the unknown thing thing

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Hi bob,

 

 

you sound like a professional guru...

 

I'm sure... in deep slepp... i understand every word

of what you say... i borrowed that from marc...

 

 

it's nice to think and not think about these matters

when trying to understand them... really can make you

go wheeee...

 

when i came across non-existence for the first time...

i was very into the mirror and accepting all things...

what these people said about nothing and no one... i

took very serious... at one point... my self

collapsed... to the point where i felt that everything

which was left from me and myself... was a tiny piece

of nothing... it was an itchy feeling in the region of

my chest... near my heart...

 

that day... i wanted to dissapear into nothingness...

to my own luck... the mirror helped my out of this

crisis... by imagination... i managed to swim back out

of this black hole of nothingness... which was like a

sog... swirling me deeper and deeper into nothing...

where i eventually died.

 

but you can not die in the mind... while your body

still breathes... anyway... it was the worst

experience in my entire life... worse than drowning in

a pool as a child... at physical death... or near

death... one at least dies unconsciously...

 

so hey... why am i telling you all this... i guess i'm

just looking for minds to connect to... the volume in

this group is so high... that i sometimes wonder...

what exactly it is that we are discussing in here...

 

then again... who am i ... i think it's great that

this list is so active... that so many active people

and minds participate... i can't read every mail... or

i would be on this list 24/7... but i think it's cool

the way it is... there is so much noise...

 

so... back to the silence... i'm trying to find a

collective answer to the who am i question... a

collective answer which unites us all...

 

is nisargadatta dead ?

 

i think he is... but think of the idea... that we are

death... each one of us... wouldn't we all... in a

way... be nisargadatta's reincarnations ?

 

answering the same question again...

 

 

so let us get down to the basics... let us speak a

language everyone understands...

 

let us put our ego's aside and think with our

unlimited mind...

 

let us find our collective sense of who am i...

 

what can it possibly be that rings true for

everyone...

 

is it the mirror ?

 

is it death ?

 

is it your real self ?

 

or is it maybe god ?

 

 

think of it ...

 

if each of us has to find an answer to that same

question... and eventually finds himself to be united

with nisargadatta... with an infinite mind ...

 

how much time could we save... how much sufferers

could we spare... if we work on a collective answer...

 

if we unravel the unknown... and present it with

words... a normal human being comprehends...

 

 

To sum it up... i'll go quickly through your mail...

and twist it into mine.

 

 

Lulu

 

 

 

because 'death' is all in the mind.... who's mind you

ask.....no one's mind... that's a good question

because there is no one to posess the mind of death

.... any such mind must be surely dead.

 

a dead thing such as a 'dead mind', in fact there are

no 'dead things' at all... or do you know any ?

 

so therefore an so on, even the 'dead mind' which is a

'dead thing' is not. Except in 'thought' you see.

 

Now despite the fact that there are no 'dead things'

or 'dead thoughts'... and no such place for 'dead

thoughts' or 'dead things' to occur in or about, it

doesn't matter at all......because despite this fact,

there are no 'dead things' as 'dead facts' or 'dead

thoughts' that supposedly contain all this stuff.

 

Therefore and thereby... no 'dead things', no 'dead

thoughts', no 'dead minds', no 'dead facts', no 'dead

knowns'... and no 'dead unknowns'......and now you may

ask how I know all this.... but that doesn't matter

because I am not dead either and in that very

non-existence lies the unknowing which remains unknown

as unknown but thought to be known as known which of

course is all wrong by being so wrong.......

 

can you 'understand' the 'dead'. And this brings us to

another interesting dead-thing thing called 'robots'.

but since there are no dead machines that can possibly

be dead robots or dead things known as dead thoughts

and thought about because there are no dead

minds......you gotta love it or get sick trying to

figure it out.

 

right now a litle peanut butter sandwich and milk

sounds like a nice thing for no one to not do... not

think about without a mind to use and without any

feelings about it anyway....

 

let's chow down and drink up and realize how it all

fits together.......there is so much written and

talked about regarding these matters, that are not

matters at all, that it all should be as

clear as the pristine, ever-abiding, quiescence of

nothing at all that is flowing like something or other

in it's 'ness'....that's flowing among those in the

known of this unknown thing called....

 

was bob