > > empty in the same sense that space is empty and at the same time > is > > > filled completely and fully with manifestation. > > > > > > Space and manifestation are mutually codependent. > > > > > > Space enfolds.....embraces......connects the infinite > manifestation > > > yet never interferes with it. > > > > > > Manifestation fills......flows...emerges....and > disappears......all > > > with no effect upon the space in which it occurs. > > > > > > Neither can exist without the other........and yet they are the > > same. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > I love reading Franklin Merrell Wolff myself. He's one of my > > faves.....do you remember which Aphorism in Consciousness Without > and > > Object this is from? I do. But I'm fond of the different wording > > here....it's sort of cute really. > > > > > > .......bob > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Everytime I drove to Mammoth........I would look up that canyon where > Wolfe spent the last part of his life.......and linger > long........and long. > > > > > toombaru > > > thank you > for your help , > > > ........bob > Life..........loves itself. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2006 Report Share Posted July 23, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > wrote: > > > > #1.........---- roberibus111 <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > <Roberibus111@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have been following the global warming thread to some > > > delight > > > > > at the > > > > > > > laughs I get reading some of the thoughts and some sadness > > > too > > > > > at some > > > > > > > of the views. But let's lookie: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is global warming (or not)..and there nothing we can > > do > > > > > about it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there's cancer and there's nothing we can do about it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there's war and there's nothing we can do about it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there's world hunger and there's nothing we can do about it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there's corporate abuse and there's nothing we can do about > > it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there's governmental misuse of power and......ditto > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there's deformed babies and......ditto > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there's alzheimers and......ditto > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there's AIDS and ........ditto > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there's Avian Bird Flu and.......ditto > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there's social injustice and.....ditto > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there are killers and....ditto > > > > > > > (we can't build enough jails, we let 'em out early..they do > > > it > > > > > again) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there's child molesters and....ditto > > > > > > > (same same) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there's religious intolerance and.....ditto > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there's pollution and ......ditto > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there's racial intolerence and...ditto > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there's sexual orientation intolerance and.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there's war on our city streets and....ditto > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there's plagues yearly to different crops of the fields > > > > > and...ditto > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there are ecosystems being annihilated daily and....ditto > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > theres......lots and lots and lots o' bullshit in this > > > > > world....whether > > > > > > > this world is real or not,,,,,,if not than it's still > > > bullshit, > > > > > just > > > > > > > imagined or illusory bullshit but it's still going down some > > > way > > > > > > > somehow to some'ones'......no matter how cutsie you get > > about > > > > > there > > > > > > > being no one here and all the cool sounding stuff, and how > > > there > > > > > is > > > > > > > nothing that can be done but we'll do our bit and tune up > > our > > > > > > > commercial Hummvies or pet the quail in the canyon.......but > > > I > > > > > prefer > > > > > > > to do or PRETEND to do what I can with what I can about what > > > I > > > > > can > > > > > > > whenever I can....and still talk about > > > > > the " Deeper " , " Truer " , " More > > > > > > > Sophisticated Outlook " stuff too.........and I really can't > > > > > laugh with > > > > > > > the jokesters who think that they sound ever so enlightened > > > > > and 'with > > > > > > > IT', when they just try to negate the reality of these > > events > > > in > > > > > our > > > > > > > lives. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just a thought of a guy who sometimes just can't play the > > > game > > > > > that's > > > > > > > played by the folks of Realization Road sometimes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .......bob > > > > > > > the guy who seems least likely to just not be able to laugh > > > at > > > > > this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The world as viewed through the eyes of a doer is a confusing > > > and > > > > > > frightening palce indeed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Toomie, this is not the time for confusion and being frightened > > > by > > > > > any sense of doing. This is the time to be an active > > participant > > > in > > > > > the world of creation around us. Imagined or otherwise, the > > > blood > > > > > is red when flowing. > > > > > > > > > > As a matter of fact it is time to be courageous in the light of > > > > > awareness. The world is a beautiful paradise, however, until > > > > > everyone sees this, recreates this and not a haven for hatred > > and > > > > > hostility, all our beautiful and non-dual words don't amount to > > a > > > > > crock of shit piled high, smelling to some high heaven that > > > doesn't > > > > > exist. > > > > > > > > > > The time is now. The place is here. > > > > > > > > > > *non wavering* Anna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why yes indeed. > > > > > > > > (toombaru pointing wildly to the south) > > > > > > > > " I think the I see a windmill......Let's go kill it!' > > > > > > > > (toombaru pulls down his face shield.....hoists his petard.....and > > > > gallops off toward the enemy.) > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > Yep, I guess the best bet, the best beat, is to just look at things, > > > philosophise and have a few laughs.......maybe even dance to the > > mean > > > beat daddyo! I mean if your really a cool nondual fool having fun > > > and seeing suckers everywhere....chasing windmills of the mind.. Ho > > > Ho Ho!.....Golly.....look below......Maharaj N. was either a good > > > comic or a stupido ready to hoist his petard and gallop off towards > > > those windy, mindy traps......and even DIE for some silly > > > cause.......what a dupe no? > > > .............. > > > from " I Am That " .......Nisargadatta chasing Quixote's > > > Windmills ......what a dingbat!.....He liked a good joke too I > > guess. > > > > > > Q: Any day there may be a riot right in front of you, perhaps people > > > killing each other. Surely you cannot say: nothing is happening and > > > remain aloof. > > > > > > M: ____I never talked of remaining aloof. YOU COULD AS WELL SEE ME > > > JUMPING INTO THE FRAY TO SAVE SOMEBODY AND GETTING KILLED.YET TO ME > > > NOTHING HAPPENED. > > > > > > would he have stayed out of the frays of global warming and disease > > > and war and...............? yeah probably on those things which > > > weren't just this isolated incident he'd have stayed cool and asked > > > for some sweets and a tune up on his mojo....after all if nothing's > > > really happenin'........there is nothing you can do about it! > > > > > > This stuff is all a joke?????? I'll drop my bongos to that notion > > pal. > > > > > > .............bob > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'He' would have 'done' the dictates of everything that preceded > > the 'decision'. > > > > It is a beautiful........unfathonable.........mystery. > > > > > > LOL > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > #2.......---- roberibus111 <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia <gdtige@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- anabebe57 <kailashana@> a écrit : > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have been following the global warming thread to > > > > > > some delight at > > > > > > the > > > > > > > laughs I get reading some of the thoughts and some > > > > > > sadness too at > > > > > > some > > > > > > > of the views. But let's lookie: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is global warming (or not)..and there > > > > > > nothing we can do > > > > > > about it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there's cancer and there's nothing we can do about > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there's war and there's nothing we can do about it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there's world hunger and there's nothing we can do > > > > > > about it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there's corporate abuse and there's nothing we can > > > > > > do about it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there's governmental misuse of power > > > > > > and......ditto > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there's deformed babies and......ditto > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there's alzheimers and......ditto > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there's AIDS and ........ditto > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there's Avian Bird Flu and.......ditto > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there's social injustice and.....ditto > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there are killers and....ditto > > > > > > > (we can't build enough jails, we let 'em out > > > > > > early..they do it > > > > > > again) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there's child molesters and....ditto > > > > > > > (same same) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there's religious intolerance and.....ditto > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there's pollution and ......ditto > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there's racial intolerence and...ditto > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there's sexual orientation intolerance and.