Guest guest Posted August 2, 2006 Report Share Posted August 2, 2006 In my dream last night, I went from person to person telling them that we were all one. They didn't seem to understand that I was trying to help them. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2006 Report Share Posted August 2, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > > > > In my dream last night, I went from person to person telling them that > we were all one. > > They didn't seem to understand that I was trying to help them. > > > > toombaru > in dreams of tombs i have wandered through, i am ageless, as if to an ever-present and ever-distant memory-- a star of Bethlehem a nativity story of how dreams come true in a long dark night, of Love neverending of my neverending Love, in dreams of dreams unfathomable as stars falling into the deepest well a lonely heart, a lonely planet, ascends boundless shores meet sand, meet wave and sky and so the shorebird is lifted, as if by grace... anna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2006 Report Share Posted August 2, 2006 Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > In my dream last night, I went from person to person telling them > that > > we were all one. > > > > They didn't seem to understand that I was trying to help them. > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > in dreams of tombs > i have wandered through, > i am ageless, > as if to an ever-present > and ever-distant memory-- > > a star of Bethlehem > a nativity story > of how dreams come true > in a long dark night, > of Love neverending > of my neverending Love, > in dreams of dreams > unfathomable > as stars falling into > the deepest well > > a lonely heart, > a lonely planet, > ascends > boundless > shores meet sand, > meet wave and sky > > and so the shorebird is lifted, > as if by grace... > > > > anna's bones > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2006 Report Share Posted August 2, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > > > > In my dream last night, I went from person to person telling them that > we were all one. > > They didn't seem to understand that I was trying to help them. > > > > toombaru > I must be dreaming.who are all those 'others' that 'you' go 'person to person' and tell anything? who is there to understand? the Understanding is complete and singular.but dreams are funny little devils aren't they.I'm not quite sure who it is I'm attemting to tell this to, or even who the dude that is saying that this is so. just so. .bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2006 Report Share Posted August 2, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > > > > In my dream last night, I went from person to person telling them that > we were all one. > > They didn't seem to understand that I was trying to help them. > > > > toombaru > except for me, remember? .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2006 Report Share Posted August 2, 2006 > > In my dream last night, I went from person to person telling them that > we were all one. > > They didn't seem to understand that I was trying to help them. > > > > toombaru it is not something that can be *said*... why do you always insist in trying to take another from zero to infinity in one step? why can you not see the value in helping one find just a little more peace, to taste just a little more silence? an acorn does not become an oak tree overnight. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart wrote: > > > > > > In my dream last night, I went from person to person telling them that > > we were all one. > > > > They didn't seem to understand that I was trying to help them. > > > > > > > > toombaru > > it is not something that can be *said*... > > why do you always insist in trying to take another > from zero to infinity in one step? > > why can you not see the value in helping one find > just a little more peace, to taste just a little > more silence? > > an acorn does not become an oak tree overnight. > > Bill > The 'circle up over the orb' does not occur in time. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > In my dream last night, I went from person to person telling them that > > > we were all one. > > > > > > They didn't seem to understand that I was trying to help them. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > it is not something that can be *said*... > > > > why do you always insist in trying to take another > > from zero to infinity in one step? > > > > why can you not see the value in helping one find > > just a little more peace, to taste just a little > > more silence? > > > > an acorn does not become an oak tree overnight. > > > > Bill > > > > > > The 'circle up over the orb' does not occur in time. toombaru > your " circle up over the orb " ... a step from zero to infinity... hence not a reply to questions posed. and besides, what *is* in time? Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In my dream last night, I went from person to person telling > them that > > > > we were all one. > > > > > > > > They didn't seem to understand that I was trying to help them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > it is not something that can be *said*... > > > > > > why do you always insist in trying to take another > > > from zero to infinity in one step? > > > Because it's not a step. It is the total annihilation of the supposed self. It has no relationship to that which came before it. > > > why can you not see the value in helping one find > > > just a little more peace, to taste just a little > > > more silence? If peace and silence are your goal......you are in the wrong caravan. > > > > > > an acorn does not become an oak tree overnight. > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > We are not speaking of acorns and oaks. > > The 'circle up over the orb' does not occur in time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > your " circle up over the orb " ... > a step from zero to infinity... > > hence not a reply to questions posed. > > and besides, what *is* in time? > > Bill > Time is an assuption that occurs within the bicameral mind....a result of the triad belief of past-present-future. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In my dream last night, I went from person to person telling > them that > > > > we were all one. > > > > > > > > They didn't seem to understand that I was trying to help them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > it is not something that can be *said*... > > > > > > why do you always insist in trying to take another > > > from zero to infinity in one step? > > > Because it's not a step. It is the total annihilation of the supposed self. It has no relationship to that which came before it. > > > why can you not see the value in helping one find > > > just a little more peace, to taste just a little > > > more silence? If peace and silence are your goal......you are in the wrong caravan. > > > > > > an acorn does not become an oak tree overnight. > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > We are not speaking of acorns and oaks. > > The 'circle up over the orb' does not occur in time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > your " circle up over the orb " ... > a step from zero to infinity... > > hence not a reply to questions posed. > > and besides, what *is* in time? > > Bill > Time is an assuption that occurs within the bicameral mind....a result of the triad belief of past-present-future. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In my dream last night, I went from person to person telling > > them that > > > > > we were all one. > > > > > > > > > > They didn't seem to understand that I was trying to help them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > it is not something that can be *said*... > > > > > > > > why do you always insist in trying to take another > > > > from zero to infinity in one step? > > > > > > > Because it's not a step. > > It is the total annihilation of the supposed self. > > It has no relationship to that which came before it. > > > > > > > > > why can you not see the value in helping one find > > > > just a little more peace, to taste just a little > > > > more silence? > > > If peace and silence are your goal......you are in the wrong caravan. > > > > > > > an acorn does not become an oak tree overnight. > > > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We are not speaking of acorns and oaks. > > The 'circle up over the orb' does not occur in time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > your " circle up over the orb " ... > > a step from zero to infinity... > > > > hence not a reply to questions posed. > > > > and besides, what *is* in time? > > > > Bill > > > > > > Time is an assuption that occurs within the bicameral mind....a result > of the triad belief of past-present-future. > > > > > > toombaru > only a tomb knows timelessness... knows how acorns speak in memory of a greak oak hush, my Love the caravan leaves without us... anna's bones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 <snip> > > > > > > > > why do you always insist in trying to take another > > > > from zero to infinity in one step? > > > > > > > Because it's not a step. > > It is the total annihilation of the supposed self. > > It has no relationship to that which came before it. there never was a self in the first place, and you are talking about the annihilation of one... how do you manage that? > > > > > why can you not see the value in helping one find > > > > just a little more peace, to taste just a little > > > > more silence? > > > If peace and silence are your goal......you are in the wrong caravan. > who said they were anyone's goal? you don't see how you read stuff in... one can comfort a friend in distress, for example, without being involved in time, in the existence of any beings/entities, none of it. there can be an appointment made to meet a friend for lunch -- at a certain time -- without being involved in the existence of beings, without being involved in time. if each moment is lived with complete immediacy then there is no time, regardless of what *apparently* goes on. <snip> > > > what *is* in time? > Time is an assuption that occurs within the bicameral mind....a result > of the triad belief of past-present-future. > the question wasn't " what is time " ... the question was " was is in time " ... why all the fuss about time when nothing is in time anyhow? Bill > > > > toombaru > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > > > > In my dream last night, I went from person to person telling them that > we were all one. > > They didn't seem to understand that I was trying to help them. > > > > toombaru LOL > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > > > > In my dream last night, I went from person to person telling them that > we were all one. > > They didn't seem to understand that I was trying to help them. > > > > toombaru > Why would there be a need to tell anyone, " We are all one? " Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > In my dream last night, I went from person to person telling them that > > we were all one. > > > > They didn't seem to understand that I was trying to help them. > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > Why would there be a need to tell anyone, > " We are all one? " > > Bill good point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In my dream last night, I went from person to person telling > > them that > > > > > we were all one. > > > > > > > > > > They didn't seem to understand that I was trying to help them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > it is not something that can be *said*... > > > > > > > > why do you always insist in trying to take another > > > > from