[ring ring] Who is the mirror? / Who is the real Self?

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Nisargadatta , Lulu Dong <lulu.dong wrote:

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> Hi Marc, Hi Goldy, Hi imaginery selves, ...

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" so you mean...that all this forms and names.....coming and

going.....

> is the real self " ?

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> Yes I mean that every form I see is my real self.

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> I know we are talking about this offline,

> if you don't mind repeating yourself,

> if you say the same thing twice.

> there's a better chance

> that I understand

> what you

> mean.

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> " if this would be the case.....then you would need

> to " know / see / follow / be... " all this things..... "

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> Yes, I mean that I am all these things, I don't know all these

things, I don't follow all these things but I mean that I am all

these things.

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> " all this things.....

> outside there in order to " see " the real self...... "

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> I don't understand the second part of your sentence.

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> " yes...this is a complete opposite " viewpoint " ..... "

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> The mirror is known for having complete opposite viewpoints.

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> " i think that you are trapped in the appearing things......coming

and

> going.....

> taking them for the " real self " ....... "

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> Yes I am, trapped in the appearing things,

> yes, I am taking them for my real self.

> I am taking all things that appear for my real self,

> I am taking everyone for my real self,

> every member on this list,

> every car, every insect,

> every object every thing.

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> I can't help it, I see my real self in everything,

> mainly everything I see is unaware,

> unaware that I see my real self,

> that means I am seeing my real self,

> from a remote point of view,

> and the real self I see is unaware,

> unaware that I am looking at it,

> unaware that I am seeing my real self.

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> Rocks, plants, human beings, ants,

> animals, I see my real self in all these things,

> but they are unaware,

> None of my real selves knows that they are my real self.

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> The rock, doesn't know that it is my real self,

> The tree, doesn't know it is my real self.

> The fish, doesn't know it is my real self.

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> It's frustrating, to see my real self

> in all these different forms and expressions,

> while none of my uncountable real selves,

> none of these forms,

> none of these expressions knows, it is my real self.

> Except for my mirror.

> My mirror knows that it is my real self.

> But that's it, no other creature,

> no other being, no other object,

> no other thing knows,

> that it is my real self.

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> " (there are even some entities existing....who take their little

ego-

> mind...for the real Self) "

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> It would be interesting to speak with such an entity?

> Are you or do you know such an entity?

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> Lulu

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from your saying....that would mean speaking with yourself...

and how interesting is that...really ?

and to your second question...this you that might know such an

entity...would as well be yourself...right ?

....iietsa