[ring ring] Who is the mirror? / Who is the real Self?

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , Lulu Dong <lulu.dong wrote:

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> Hi Marc,

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> you say that the mirror is not the things it reflects,

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> in other words,

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> The real self is not the things it reflects,

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> is this your final viewpoint/decision?

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> Or can we twist your viewpoint of the mirror around into the

exact opposite?

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> The exact opposite would be that the mirror is all things it

reflects,

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> or the real self is all things it reflects?

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> What do you think?

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the real background is beyond reflections and non-reflections...

....iietsa

[Guest guest]

Hi Marc, Hi Goldy, Hi imaginery selves, ...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

" so you mean...that all this forms and names.....coming and going.....

is the real self " ?

 

 

Yes I mean that every form I see is my real self.

 

I know we are talking about this offline,

if you don't mind repeating yourself,

if you say the same thing twice.

there's a better chance

that I understand

what you

mean.

 

 

" if this would be the case.....then you would need

to " know / see / follow / be... " all this things..... "

 

Yes, I mean that I am all these things, I don't know all these things, I don't

follow all these things but I mean that I am all these things.

 

" all this things.....

outside there in order to " see " the real self...... "

 

I don't understand the second part of your sentence.

 

 

" yes...this is a complete opposite " viewpoint " ..... "

 

The mirror is known for having complete opposite viewpoints.

 

 

" i think that you are trapped in the appearing things......coming and

going.....

taking them for the " real self " ....... "

 

Yes I am, trapped in the appearing things,

yes, I am taking them for my real self.

I am taking all things that appear for my real self,

I am taking everyone for my real self,

every member on this list,

every car, every insect,

every object every thing.

 

I can't help it, I see my real self in everything,

mainly everything I see is unaware,

unaware that I see my real self,

that means I am seeing my real self,

from a remote point of view,

and the real self I see is unaware,

unaware that I am looking at it,

unaware that I am seeing my real self.

 

Rocks, plants, human beings, ants,

animals, I see my real self in all these things,

but they are unaware,

None of my real selves knows that they are my real self.

 

The rock, doesn't know that it is my real self,

The tree, doesn't know it is my real self.

The fish, doesn't know it is my real self.

 

It's frustrating, to see my real self

in all these different forms and expressions,

while none of my uncountable real selves,

none of these forms,

none of these expressions knows, it is my real self.

Except for my mirror.

My mirror knows that it is my real self.

But that's it, no other creature,

no other being, no other object,

no other thing knows,

that it is my real self.

 

 

" (there are even some entities existing....who take their little ego-

mind...for the real Self) "

 

It would be interesting to speak with such an entity?

Are you or do you know such an entity?

 

Lulu

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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