Guest guest Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " > <iietsa@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " > > > > <iietsa@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " > > > > > > <iietsa@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is no good and there is no bad... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but somehow...there is a deep feeling to > give > > > > love > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > everything... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that little bird in the cage...why is it in > > > > > > > there...some > > > > > > > > > say > > > > > > > > > > > > > because > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of love...but the love I know is > freedom...not > > > > to > > > > > > put a > > > > > > > > > bird > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > > cage > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for selfish reasons...somehow selfishness > is > > > > love > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > > well...but > > > > > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > love is not fully in light...its kind of > dark > > > > > > > love...now > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > bird > > > > > > > > > > > > > > itself is not what is beyond...but > anyway...why > > > > > > > imprison > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > bird > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cage...whats the meaning...there is nothing > > > > > > wrong...but > > > > > > > > > > whats > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > meaning...I mean if all is love...then why > not > > > > let > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > bird > > > > > > > > > > fly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > freely...why do human selfishness have to > > > > interfere > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > bird.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > on this list there sometimes seem to be a > kind > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > indifference > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bird...like... I dont give a monkeys ass if > its > > > > in > > > > > a > > > > > > > > cage > > > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > > > > > not...its > > > > > > > > > > > > > > all a dreambubble anyway... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this seeing is what I would call...love not > > > > fully > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > light... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....speak freely...no fear... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > somebody in here who keep birds in cages.....? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fear might make people lie.... > > > > > > > > > > > > and say " there is no somebody " > > > > > > > > > > > > " all is just dream " and on an on... > > > > > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > please tell me.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what are you " fighting for " ....? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (if not for....your inner peace and freedom....) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some people can't handle some critics..... > > > > > > > > > > > normally this are exactly the same people....who > have > > > > > > endless > > > > > > > > > > > expections to themself....and so...to " others " to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > let the birds fly....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not fighting for....? > > > > > > > > > > peace and freedom are mere words for the natural > > > state... > > > > > > > > > > I am only asking...why not just taste the natural > > > state ? > > > > > > > > > > ...instead of trying to satisfy the selfish hunger > by > > > > doing > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > million different things...like putting birds in a > > > > cage... > > > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > everything done in duality....including writing > > > > > > > > > this...EVERYTHING...is selfish....done in the name of > and > > > > to > > > > > > > > satisfy > > > > > > > > > selfish desire. as long as one is alive and living as > an > > > > > > > > individual > > > > > > > > > life, all is vanity. the natural state however is one > > > > > of " High > > > > > > > > > Indifference " , wherein and whereby not good nor bad, > > > > freedom > > > > > > nor > > > > > > > > > slavery, right nor wrong, love nor hate, indeed and > in > > > > > fact,no > > > > > > > > > duality obtains.This I have been told and this I > believe > > > > and > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > degree that I am able, I intuit. that this is > a 'dark > > > > > > saying'to > > > > > > > > our > > > > > > > > > limited thought and feeling,there can be no doubt. > this > > > > state > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > condition is one of utter incomprehensibility to the > > > > divided > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > seperate self. and until the Father and Son, and all > that > > > > is > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > ONE, > > > > > > > > > it appears as utter foolishness and > impossible....Truth > > > is > > > > > > absent > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > unknown here among the community of lost souls. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ..bob > > > > > > > > > .......bob > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in short.... > > > > > > > > everything you do is selfish... > > > > > > > > high indifference is beyond... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > then... > > > > > > > > why do.... > > > > > > > > why not just be high indifference... > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no the High Indifference is not beyond nor above nor > > > > impossible > > > > > to > > > > > > > perceive. It merely goes unrecognised. If it was easily > > > > > > > obtainable...this recognition of 'what is alredy the > case', > > > > there > > > > > > > would have been no presentations in life of spiritual > > > teachers > > > > > nor > > > > > > > teachings.and you and I writing back and forth on a list > > > > > > pertaining > > > > > > > to the nondual truth, would not have come to pass > either.the > > > > Way > > > > > > is > > > > > > > not difficult.just narrow.and requires certain unselfish > > > > > behaviour > > > > > > > patterns and beliefs, that we as the creatures of selfish > > > > habits > > > > > > that > > > > > > > we are, find hard to exercise in thought or deed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ......bob > > > > > > > > > > > > > the unselfish is only hard for the selfish... > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > just who among us here is not? > > > > > > > > > > ..bob > > > > > > > > > selfish ? > > > > > > > that's the question yes. > > > > > > > > > i.e., C flat > > or D major? > > > > > > ... > > > it's a twelve-tone piece with no defined key. > the key is always defined as Space .... 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Guest guest Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " > > <iietsa@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " > > > > > <iietsa@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > > > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In Nisargadatta , " iietsa " > > > > > > > <iietsa@> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is no good and there is no bad... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but somehow...there is a deep feeling to > > give > > > > > love > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > everything... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that little bird in the cage...why is it in > > > > > > > > there...some > > > > > > > > > > say > > > > > > > > > > > > > > because > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of love...but the love I know is > > freedom...not > > > > > to > > > > > > > put a > > > > > > > > > > bird > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cage > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for selfish reasons...somehow selfishness > > is > > > > > love > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > > > well...but > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > love is not fully in light...its kind of > > dark > > > > > > > > love...now > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > bird > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > itself is not what is beyond...but > > anyway...why > > > > > > > > imprison > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > bird > > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cage...whats the meaning...there is nothing > > > > > > > wrong...but > > > > > > > > > > > whats > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > meaning...I mean if all is love...then why > > not > > > > > let > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > bird > > > > > > > > > > > fly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > freely...why do human selfishness have to > > > > > interfere > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > bird.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > on this list there sometimes seem to be a > > kind > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > indifference > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bird...like... I dont give a monkeys ass if > > its > > > > > in > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > cage > > > > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not...its > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > all a dreambubble anyway... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this seeing is what I would call...love not > > > > > fully > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > light... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....speak freely...no fear... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > somebody in here who keep birds in cages.....? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fear might make people lie.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > and say " there is no somebody " > > > > > > > > > > > > > " all is just dream " and on an on... > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > please tell me.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what are you " fighting for " ....? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (if not for....your inner peace and freedom....) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some people can't handle some critics..... > > > > > > > > > > > > normally this are exactly the same people....who > > have > > > > > > > endless > > > > > > > > > > > > expections to themself....and so...to " others " to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > let the birds fly....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not fighting for....? > > > > > > > > > > > peace and freedom are mere words for the natural > > > > state... > > > > > > > > > > > I am only asking...why not just taste the natural > > > > state ? > > > > > > > > > > > ...instead of trying to satisfy the selfish hunger > > by > > > > > doing > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > million different things...like putting birds in a > > > > > cage... > > > > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > everything done in duality....including writing > > > > > > > > > > this...EVERYTHING...is selfish....done in the name of > > and > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > satisfy > > > > > > > > > > selfish desire. as long as one is alive and living as > > an > > > > > > > > > individual > > > > > > > > > > life, all is vanity. the natural state however is one > > > > > > of " High > > > > > > > > > > Indifference " , wherein and whereby not good nor bad, > > > > > freedom > > > > > > > nor > > > > > > > > > > slavery, right nor wrong, love nor hate, indeed and > > in > > > > > > fact,no > > > > > > > > > > duality obtains.This I have been told and this I > > believe > > > > > and > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > degree that I am able, I intuit. that this is > > a 'dark > > > > > > > saying'to > > > > > > > > > our > > > > > > > > > > limited thought and feeling,there can be no doubt. > > this > > > > > state > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > condition is one of utter incomprehensibility to the > > > > > divided > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > seperate self. and until the Father and Son, and all > > that > > > > > is > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > ONE, > > > > > > > > > > it appears as utter foolishness and > > impossible....Truth > > > > is > > > > > > > absent > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > unknown here among the community of lost souls. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ..bob > > > > > > > > > > .......bob > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in short.... > > > > > > > > > everything you do is selfish... > > > > > > > > > high indifference is beyond... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > then... > > > > > > > > > why do.... > > > > > > > > > why not just be high indifference... > > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no the High Indifference is not beyond nor above nor > > > > > impossible > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > perceive. It merely goes unrecognised. If it was easily > > > > > > > > obtainable...this recognition of 'what is alredy the > > case', > > > > > there > > > > > > > > would have been no presentations in life of spiritual > > > > teachers > > > > > > nor > > > > > > > > teachings.and you and I writing back and forth on a list > > > > > > > pertaining > > > > > > > > to the nondual truth, would not have come to pass > > either.the > > > > > Way > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > not difficult.just narrow.and requires certain unselfish > > > > > > behaviour > > > > > > > > patterns and beliefs, that we as the creatures of selfish > > > > > habits > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > we are, find hard to exercise in thought or deed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ......bob > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the unselfish is only hard for the selfish... > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > just who among us here is not? > > > > > > > > > > > > ..bob > > > > > > > > > > > selfish ? > > > > > > > > > that's the question yes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > i.e., C flat > > > or D major? > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > it's a twelve-tone piece with no defined key. > > > > the key is always defined as > > Space > > > ... > but not the key signature like C flat or D major. the signature is a constriction on and a constraining factor for the piece being composed.why Schoenberg sounds so free is he would have none of that.then he went on to constrain himself with the strict rules he invented for formatting the twelve-tone symphonies.here I elude and evade such constraints, by obeying no rules....not even the masters....a masterful stroke, wouldn't you agree. 