Guest guest Posted July 30, 2006 Report Share Posted July 30, 2006 A butterfly is not a transformed caccoon. A chair is not a transformed tree. A tree is not a transformed seed. An ocean is not a transformed river. An adult is not a transfommed child. Nothing is ever transformed. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2006 Report Share Posted July 30, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > > > > A butterfly is not a transformed caccoon. > > A chair is not a transformed tree. > > A tree is not a transformed seed. > > An ocean is not a transformed river. > > An adult is not a transfommed child. > > Nothing is ever transformed. > > > > toombaru > yes, there's a clarity in discontinuity we kneel in awe before the executioner but the heart weaves continuity and before our death we cry mother .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2006 Report Share Posted July 30, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > > > > A butterfly is not a transformed caccoon. > > A chair is not a transformed tree. > > A tree is not a transformed seed. > > An ocean is not a transformed river. > > An adult is not a transfommed child. > > Nothing is ever transformed. > > > > toombaru from this piece of work we can fairly well be certain that toombarus never change, or are transformed. a toombaru remains a toombaru for ever and ever and ever.....even in Neverland.when the toombaru is gone that will be something else, and that something else will be itself, and not itself transformed toombaru. .........bob (the one and only untransformed and unreformed bob) also not bob....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2006 Report Share Posted July 30, 2006 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > A butterfly is not a transformed caccoon. > > > > A chair is not a transformed tree. > > > > A tree is not a transformed seed. > > > > An ocean is not a transformed river. > > > > An adult is not a transfommed child. > > > > Nothing is ever transformed. > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > from this piece of work we can fairly well be certain that toombarus > never change, or are transformed. a toombaru remains a toombaru for > ever and ever and ever.. Does a river ever change? Is there such a thing as a river? Is a river change itself? Does it become ocean? Was it ever separated from the ocean? ....even in Neverland.when the toombaru is > gone that will be something else, and that something else will be > itself, and not itself transformed toombaru. Yes.....nicely put. In order for some'thing' to be what it is.....there would have to be a frozen, distinct moment in which that could occur. There are no things. There are no moments. Everything is flowing into everything. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2006 Report Share Posted July 30, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A butterfly is not a transformed caccoon. > > > > > > A chair is not a transformed tree. > > > > > > A tree is not a transformed seed. > > > > > > An ocean is not a transformed river. > > > > > > An adult is not a transfommed child. > > > > > > Nothing is ever transformed. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > from this piece of work we can fairly well be certain that toombarus > > never change, or are transformed. a toombaru remains a toombaru for > > ever and ever and ever.. > > > > > Does a river ever change? yes > Is there such a thing as a river? no > Is a river change itself? of course > Does it become ocean? no > Was it ever separated from the ocean? no > > > ...even in Neverland.when the toombaru is > > gone that will be something else, and that something else will be > > itself, and not itself transformed toombaru. > > > > Yes.....nicely put. > > In order for some'thing' to be what it is.....there would have to be > a frozen, distinct moment in which that could occur. > > There are no things. > > There are no moments. > > Everything is flowing into everything. > > > > > toombaru I concur 100%, except for the flowing.......there is nothing that flows nor flowing bechancing... there is nothing discrete... nor anything concrete.....but there is the COMPLETE.......It's a Wonderful Life......whatever-the-hell it is.......and I don't know how I know that nor really what it is that I know, nor even who or what 'I' AM.....but oh what a wonderful feeling.......this reeling in Unknown spleandor. .........bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2006 Report Share Posted July 30, 2006 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A butterfly is not a transformed caccoon. > > > > > > > > A chair is not a transformed tree. > > > > > > > > A tree is not a transformed seed. > > > > > > > > An ocean is not a transformed river. > > > > > > > > An adult is not a transfommed child. > > > > > > > > Nothing is ever transformed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > from this piece of work we can fairly well be certain that > toombarus > > > never change, or are transformed. a toombaru remains a toombaru > for > > > ever and ever and ever.. > > > > > > > > > > Does a river ever change? > > > yes > > > > Is there such a thing as a river? > > > no > > > > Is a river change itself? > > > > of course > > > > Does it become ocean? > > > > no > > > > > > Was it ever separated from the ocean? > > > > no > > > > > > ...even in Neverland.when the toombaru is > > > gone that will be something else, and that something else will be > > > itself, and not itself transformed toombaru. > > > > > > > > Yes.....nicely put. > > > > In order for some'thing' to be what it is.....there would have to > be > > a frozen, distinct moment in which that could occur. > > > > There are no things. > > > > There are no moments. > > > > Everything is flowing into everything. > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > I concur 100%, except for the flowing.......there is nothing that > flows nor flowing bechancing... there is nothing discrete... nor > anything concrete.....but there is the COMPLETE.......It's a > Wonderful Life......whatever-the-hell it is.......and I don't know > how I know that nor really what it is that I know, nor even who or > what 'I' AM.....but oh what a wonderful feeling.......this reeling in > Unknown spleandor. > > .........bob > " Flowing " is the only word that I can think of. Perhaps.......it is the liquid movement of the thought stream that comes up with the flowing concept. But you are right.....there would have to be 'things' to 'flow'. I think.......Bob....that we have doddered up to the edge of conceptual thought.....and you are right......It is all so very wonderfully mysterious. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2006 Report Share Posted July 30, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > > > > A butterfly is not a transformed caccoon. > > A chair is not a transformed tree. > > A tree is not a transformed seed. > > An ocean is not a transformed river. > > An adult is not a transfommed child. > > Nothing is ever transformed. > > toombaru Been reading Dogen? Richard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2006 Report Share Posted July 30, 2006 Nisargadatta , " Richard " <richarkar wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > A butterfly is not a transformed caccoon. > > > > A chair is not a transformed tree. > > > > A tree is not a transformed seed. > > > > An ocean is not a transformed river. > > > > An adult is not a transfommed child. > > > > Nothing is ever transformed. > > > > toombaru > > > Been reading Dogen? > > Richard > within the one exists the seed and the mighty oak the caccoon and gassomer wings a river in its quest to return to sea the embryo; her tears and laughter, her feathers and albumen yes, nothing is ever transformed on a big old comfortable chair. ;-) hugs Toomie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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