zero to infinity in one step? > > > > > > > Because it's not a step. > > It is the total annihilation of the supposed self. > > It has no relationship to that which came before it. > > > > > > > > > why can you not see the value in helping one find > > > > just a little more peace, to taste just a little > > > > more silence? > > > If peace and silence are your goal......you are in the wrong caravan. > > > > > > > an acorn does not become an oak tree overnight. > > > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We are not speaking of acorns and oaks. > > The 'circle up over the orb' does not occur in time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > your " circle up over the orb " ... > > a step from zero to infinity... > > > > hence not a reply to questions posed. > > > > and besides, what *is* in time? > > > > Bill > > > > > > Time is an assuption that occurs within the bicameral mind....a result > of the triad belief of past-present-future. > > > > > > toombaru > Aye.....a triad belief run on and by the unholy trinity: me-mysef-I ....bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In my dream last night, I went from person to person telling them > that > > > we were all one. > > > > > > They didn't seem to understand that I was trying to help them. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > Why would there be a need to tell anyone, > > " We are all one? " > > > > Bill > > > > > good point > come on guys, that's all we ever do here, every way shape and form, every word we write, F*** YEAH!!! * *that's an attitude I have re-developed since my last attending and giving a poetry reading in Ohioburg, one poet, on his tirade about not being able to use the F-word at Borders readings, wrote and spoke this poem which was great and after every point he said F*** YEAH! Even the 'innocent' bookstore patrons, who were walking through our circle of poets on their way out said " F*** Yeah!!! Truth is like that. We know it when we know it. ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In my dream last night, I went from person to person telling > them > > that > > > > we were all one. > > > > > > > > They didn't seem to understand that I was trying to help them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > Why would there be a need to tell anyone, > > > " We are all one? " > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > > good point > > > > > > come on guys, that's all we ever do here, every way shape and form, > every word we write, > > F*** YEAH!!! * > > > *that's an attitude I have re-developed since my last attending and > giving a poetry reading in Ohioburg, one poet, on his tirade about > not being able to use the F-word at Borders readings, wrote and > spoke this poem which was great and after every point he said F*** > YEAH! Even the 'innocent' bookstore patrons, who were walking > through our circle of poets on their way out said " F*** Yeah!!! > Truth is like that. We know it when we know it. ;-) ain't that the F****** truth! ..bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In my dream last night, I went from person to person telling > them > > that > > > > we were all one. > > > > > > > > They didn't seem to understand that I was trying to help them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > Why would there be a need to tell anyone, > > > " We are all one? " > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > > good point > > > > > > come on guys, that's all we ever do here, every way shape and form, > every word we write, > > F*** YEAH!!! * > > > *that's an attitude I have re-developed since my last attending and > giving a poetry reading in Ohioburg, one poet, on his tirade about > not being able to use the F-word at Borders readings, wrote and > spoke this poem which was great and after every point he said F*** > YEAH! Even the 'innocent' bookstore patrons, who were walking > through our circle of poets on their way out said " F*** Yeah!!! > Truth is like that. We know it when we know it. ;-) when one know the truth.... there is no need to explain it....to a whole imaginary world... (except....one is dreaming to know it) Marc > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " > <pliantheart@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In my dream last night, I went from person to person telling > > > them that > > > > > > we were all one. > > > > > > > > > > > > They didn't seem to understand that I was trying to help > them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > it is not something that can be *said*... > > > > > > > > > > why do you always insist in trying to take another > > > > > from zero to infinity in one step? > > > > > > > > > > > Because it's not a step. > > > > It is the total annihilation of the supposed self. > > > > It has no relationship to that which came before it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > why can you not see the value in helping one find > > > > > just a little more peace, to taste just a little > > > > > more silence? > > > > > > If peace and silence are your goal......you are in the wrong > caravan. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > an acorn does not become an oak tree overnight. > > > > > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We are not speaking of acorns and oaks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The 'circle up over the orb' does not occur in time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > your " circle up over the orb " ... > > > a step from zero to infinity... > > > > > > hence not a reply to questions posed. > > > > > > and besides, what *is* in time? > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > > > Time is an assuption that occurs within the bicameral mind....a > result > > of the triad belief of past-present-future. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > Aye.....a triad belief run on and by the unholy trinity: me-mysef-I > > > ....bob > it is only urgency that speaks in and of unholiness in timelessness everything is sacred including the least holy .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 > > > Why would there be a need to tell anyone, > > > " We are all one? " > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > > good point > > > > > > come on guys, that's all we ever do here, every way shape and form, > every word we write, no, not all that's ever done here... because occasionally something actually gets said here, something fresh... and when that happens it never is " we are all one " ... when's the last time someone said " we are all one " and you went, " Oh! Wow! " Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " > > <pliantheart@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In my dream last night, I went from person to person telling > > > > them that > > > > > > > we were all one. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They didn't seem to understand that I was trying to help > > them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > it is not something that can be *said*... > > > > > > > > > > > > why do you always insist in trying to take another > > > > > > from zero to infinity in one step? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Because it's not a step. > > > > > > It is the total annihilation of the supposed self. > > > > > > It has no relationship to that which came before it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > why can you not see the value in helping one find > > > > > > just a little more peace, to taste just a little > > > > > > more silence? > > > > > > > > > If peace and silence are your goal......you are in the wrong > > caravan. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > an acorn does not become an oak tree overnight. > > > > > > > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We are not speaking of acorns and oaks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The 'circle up over the orb' does not occur in time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > your " circle up over the orb " ... > > > > a step from zero to infinity... > > > > > > > > hence not a reply to questions posed. > > > > > > > > and besides, what *is* in time? > > > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Time is an assuption that occurs within the bicameral mind....a > > result > > > of the triad belief of past-present-future. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > Aye.....a triad belief run on and by the unholy trinity: me-mysef- I > > > > > > ....bob > > > > > it is only urgency that speaks in and of unholiness > > in timelessness everything is sacred > > including the least holy > > > ... > I spake not from nor about the timeless nor timlessness... I was speaking from the viewpoint and standpoint of one of us poor bastards lost in this one-parented(concept)child called the world of men. I think you're still among us. nothing is urgent in the message.else we would long ago have heeded the call to 'come home' and not been yet bothered enough to sit and write on these lists all about that other shore(that sits right here) in such songs of rhapsody. in High Indifference..as dark and unenlightened as this sounds, there is neither sacred nor unsacred.as it is with all dualities of conceptual thought.as it was in the beginning, is now, and forever shall be. .......bob(the least holy) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " > <pliantheart@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " > <lastrain@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " > > > <pliantheart@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In my dream last night, I went from person to person > telling > > > > > them that > > > > > > > > we were all one. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They didn't seem to understand that I was trying to > help > > > them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it is not something that can be *said*... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > why do you always insist in trying to take another > > > > > > > from zero to infinity in one step? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Because it's not a step. > > > > > > > > It is the total annihilation of the supposed self. > > > > > > > > It has no relationship to that which came before it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > why can you not see the value in helping one find > > > > > > > just a little more peace, to taste just a little > > > > > > > more silence? > > > > > > > > > > > > If peace and silence are your goal......you are in the wrong > > > caravan. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > an acorn does not become an oak tree overnight. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We are not speaking of acorns and oaks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The 'circle up over the orb' does not occur in time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > your " circle up over the orb " ... > > > > > a step from zero to infinity... > > > > > > > > > > hence not a reply to questions posed. > > > > > > > > > > and besides, what *is* in time? > > > > > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Time is an assuption that occurs within the bicameral mind....a > > > result > > > > of the triad belief of past-present-future. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > Aye.....a triad belief run on and by the unholy trinity: me-mysef- > I > > > > > > > > > ....bob > > > > > > > > > it is only urgency that speaks in and of unholiness > > > > in timelessness everything is sacred > > > > including the least holy > > > > > > ... > > > I spake not from nor about the timeless nor timlessness... I was > speaking from the viewpoint and standpoint of one of us poor bastards > lost in this one-parented(concept)child called the world of men. I > think you're still among us. nothing is urgent in the message.else we > would long ago have heeded the call to 'come home' and not been yet > bothered enough to sit and write on these lists all about that other > shore(that sits right here) in such songs of rhapsody. in High > Indifference..as dark and unenlightened as this sounds, there is > neither sacred nor unsacred.as it is with all dualities of conceptual > thought.as it was in the beginning, is now, and forever shall be. > > .......bob(the least holy) > ok. let's talk. you and me: you know that sometimes we are filled with a sense of urgency, and sometimes we are filled with a sense of eternity. sometimes we can just look in front of ourselves and see a choice, a fork in the road . when i choose to drop that sense of urgency completely, and submerge myself in serenity all is sacred. when i stay urgent, most is not. that's all i'm talkin! rockin robin .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " > > <pliantheart@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " > > <lastrain@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " > > > > <pliantheart@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In my dream last night, I went from person to person > > telling > > > > > > them that > > > > > > > > > we were all one. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They didn't seem to understand that I was trying to > > help > > > > them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it is not something that can be *said*... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > why do you always insist in trying to take another > > > > > > > > from zero to infinity in one step? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Because it's not a step. > > > > > > > > > > It is the total annihilation of the supposed self. > > > > > > > > > > It has no relationship to that which came before it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > why can you not see the value in helping one find > > > > > > > > just a little more peace, to taste just a little > > > > > > > > more silence? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If peace and silence are your goal......you are in the wrong > > > > caravan. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > an acorn does not become an oak tree overnight. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We are not speaking of acorns and oaks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The 'circle up over the orb' does not occur in time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > your " circle up over the orb " ... > > > > > > a step from zero to infinity... > > > > > > > > > > > > hence not a reply to questions posed. > > > > > > > > > > > > and besides, what *is* in time? > > > > > > > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Time is an assuption that occurs within the bicameral mind....a > > > > result > > > > > of the triad belief of past-present-future. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > Aye.....a triad belief run on and by the unholy trinity: me- mysef- > > I > > > > > > > > > > > > ....bob > > > > > > > > > > > > > it is only urgency that speaks in and of unholiness > > > > > > in timelessness everything is sacred > > > > > > including the least holy > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > I spake not from nor about the timeless nor timlessness... I was > > speaking from the viewpoint and standpoint of one of us poor bastards > > lost in this one-parented(concept)child called the world of men. I > > think you're still among us. nothing is urgent in the message.else we > > would long ago have heeded the call to 'come home' and not been yet > > bothered enough to sit and write on these lists all about that other > > shore(that sits right here) in such songs of rhapsody. in High > > Indifference..as dark and unenlightened as this sounds, there is > > neither sacred nor unsacred.as it is with all dualities of conceptual > > thought.as it was in the beginning, is now, and forever shall be. > > > > .......bob(the least holy) > > > > > > ok. let's talk. you and me: > > you know that sometimes we are filled with a sense of urgency, and > sometimes we are filled with a sense of eternity. > > sometimes we can just look in front of ourselves and see > > a choice, a fork in the road . > > when i choose to drop that sense of urgency completely, and submerge > myself in serenity > > > all is sacred. when i stay urgent, most is not. > > that's all i'm talkin! > > rockin > > robin > > > > > ... > gotcha and I agree.that's all I'm sayin' too. here in the Land of Nod, sometimes were up and sometimes were down.sometimes were right and sometimes were wrong....how could we have a world of different folks and thougts and ideas and feelings without the dualities.even though fundamentally none of them pertain to Truth. all we can do as best as we can is to try and be like in this song.. from Alicia Keys' tune: " When You Really Love Someone " " So love you when you're right Love you when you're wrong Love you when you're weak Love you when you're strong Take you higher in a world that you're feeling low He's giving you his last, as he's thinking of your first Giving comfort when he's thinking that you're hurt That's what it's like when you really really love someone I'm telling ya, I'm telling ya.......... " ...bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: In my dream last night, I went from person to person telling them that we were all one. They didn't seem to understand that I was trying to help them. Hi toombaru, try again, use different words, don't give up. Lulu See the all-new, redesigned .com. Check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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