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Guest guest Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > <Roberibus111@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " > <iietsa@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " > > > <iietsa@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " > > > > > > <iietsa@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " > > > > > > > > <iietsa@> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is no good and there is no bad... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but somehow...there is a deep feeling > to > > > give > > > > > > love > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > everything... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that little bird in the cage...why is > it in > > > > > > > > > there...some > > > > > > > > > > > say > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > because > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of love...but the love I know is > > > freedom...not > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > put a > > > > > > > > > > > bird > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cage > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for selfish reasons...somehow > selfishness > > > is > > > > > > love > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > > > > well...but > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > love is not fully in light...its kind > of > > > dark > > > > > > > > > love...now > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bird > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > itself is not what is beyond...but > > > anyway...why > > > > > > > > > imprison > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > bird > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cage...whats the meaning...there is > nothing > > > > > > > > wrong...but > > > > > > > > > > > > whats > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > meaning...I mean if all is love...then > why > > > not > > > > > > let > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > bird > > > > > > > > > > > > fly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > freely...why do human selfishness have > to > > > > > > interfere > > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bird.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > on this list there sometimes seem to be > a > > > kind > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > indifference > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bird...like... I dont give a monkeys > ass if > > > its > > > > > > in > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > cage > > > > > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not...its > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > all a dreambubble anyway... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this seeing is what I would call...love > not > > > > > > fully > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > light... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....speak freely...no fear... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > somebody in here who keep birds in > cages.....? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fear might make people lie.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and say " there is no somebody " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " all is just dream " and on an on... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > please tell me.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what are you " fighting for " ....? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (if not for....your inner peace and > freedom....) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some people can't handle some critics..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > normally this are exactly the same > people....who > > > have > > > > > > > > endless > > > > > > > > > > > > > expections to themself....and > so...to " others " to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > let the birds fly....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not fighting for....? > > > > > > > > > > > > peace and freedom are mere words for the > natural > > > > > state... > > > > > > > > > > > > I am only asking...why not just taste the > natural > > > > > state ? > > > > > > > > > > > > ...instead of trying to satisfy the selfish > hunger > > > by > > > > > > doing > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > million different things...like putting birds > in a > > > > > > cage... > > > > > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > everything done in duality....including writing > > > > > > > > > > > this...EVERYTHING...is selfish....done in the > name of > > > and > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > satisfy > > > > > > > > > > > selfish desire. as long as one is alive and > living as > > > an > > > > > > > > > > individual > > > > > > > > > > > life, all is vanity. the natural state however is > one > > > > > > > of " High > > > > > > > > > > > Indifference " , wherein and whereby not good nor > bad, > > > > > > freedom > > > > > > > > nor > > > > > > > > > > > slavery, right nor wrong, love nor hate, indeed > and > > > in > > > > > > > fact,no > > > > > > > > > > > duality obtains.This I have been told and this I > > > believe > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > degree that I am able, I intuit. that this is > > > a 'dark > > > > > > > > saying'to > > > > > > > > > > our > > > > > > > > > > > limited thought and feeling,there can be no > doubt. > > > this > > > > > > state > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > condition is one of utter incomprehensibility to > the > > > > > > divided > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > seperate self. and until the Father and Son, and > all > > > that > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > ONE, > > > > > > > > > > > it appears as utter foolishness and > > > impossible....Truth > > > > > is > > > > > > > > absent > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > unknown here among the community of lost souls. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ..bob > > > > > > > > > > > .......bob > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in short.... > > > > > > > > > > everything you do is selfish... > > > > > > > > > > high indifference is beyond... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > then... > > > > > > > > > > why do.... > > > > > > > > > > why not just be high indifference... > > > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no the High Indifference is not beyond nor above nor > > > > > > impossible > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > perceive. It merely goes unrecognised. If it was > easily > > > > > > > > > obtainable...this recognition of 'what is alredy the > > > case', > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > > would have been no presentations in life of spiritual > > > > > teachers > > > > > > > nor > > > > > > > > > teachings.and you and I writing back and forth on a > list > > > > > > > > pertaining > > > > > > > > > to the nondual truth, would not have come to pass > > > either.the > > > > > > Way > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > not difficult.just narrow.and requires certain > unselfish > > > > > > > behaviour > > > > > > > > > patterns and beliefs, that we as the creatures of > selfish > > > > > > habits > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > we are, find hard to exercise in thought or deed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ......bob > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the unselfish is only hard for the selfish... > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > just who among us here is not? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ..bob > > > > > > > > > > > > > selfish ? > > > > > > > > > > > that's the question yes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i.e., C flat > > > > or D major? > > > > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > it's a twelve-tone piece with no defined key. > > > > > > > the key is always defined as > > > > Space > > > > > > ... > > > but not the key signature like C flat or D major. the signature is a > constriction on and a constraining factor for the piece being > composed.why Schoenberg sounds so free is he would have none of > that.then he went on to constrain himself with the strict rules he > invented for formatting the twelve-tone symphonies.here I elude and > evade such constraints, by obeying no rules....not even the > masters....a masterful stroke, wouldn't you agree. > (oh, i studied all that, too. we in the boonies have to outdo the imaginary urbies) the master full give birth to the the empty lull wouldn't you? .... 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Guest guest Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > <Roberibus111@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " > > <iietsa@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " > > > > <iietsa@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > > > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In Nisargadatta , " iietsa " > > > > > > > <iietsa@> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " > > > > > > > > > <iietsa@> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is no good and there is no bad... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but somehow...there is a deep feeling > > to > > > > give > > > > > > > love > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > everything... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that little bird in the cage...why is > > it in > > > > > > > > > > there...some > > > > > > > > > > > > say > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > because > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of love...but the love I know is > > > > freedom...not > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > put a > > > > > > > > > > > > bird > > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cage > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for selfish reasons...somehow > > selfishness > > > > is > > > > > > > love > > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > > > > > well...but > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > love is not fully in light...its kind > > of > > > > dark > > > > > > > > > > love...now > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bird > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > itself is not what is beyond...but > > > > anyway...why > > > > > > > > > > imprison > > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > > bird > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cage...whats the meaning...there is > > nothing > > > > > > > > > wrong...but > > > > > > > > > > > > > whats > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > meaning...I mean if all is love...then > > why > > > > not > > > > > > > let > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > bird > > > > > > > > > > > > > fly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > freely...why do human selfishness have > > to > > > > > > > interfere > > > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bird.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > on this list there sometimes seem to be > > a > > > > kind > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > indifference > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bird...like... I dont give a monkeys > > ass if > > > > its > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > cage > > > > > > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not...its > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > all a dreambubble anyway... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this seeing is what I would call...love > > not > > > > > > > fully > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > light... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....speak freely...no fear... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > somebody in here who keep birds in > > cages.....? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fear might make people lie.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and say " there is no somebody " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " all is just dream " and on an on... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > please tell me.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what are you " fighting for " ....? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (if not for....your inner peace and > > freedom....) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some people can't handle some critics..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > normally this are exactly the same > > people....who > > > > have > > > > > > > > > endless > > > > > > > > > > > > > > expections to themself....and > > so...to " others " to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > let the birds fly....