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A butterfly is not a transformed caccoon.

 

A chair is not a transformed tree.

 

A tree is not a transformed seed.

 

An ocean is not a transformed river.

 

An adult is not a transfommed child.

 

Nothing is ever transformed.

 

 

 

toombaru

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Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote:

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> A butterfly is not a transformed caccoon.

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> A chair is not a transformed tree.

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> A tree is not a transformed seed.

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> An ocean is not a transformed river.

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> An adult is not a transfommed child.

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> Nothing is ever transformed.

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> toombaru

>

 

 

yes, there's a clarity in discontinuity

 

we kneel in awe before the executioner

 

but the heart weaves continuity

 

and before our death we cry mother

 

....

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Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain

wrote:

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>

>

>

> A butterfly is not a transformed caccoon.

>

> A chair is not a transformed tree.

>

> A tree is not a transformed seed.

>

> An ocean is not a transformed river.

>

> An adult is not a transfommed child.

>

> Nothing is ever transformed.

>

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> toombaru

 

 

from this piece of work we can fairly well be certain that toombarus

never change, or are transformed. a toombaru remains a toombaru for

ever and ever and ever.....even in Neverland.when the toombaru is

gone that will be something else, and that something else will be

itself, and not itself transformed toombaru.

 

.........bob (the one and only untransformed and unreformed bob)

also not bob.......

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Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111

wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@>

> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > A butterfly is not a transformed caccoon.

> >

> > A chair is not a transformed tree.

> >

> > A tree is not a transformed seed.

> >

> > An ocean is not a transformed river.

> >

> > An adult is not a transfommed child.

> >

> > Nothing is ever transformed.

> >

> >

> >

> > toombaru

>

>

> from this piece of work we can fairly well be certain that toombarus

> never change, or are transformed. a toombaru remains a toombaru for

> ever and ever and ever..

 

 

 

 

Does a river ever change?

 

Is there such a thing as a river?

 

Is a river change itself?

 

Does it become ocean?

 

Was it ever separated from the ocean?

 

 

 

....even in Neverland.when the toombaru is

> gone that will be something else, and that something else will be

> itself, and not itself transformed toombaru.

 

 

 

Yes.....nicely put.

 

In order for some'thing' to be what it is.....there would have to be

a frozen, distinct moment in which that could occur.

 

There are no things.

 

There are no moments.

 

Everything is flowing into everything.

 

 

 

 

toombaru

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Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain

wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > A butterfly is not a transformed caccoon.

> > >

> > > A chair is not a transformed tree.

> > >

> > > A tree is not a transformed seed.

> > >

> > > An ocean is not a transformed river.

> > >

> > > An adult is not a transfommed child.

> > >

> > > Nothing is ever transformed.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > toombaru

> >

> >

> > from this piece of work we can fairly well be certain that

toombarus

> > never change, or are transformed. a toombaru remains a toombaru

for

> > ever and ever and ever..

>

>

>

>

> Does a river ever change?

 

 

yes

 

 

> Is there such a thing as a river?

 

 

no

 

 

> Is a river change itself?

 

 

 

of course

 

 

> Does it become ocean?

 

 

 

no

 

 

 

 

> Was it ever separated from the ocean?

 

 

 

no

>

>

> ...even in Neverland.when the toombaru is

> > gone that will be something else, and that something else will be

> > itself, and not itself transformed toombaru.

>

>

>

> Yes.....nicely put.

>

> In order for some'thing' to be what it is.....there would have to

be

> a frozen, distinct moment in which that could occur.

>

> There are no things.

>

> There are no moments.

>

> Everything is flowing into everything.

>

>

>

>

> toombaru

 

 

I concur 100%, except for the flowing.......there is nothing that

flows nor flowing bechancing... there is nothing discrete... nor

anything concrete.....but there is the COMPLETE.......It's a

Wonderful Life......whatever-the-hell it is.......and I don't know

how I know that nor really what it is that I know, nor even who or

what 'I' AM.....but oh what a wonderful feeling.......this reeling in

Unknown spleandor.

 

.........bob

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Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111

wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > A butterfly is not a transformed caccoon.

> > > >

> > > > A chair is not a transformed tree.

> > > >

> > > > A tree is not a transformed seed.

> > > >

> > > > An ocean is not a transformed river.

> > > >

> > > > An adult is not a transfommed child.

> > > >

> > > > Nothing is ever transformed.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > toombaru

> > >

> > >

> > > from this piece of work we can fairly well be certain that

> toombarus

> > > never change, or are transformed. a toombaru remains a toombaru

> for

> > > ever and ever and ever..

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Does a river ever change?

>

>

> yes

>

>

> > Is there such a thing as a river?

>

>

> no

>

>

> > Is a river change itself?

>

>

>

> of course

>

>

> > Does it become ocean?

>

>

>

> no

>

>

>

>

> > Was it ever separated from the ocean?

>

>

>

> no

> >

> >

> > ...even in Neverland.when the toombaru is

> > > gone that will be something else, and that something else will be

> > > itself, and not itself transformed toombaru.

> >

> >

> >

> > Yes.....nicely put.

> >

> > In order for some'thing' to be what it is.....there would have to

> be

> > a frozen, distinct moment in which that could occur.

> >

> > There are no things.

> >

> > There are no moments.

> >

> > Everything is flowing into everything.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > toombaru

>

>

> I concur 100%, except for the flowing.......there is nothing that

> flows nor flowing bechancing... there is nothing discrete... nor

> anything concrete.....but there is the COMPLETE.......It's a

> Wonderful Life......whatever-the-hell it is.......and I don't know

> how I know that nor really what it is that I know, nor even who or

> what 'I' AM.....but oh what a wonderful feeling.......this reeling in

> Unknown spleandor.

>

> .........bob

>

 

 

 

 

" Flowing " is the only word that I can think of.

 

 

Perhaps.......it is the liquid movement of the thought stream that

comes up with the flowing concept.

 

 

 

But you are right.....there would have to be 'things' to 'flow'.

 

I think.......Bob....that we have doddered up to the edge of

conceptual thought.....and you are right......It is all so very

wonderfully mysterious.

 

 

 

toombaru

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Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain

wrote:

>

>

>

>

> A butterfly is not a transformed caccoon.

>

> A chair is not a transformed tree.

>

> A tree is not a transformed seed.

>

> An ocean is not a transformed river.

>

> An adult is not a transfommed child.

>

> Nothing is ever transformed.

>

> toombaru

 

 

Been reading Dogen?

 

Richard

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Nisargadatta , " Richard " <richarkar wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@>

> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > A butterfly is not a transformed caccoon.

> >

> > A chair is not a transformed tree.

> >

> > A tree is not a transformed seed.

> >

> > An ocean is not a transformed river.

> >

> > An adult is not a transfommed child.

> >

> > Nothing is ever transformed.

> >

> > toombaru

>

>

> Been reading Dogen?

>

> Richard

>

 

 

within the one

exists

the seed and the mighty oak

the caccoon and gassomer wings

a river in its quest to return to sea

the embryo; her tears and laughter,

her feathers and albumen

 

yes,

nothing

is ever transformed

 

on a big old comfortable chair. ;-)

 

 

hugs Toomie

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