[ring ring] Who is the mirror? / Who is the real Self?

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Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , Lulu Dong <lulu.dong@> wrote:

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> > Hi Marc, Hi Goldy, Hi imaginery selves, ...

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> > " so you mean...that all this forms and names.....coming and

> going.....

> > is the real self " ?

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> > Yes I mean that every form I see is my real self.

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> > I know we are talking about this offline,

> > if you don't mind repeating yourself,

> > if you say the same thing twice.

> > there's a better chance

> > that I understand

> > what you

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> > " if this would be the case.....then you would need

> > to " know / see / follow / be... " all this things..... "

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> > Yes, I mean that I am all these things, I don't know all these

> things, I don't follow all these things but I mean that I am all

> these things.

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> > " all this things.....

> > outside there in order to " see " the real self...... "

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> > I don't understand the second part of your sentence.

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> > " yes...this is a complete opposite " viewpoint " ..... "

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> > The mirror is known for having complete opposite viewpoints.

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> > " i think that you are trapped in the appearing things......coming

> and

> > going.....

> > taking them for the " real self " ....... "

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> > Yes I am, trapped in the appearing things,

> > yes, I am taking them for my real self.

> > I am taking all things that appear for my real self,

> > I am taking everyone for my real self,

> > every member on this list,

> > every car, every insect,

> > every object every thing.

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> > I can't help it, I see my real self in everything,

> > mainly everything I see is unaware,

> > unaware that I see my real self,

> > that means I am seeing my real self,

> > from a remote point of view,

> > and the real self I see is unaware,

> > unaware that I am looking at it,

> > unaware that I am seeing my real self.

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> > Rocks, plants, human beings, ants,

> > animals, I see my real self in all these things,

> > but they are unaware,

> > None of my real selves knows that they are my real self.

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> > The rock, doesn't know that it is my real self,

> > The tree, doesn't know it is my real self.

> > The fish, doesn't know it is my real self.

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> > It's frustrating, to see my real self

> > in all these different forms and expressions,

> > while none of my uncountable real selves,

> > none of these forms,

> > none of these expressions knows, it is my real self.

> > Except for my mirror.

> > My mirror knows that it is my real self.

> > But that's it, no other creature,

> > no other being, no other object,

> > no other thing knows,

> > that it is my real self.

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> > " (there are even some entities existing....who take their little

> ego-

> > mind...for the real Self) "

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> > It would be interesting to speak with such an entity?

> > Are you or do you know such an entity?

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> > Lulu

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> from your saying....that would mean speaking with yourself...

> and how interesting is that...really ?

> and to your second question...this you that might know such an

> entity...would as well be yourself...right ?

> ...iietsa

 

 

 

Marc

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" no one in the dream had been aware of my Oneness with

them "

 

" it's realy fantastic this experience.....isn't it " ?

 

 

Hi Marc, you think it's fantastic,

I think it's frustrating.

 

Lulu