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not fighting for....? > > > > > > > > > > > > > peace and freedom are mere words for the > > natural > > > > > > state... > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am only asking...why not just taste the > > natural > > > > > > state ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...instead of trying to satisfy the selfish > > hunger > > > > by > > > > > > > doing > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > > million different things...like putting birds > > in a > > > > > > > cage... > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > everything done in duality....including writing > > > > > > > > > > > > this...EVERYTHING...is selfish....done in the > > name of > > > > and > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > satisfy > > > > > > > > > > > > selfish desire. as long as one is alive and > > living as > > > > an > > > > > > > > > > > individual > > > > > > > > > > > > life, all is vanity. the natural state however is > > one > > > > > > > > of " High > > > > > > > > > > > > Indifference " , wherein and whereby not good nor > > bad, > > > > > > > freedom > > > > > > > > > nor > > > > > > > > > > > > slavery, right nor wrong, love nor hate, indeed > > and > > > > in > > > > > > > > fact,no > > > > > > > > > > > > duality obtains.This I have been told and this I > > > > believe > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > degree that I am able, I intuit. that this is > > > > a 'dark > > > > > > > > > saying'to > > > > > > > > > > > our > > > > > > > > > > > > limited thought and feeling,there can be no > > doubt. > > > > this > > > > > > > state > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > condition is one of utter incomprehensibility to > > the > > > > > > > divided > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > seperate self. and until the Father and Son, and > > all > > > > that > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > > ONE, > > > > > > > > > > > > it appears as utter foolishness and > > > > impossible....Truth > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > absent > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > unknown here among the community of lost souls. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ..bob > > > > > > > > > > > > .......bob > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in short.... > > > > > > > > > > > everything you do is selfish... > > > > > > > > > > > high indifference is beyond... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > then... > > > > > > > > > > > why do.... > > > > > > > > > > > why not just be high indifference... > > > > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no the High Indifference is not beyond nor above nor > > > > > > > impossible > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > perceive. It merely goes unrecognised. If it was > > easily > > > > > > > > > > obtainable...this recognition of 'what is alredy the > > > > case', > > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > > > would have been no presentations in life of spiritual > > > > > > teachers > > > > > > > > nor > > > > > > > > > > teachings.and you and I writing back and forth on a > > list > > > > > > > > > pertaining > > > > > > > > > > to the nondual truth, would not have come to pass > > > > either.the > > > > > > > Way > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > not difficult.just narrow.and requires certain > > unselfish > > > > > > > > behaviour > > > > > > > > > > patterns and beliefs, that we as the creatures of > > selfish > > > > > > > habits > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > we are, find hard to exercise in thought or deed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ......bob > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the unselfish is only hard for the selfish... > > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > just who among us here is not? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ..bob > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > selfish ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's the question yes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i.e., C flat > > > > > or D major? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > it's a twelve-tone piece with no defined key. > > > > > > > > > > the key is always defined as > > > > > > Space > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > but not the key signature like C flat or D major. the signature is a > > constriction on and a constraining factor for the piece being > > composed.why Schoenberg sounds so free is he would have none of > > that.then he went on to constrain himself with the strict rules he > > invented for formatting the twelve-tone symphonies.here I elude and > > evade such constraints, by obeying no rules....not even the > > masters....a masterful stroke, wouldn't you agree. > > > > > (oh, i studied all that, too. > > we in the boonies have to outdo > > the imaginary urbies) > > > > the master full > > give birth to > > the the empty lull > > > wouldn't you? ... > I imagine I would or wouldn't depending on whether I was absolutely sure of myself, or was myself... itself.... the absolute of which I'm sure. I absolutely just don't know. but it's quiet in the emptiness and empty in the quiet.......but the band plays on. now I just need find a strawberry blonde to dance the dance of nothingness and all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > <Roberibus111@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > <Roberibus111@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " > <iietsa@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " > > > <iietsa@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " > > > > > <iietsa@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " > > > > > > > > <iietsa@> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " > > > > > > > > > > <iietsa@> > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is no good and there is no > bad... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but somehow...there is a deep > feeling > > > to > > > > > give > > > > > > > > love > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > everything... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that little bird in the cage...why > is > > > it in > > > > > > > > > > > there...some > > > > > > > > > > > > > say > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > because > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of love...but the love I know is > > > > > freedom...not > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > put a > > > > > > > > > > > > > bird > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cage > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for selfish reasons...somehow > > > selfishness > > > > > is > > > > > > > > love > > > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well...but > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > love is not fully in light...its > kind > > > of > > > > > dark > > > > > > > > > > > love...now > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bird > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > itself is not what is beyond...but > > > > > anyway...why > > > > > > > > > > > imprison > > > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bird > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cage...whats the meaning...there is > > > nothing > > > > > > > > > > wrong...but > > > > > > > > > > > > > > whats > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > meaning...I mean if all is > love...then > > > why > > > > > not > > > > > > > > let > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > bird > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > freely...why do human selfishness > have > > > to > > > > > > > > interfere > > > > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bird.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > on this list there sometimes seem > to be > > > a > > > > > kind > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > indifference > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bird...like... I dont give a > monkeys > > > ass if > > > > > its > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > cage > > > > > > > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not...its > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > all a dreambubble anyway... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this seeing is what I would > call...love > > > not > > > > > > > > fully > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > light... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....speak freely...no fear... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > somebody in here who keep birds in > > > cages.....? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fear might make people lie.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and say " there is no somebody " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " all is just dream " and on an on... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > please tell me.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what are you " fighting for " ....? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (if not for....your inner peace and > > > freedom....) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some people can't handle some critics..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > normally this are exactly the same > > > people....who > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > endless > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > expections to themself....and > > > so...to " others " to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > let the birds fly....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not fighting for....? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > peace and freedom are mere words for the > > > natural > > > > > > > state... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am only asking...why not just taste the > > > natural > > > > > > > state ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...instead of trying to satisfy the selfish > > > hunger > > > > > by > > > > > > > > doing > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > million different things...like putting > birds > > > in a > > > > > > > > cage... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > everything done in duality....including > writing > > > > > > > > > > > > > this...EVERYTHING...is selfish....done in the > > > name of > > > > > and > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > satisfy > > > > > > > > > > > > > selfish desire. as long as one is alive and > > > living as > > > > > an > > > > > > > > > > > > individual > > > > > > > > > > > > > life, all is vanity. the natural state > however is > > > one > > > > > > > > > of " High > > > > > > > > > > > > > Indifference " , wherein and whereby not good > nor > > > bad, > > > > > > > > freedom > > > > > > > > > > nor > > > > > > > > > > > > > slavery, right nor wrong, love nor hate, > indeed > > > and > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > fact,no > > > > > > > > > > > > > duality obtains.This I have been told and > this I > > > > > believe > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > degree that I am able, I intuit. that this > is > > > > > a 'dark > > > > > > > > > > saying'to > > > > > > > > > > > > our > > > > > > > > > > > > > limited thought and feeling,there can be no > > > doubt. > > > > > this > > > > > > > > state > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > condition is one of utter incomprehensibility > to > > > the > > > > > > > > divided > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > seperate self. and until the Father and Son, > and > > > all > > > > > that > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > > > ONE, > > > > > > > > > > > > > it appears as utter foolishness and > > > > > impossible....Truth > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > absent > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > unknown here among the community of lost > souls. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ..bob > > > > > > > > > > > > > .......bob > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in short.... > > > > > > > > > > > > everything you do is selfish... > > > > > > > > > > > > high indifference is beyond... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > then... > > > > > > > > > > > > why do.... > > > > > > > > > > > > why not just be high indifference... > > > > > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no the High Indifference is not beyond nor above > nor > > > > > > > > impossible > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > perceive. It merely goes unrecognised. If it was > > > easily > > > > > > > > > > > obtainable...this recognition of 'what is alredy > the > > > > > case', > > > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > > > > would have been no presentations in life of > spiritual > > > > > > > teachers > > > > > > > > > nor > > > > > > > > > > > teachings.and you and I writing back and forth on > a > > > list > > > > > > > > > > pertaining > > > > > > > > > > > to the nondual truth, would not have come to pass > > > > > either.the > > > > > > > > Way > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > not difficult.just narrow.and requires certain > > > unselfish > > > > > > > > > behaviour > > > > > > > > > > > patterns and beliefs, that we as the creatures of > > > selfish > > > > > > > > habits > > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > we are, find hard to exercise in thought or deed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ......bob > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the unselfish is only hard for the selfish... > > > > > > > > > > ...iietsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > just who among us here is not? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ..bob > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > selfish ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's the question yes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i.e., C flat > > > > > > or D major? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > > it's a twelve-tone piece with no defined key. > > > > > > > > > > > > > the key is always defined as > > > > > > > > Space > > > > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > but not the key signature like C flat or D major. the signature > is a > > > constriction on and a constraining factor for the piece being > > > composed.why Schoenberg sounds so free is he would have none of > > > that.then he went on to constrain himself with the strict rules > he > > > invented for formatting the twelve-tone symphonies.here I elude > and > > > evade such constraints, by obeying no rules....not even the > > > masters....a masterful stroke, wouldn't you agree. > > > > > > > > > (oh, i studied all that, too. > > > > we in the boonies have to outdo > > > > the imaginary urbies) > > > > > > > > the master full > > > > give birth to > > > > the the empty lull > > > > > > wouldn't you? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ... > > > I imagine I would or wouldn't depending on whether I was absolutely > sure of myself, or was myself... itself.... the absolute of which I'm > sure. I absolutely just don't know. but it's quiet in the emptiness > and empty in the quiet.......but the band plays on. now I just need > find a strawberry blonde to dance the dance of nothingness and all. > i live for strawberry blonds but i'm the one who always has to put the sugar on top .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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