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there's war on our city streets and....ditto > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there's plagues yearly to different crops of the > > > > > > fields and...ditto > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there are ecosystems being annihilated daily > > > > > > and....ditto > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > theres......lots and lots and lots o' bullshit in > > > > > > this > > > > > > world....whether > > > > > > > this world is real or not,,,,,,if not than it's > > > > > > still bullshit, > > > > > > just > > > > > > > imagined or illusory bullshit but it's still going > > > > > > down some way > > > > > > > somehow to some'ones'......no matter how cutsie > > > > > > you get about > > > > > > there > > > > > > > being no one here and all the cool sounding stuff, > > > > > > and how there > > > > > > is > > > > > > > nothing that can be done but we'll do our bit and > > > > > > tune up our > > > > > > > commercial Hummvies or pet the quail in the > > > > > > canyon.......but I > > > > > > prefer > > > > > > > to do or PRETEND to do what I can with what I can > > > > > > about what I can > > > > > > > whenever I can....and still talk about > > > > > > the " Deeper " , " Truer " , " More > > > > > > > Sophisticated Outlook " stuff too.........and I > > > > > > really can't laugh > > > > > > with > > > > > > > the jokesters who think that they sound ever so > > > > > > enlightened > > > > > > and 'with > > > > > > > IT', when they just try to negate the reality of > > > > > > these events in > > > > > > our > > > > > > > lives. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just a thought of a guy who sometimes just can't > > > > > > play the game > > > > > > that's > > > > > > > played by the folks of Realization Road sometimes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .......bob > > > > > > > the guy who seems least likely to just not be able > > > > > > to laugh at > > > > > > this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no one with a heart can laugh at suffering. hmmm. > > > > > > > > > > > > truth being told. how do we change anything? one > > > > > > person at a time. > > > > > > who knows who that 100th monkey will be who will tip > > > > > > the scales and > > > > > > create balance? eh? > > > > > > > > > > > > Anna ;-) > > > > > > > > > > Anna can only tip and create balance for herself. > > > > > And yes, true, the awareness of each war brings so > > > > > much pain. > > > > > Also the awareness of my suffering neighbour. In him > > > > > is the entire pain of the entire war. The pain of one > > > > > man is as terrible as the pain of an entire country. > > > > > > > > > > hey darling... > > > > > > > > > > Patricia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A dream cannot be repaired from the inside. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > a dream cannot be " repaired' PERIOD.......within or without. It's > > > events never really happened...........so what!.......when in the > > > dream you do what you can to repair what you 'see' is happening (even > > > though in some " higher level " it's not real), because it's your > > > excperience of what is real AT THE TIME.......either that or you are > > > an autitstic dreamer.........same deal with the dream of > > > life........whether anything is going on or down, whether 'you' are, > > > or are not, of any 'real' substance......in your being-time it's > > what > > > you got.....if you are stabbed or fall off a cliff........you > > > scream......if you see the child being hurt.......you run to > > > help........if you see the world warring, ecologically > > > dying.......whatever you see that in your living experience seems > > > harmful or wrong......you do something about it.......whether it > > > makes any difference or not........my living time is not experienced > > > as a stone or dead wood fence or any other thing that just sits > > > there...and I won't pretend because I know it's all a dream without > > a > > > dreamer and other pontifical crap, that I'll just be a nothing and > > > explain to the other nothings about how there is just nothing to be > > > done.......but try to impress those other nonexistent nothings about > > > how wise and enlightened a nonexisytent dream nothing my > > illusory 'I' > > > can be and seem to others. To do that kind of thing is really a > > > CIRCULAR thing..........and plain dumb too. > > > > > > ..........bob > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Glimpse the nature of self....and the walls come a tumblin down. > > > > > > > > " If someone need help.........help them. > > But don't become a professional do gooder. " > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > > > #3.............---- roberibus111 <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That which at first appears as a terrifying void turns turns out > > to > > > be > > > > empty in the same sense that space is empty and at the same time > > is > > > > filled completely and fully with manifestation. > > > > > > > > Space and manifestation are mutually codependent. > > > > > > > > Space enfolds.....embraces......connects the infinite > > manifestation > > > > yet never interferes with it. > > > > > > > > Manifestation fills......flows...emerges....and > > disappears......all > > > > with no effect upon the space in which it occurs. > > > > > > > > Neither can exist without the other........and yet they are the > > > same. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > I love reading Franklin Merrell Wolff myself. He's one of my > > > faves.....do you remember which Aphorism in Consciousness Without > > and > > > Object this is from? I do. But I'm fond of the different wording > > > here....it's sort of cute really. > > > > > > > > > .......bob > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Everytime I drove to Mammoth........I would look up that canyon where > > Wolfe spent the last part of his life.......and linger > > long........and long. > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > thank you > > for your help , > > > > > > ........bob > Life..........loves itself. > > > > toombaru an affair to remember.....lest we forget....a who' who of lovers. ......bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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