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De : dan330033 <dan330033

À : Nisargadatta

Envoyé le : Jeudi, 27 Juillet 2006, 12h56mn 44s

Objet : Re : Re : RE : Re: RE : Knocking / Patricia

 

Nisargadatta, OConnor Patricia <gdtige wrote:

 

> > it isn`t Dan knocking, it is your origin resurfacing without pity

> for the decorum of an entity.

> >

> > Patricia

>

> Dan knocked.

>

> Or was Dan knocked?

>

> I forget.

>

> Either way, all is in service to what is, choicelessly, seamlessly,

> and without division.

>

> -- Dan

>

> division is in our imagination. but i guess everything else is in

our imagination too.

> What is not?

> Yet imagination is good, it makes us jump several miles of dark

shadows and brings us a little closer to stopping projecting our univers.

> Imagination ending itself, imagine that!

>

>

> Patricia

 

How is an image formed?

 

A person can't answer this, because the person is an image formed.

 

The " how " isn't being done by an image.

 

If you look into this, you find that determining a location, such as

" somewhere " or " nowhere " -- depends on images.

 

Without images, you can't say anything at all about " how. "

 

Yet, you can know how.

 

Because you are forming the images.

 

But you can't know by using the images you have of " you " and " forming

an image. "

 

That is what is difficult about inquiry, and why many talk without

knowing first-hand.

 

People say things they have heard, that intuitively sound good, like:

" don't indentify with an image, with a 'me.' "

 

But saying that and believing that, is the same process of so-called

" identification " that they are advising not to do!

 

Disidentification isn't a full answer to this question. It is an

aspect of the answer.

 

You can't identify with an image and know how image formation occurs

and what it's about.

 

But disidentification and identification are two aspects of the same

coin, just like formation and destruction.

 

Only one who stands in the now-moment of formation/destructi on without

separation understands image-formation and dissolution.

 

Bill was calling this a " fire " --

 

Which is what Heraclitis and Pascal called it. Of course, all our

attempts to provide an image necessarily fall short.

 

The saying was attributed to Jesus that one is chosen to know/be.

 

But chosen by who? Someone apart from who one is?

 

No, I don't think he meant it that way at all.

 

So, to be chosen is to relinquish one's position as a chooser, not

voluntarily or because one knows ahead of time what will happen -- but

because it can't be helped.

 

It is what is, as is.

 

No division is possible, so none is there.

 

-- Dan

So, eyes get opened by some mysterious happening?

to relinquish one`s position is helped by all our relationships.

How everyone is seen as an imitation, all is false even this very evaluation i

am writing to you. All is an attempt at covering what is bare,

to experience others and know that i am not different made the relinquishing

possible.

Then, now, the beingness isn`t wondering or trying to understand itself:

beingness is receding, naturally, and has no more judgement for others or

preoccupation for itself.

Beingness is weakening.

Beingness is ensuring openess to the only one it knows:

the Unknown.

How easy to know the unknown.

 

Thank-you,

 

Patricia

 

 

 

 

 

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