[ring ring] Who is the mirror? / Who is the real Self?

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Nisargadatta , Lulu Dong <lulu.dong wrote:

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> Hi Marc,

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> you say that the mirror is not the things it reflects,

 

 

 

yes....the mirror is necessary that things are reflected....but the

mirror isn't this things...

 

but this things ...are....because mirror is

 

without mirror....no things.....

 

 

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> in other words,

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> The real self is not the things it reflects,

 

the real self is not this " names and forms " ....coming and going....

....appearing on the mirror.....changing all the time.....without rest

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> is this your final viewpoint/decision?

 

 

this is my viewpoint....

 

a " viewpoint " can't realy be a " decision " .....

a decision would mean a mind/intellect ....viewpoint/concept....

valuable....for some moments of time....

 

real viewpoints....happen.....at times of a peaceful mind....

 

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> Or can we twist your viewpoint of the mirror around into the

exact opposite?

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> The exact opposite would be that the mirror is all things it

reflects,

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> or the real self is all things it reflects?

 

 

so you mean...that all this forms and names.....coming and going.....

is the real self?

 

if this would be the case.....then you would need

to " know/see/follow/be... " all this things.....outside there

in order to " see " the real self......

 

 

yes...this is a complete opposite " viewpoint " .....

 

 

 

 

 

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> What do you think?

 

 

i think that you are trapped in the appearing things......coming and

going.....

taking them for the " real self " .......

 

(there are even some entities existing....who take their little ego-

mind...for the real Self)

 

 

 

Marc

 

 

 

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