Guest guest Posted August 9, 2006 Report Share Posted August 9, 2006 Am I my eyes that I see from but not my toes? Does my body include the Earth and the universe, all as one eye of awareness or am I more of one thing than another? Is the universe all of me? Where do my eyes end? Where does the " I " end? Stu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2006 Report Share Posted August 10, 2006 Nisargadatta , Noel <noel_beau wrote: > > > > --- stuartkfmn <stuartkfmn wrote: > > > > > Am I my eyes that I see from but not my toes? > > > > Does my body include the Earth and the universe, all > > as one eye of > > awareness or am I more of one thing than another? > > > > Is the universe all of me? > > > > Where do my eyes end? > > > > Where does the " I " end? > > > > Stu > > > > If you find answers I would be interested in them, > Stu. > > " And, when he shall die, > Take him and cut him out in little stars, > And he will make the face of heaven so fine > That all the world will be in love with night, " > > For me, I have gotten glimpses of being smaller than > even a speck of sand, nevertheless, rhythmically > pulsating along with everything that is...what. > > (i.e., 'what is') > > Noel Hi, I've sent this before, so sorry if it's redundant, but this one is probably the most appropriate for the content;-) I BEHELD MYSELF INFINITESIMAL I beheld myself infinitesimal, a pinpoint of light waning in midday, falling to earth landing on human feet, and my feet were as roots, in the soil I was made rich and flourished as a woman. Yet I saw stars I asked how is it that light seems so very far away, so distant as I pointed to the moon, and my body grew wings, or somehow I, like Alice, grew taller and taller and I reached all stars, I was Chaos, churning and swirling I was a Dark Hole, I was absorbed Aware I am made alone I am empty. Absolute silence, this I am, the length and breadth and depth of I, the hum and the thrum I meditate my body, I am ecstasy, I am the Light of Meditation, I am the Vibration of One, Split in two, A communion with Sound and Light. I call You, I beg words I make Love with You, I eat your Light There is no Other. ??? > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2006 Report Share Posted August 10, 2006 Stu, I am everything my eyes see, no more of one thing than another, no more of my toes than of the furthest star in the universe... What makes my I different from the universe, if we are both looking with the same universal I, nothing, for i am everything my eyes see, and the universe is part of this everything. But if I am no longer my body if the universe no longer sees through my eyes am i still the universe, am i still the earth ? I am without awareness. " Where do my eyes end? Where does my " I " end? " If I am simply looking through this eyes without implying an identity to these my eyes, where does this identity, the identity of no one looking through no one's eyes end ? Where does nowhere end ? There are two answers possible, for myself and my sense of I, my end is nowhere, I am everywhere, in the future, in the past, in the present, in the now, everywhere, this is all me, forever. But for others my I ends where theirs begins. Even dough my universal i identifies with their toes and their bodies and even includes their mind, their sense of i am that, speerates them from me, that's where my i ends and theirs begins. Lulu Am I my eyes that I see from but not my toes? Does my body include the Earth and the universe, all as one eye of awareness or am I more of one thing than another? Is the universe all of me? Where do my eyes end? Where does my " I " end? Stu Want to be your own boss? Learn how on Small Business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2006 Report Share Posted August 10, 2006 --- stuartkfmn <stuartkfmn wrote: > > Am I my eyes that I see from but not my toes? > > Does my body include the Earth and the universe, all as one eye of > awareness or am I more of one thing than another? > > Is the universe all of me? > > Where do my eyes end? > > Where does the " I " end? > > Stu Some will say you are *seeing* itself. But dissolving into silence, what is there to be said? When silence is complete there are no words, and even " I am " has no meaning. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2006 Report Share Posted August 10, 2006 Nisargadatta , " stuartkfmn " <stuartkfmn wrote: > > > Am I my eyes that I see from but not my toes? > > Does my body include the Earth and the universe, all as one eye of > awareness or am I more of one thing than another? > > Is the universe all of me? > > Where do my eyes end? > > Where does the " I " end? > > Stu the one who ask this questions....Is.... just like the one who write this words....Is both meet in mind.... just like the ones who met in the dream last night... Marc Ps: the " I " end....where/when " you " ...Are ....for real > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2006 Report Share Posted August 10, 2006 Beautiful!:-) Stu " anabebe57 " <kailashana wrote: > > Nisargadatta , Noel <noel_beau@> wrote: > > > > > > > > --- stuartkfmn <stuartkfmn@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Am I my eyes that I see from but not my toes? > > > > > > Does my body include the Earth and the universe, all > > > as one eye of > > > awareness or am I more of one thing than another? > > > > > > Is the universe all of me? > > > > > > Where do my eyes end? > > > > > > Where does the " I " end? > > > > > > Stu > > > > > > > If you find answers I would be interested in them, > > Stu. > > > > " And, when he shall die, > > Take him and cut him out in little stars, > > And he will make the face of heaven so fine > > That all the world will be in love with night, " > > > > For me, I have gotten glimpses of being smaller than > > even a speck of sand, nevertheless, rhythmically > > pulsating along with everything that is...what. > > > > (i.e., 'what is') > > > > Noel > > > > Hi, I've sent this before, so sorry if it's redundant, but this one > is probably the most appropriate for the content;-) > > I BEHELD MYSELF INFINITESIMAL > > I beheld myself infinitesimal, > a pinpoint of light > waning in midday, > falling to earth > landing on human feet, > and my feet were as roots, > in the soil I was made rich > and flourished as a woman. > > Yet I saw stars > I asked how is it that light > seems so very far away, > so distant as I pointed to the moon, > and my body grew wings, > or somehow I, like Alice, > grew taller and taller > and I reached all stars, > I was Chaos, > churning and swirling > I was a Dark Hole, > I was absorbed > Aware > I am made alone > I am empty. > > Absolute silence, > this I am, > the length and breadth > and depth of I, > the hum and the thrum > I meditate my body, > I am ecstasy, > I am the Light of Meditation, > I am the Vibration of One, > > Split in two, > A communion with > Sound and Light. > I call You, > I beg words > I make Love with You, > I eat your Light > > There is no Other. > > > ??? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2006 Report Share Posted August 10, 2006 Your comment about the universe seeing through my eyes, added a whole new level to what I had said! I looked at a beautiful Caladium plant sitting on the window sill and realized that it could see through my eyes!:-) So this isn't at all about where I end or how big I am. My way was infinite but cold and dead. But sensing all things looking through my eyes just as I look through theirs... as one eye " I " , is alive and beautiful!:-) Ar both the plant and I asking the same questions? Are all things all at once within each other? Thanks Stu Lulu Dong <lulu.dong wrote: > > Stu, > > I am everything my eyes see, no more of one thing than another, no more of my toes than of the furthest star in the universe... > > What makes my I different from the universe, if we are both looking with the same universal I, nothing, for i am everything my eyes see, and the universe is part of this everything. > > But if I am no longer my body if the universe no longer sees through my eyes am i still the universe, am i still the earth ? > > I am without awareness. > > " Where do my eyes end? > Where does my " I " end? " > > If I am simply looking through this eyes without implying an identity to these my eyes, where does this identity, the identity of no one looking through no one's eyes end ? > > Where does nowhere end ? > > There are two answers possible, for myself and my sense of I, my end is nowhere, I am everywhere, in the future, in the past, in the present, in the now, everywhere, this is all me, forever. > > But for others my I ends where theirs begins. Even dough my universal i identifies with their toes and their bodies and even includes their mind, their sense of i am that, speerates them from me, that's where my i ends and theirs begins. > > Lulu > > > > > Am I my eyes that I see from but not my toes? > > Does my body include the Earth and the universe, all as one eye of > awareness or am I more of one thing than another? > > Is the universe all of me? > > Where do my eyes end? > > Where does my " I " end? > > Stu > > > > Want to be your own boss? Learn how on Small Business. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2006 Report Share Posted August 10, 2006 " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " stuartkfmn " <stuartkfmn@> > wrote: > > > > > > Am I my eyes that I see from but not my toes? > > > > Does my body include the Earth and the universe, all as one eye of > > awareness or am I more of one thing than another? > > > > Is the universe all of me? > > > > Where do my eyes end? > > > > Where does the " I " end? > > > > Stu > > > the one who ask this questions....Is.... The potted plant near my window asks... > > just like the one who write this words....Is My fingers looked through the computer keyboard, while the keyboard wrote ... me... and... My fingers type what my keyboard already knows, but my keyboard is very patient and obliging. > > > both meet in mind.... If that is still the mind, it is a better mind that the one we had yesterday:-) > > just like the ones who met in the dream last night... > > > Marc > > > Ps: the " I " end....where/when " you " ...Are > ...for real > Our use of words makes the simple seem paradoxical:-) Stu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2006 Report Share Posted August 10, 2006 Nisargadatta , " stuartkfmn " <stuartkfmn wrote: > > " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " stuartkfmn " <stuartkfmn@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Am I my eyes that I see from but not my toes? > > > > > > Does my body include the Earth and the universe, all as one eye of > > > awareness or am I more of one thing than another? > > > > > > Is the universe all of me? > > > > > > Where do my eyes end? > > > > > > Where does the " I " end? > > > > > > Stu > > > > > > the one who ask this questions....Is.... > > The potted plant near my window asks... > > > > > just like the one who write this words....Is > > > My fingers looked through the computer keyboard, while the keyboard > wrote ... me... > and... > My fingers type what my keyboard already knows, but my keyboard is > very patient and obliging. > > > > > > > both meet in mind.... > > If that is still the mind, it is a better mind that the one we had > yesterday:-) > > > > > just like the ones who met in the dream last night... > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > Ps: the " I " end....where/when " you " ...Are > > ...for real > > > > Our use of words makes the simple seem paradoxical:-) > Stu > " I " could have been " you " , now what???? eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2006 Report Share Posted August 10, 2006 Dear Stu, Yes, they are, but the plant does not ask this question, you alone ask this question, and even dough the plant is looking through your eyes seeing herself, this question is not the plant's question, it is your question. You are having great realisations these days, I admire you for that. The question you asked " Am I my eyes that I see from but not my toes? " is way over the edge! If you have a moment to spare, please make some notes for your records, what did you eat, what did you read, what did you study what did you practice ? How long did you sleep ? What did you do ? How did you arrive at this conclusion ? What made you formulate that question ? Was it something you read ? Something you saw ? Something you heard ? Is it meditation ? How and why did you arrive at this question ? Do you remember ? Make notes, anything which lead you to this state is worth writing it down ! Lulu Your comment about the universe seeing through my eyes, added a whole new level to what I had said! I looked at a beautiful Caladium plant sitting on the window sill and realized that it could see through my eyes!:-) So this isn't at all about where I end or how big I am. My way was infinite but cold and dead. But sensing all things looking through my eyes just as I look through theirs... as one eye " I " , is alive and beautiful!:-) Ar both the plant and I asking the same questions? Are all things all at once within each other? Thanks Stu Lulu Dong <lulu.dong wrote: > > Stu, > > I am everything my eyes see, no more of one thing than another, no more of my toes than of the furthest star in the universe... > > What makes my I different from the universe, if we are both looking with the same universal I, nothing, for i am everything my eyes see, and the universe is part of this everything. > > But if I am no longer my body if the universe no longer sees through my eyes am i still the universe, am i still the earth ? > > I am without awareness. > > " Where do my eyes end? > Where does my " I " end? " > > If I am simply looking through this eyes without implying an identity to these my eyes, where does this identity, the identity of no one looking through no one's eyes end ? > > Where does nowhere end ? > > There are two answers possible, for myself and my sense of I, my end is nowhere, I am everywhere, in the future, in the past, in the present, in the now, everywhere, this is all me, forever. > > But for others my I ends where theirs begins. Even dough my universal i identifies with their toes and their bodies and even includes their mind, their sense of i am that, speerates them from me, that's where my i ends and theirs begins. > > Lulu > > > > > Am I my eyes that I see from but not my toes? > > Does my body include the Earth and the universe, all as one eye of > awareness or am I more of one thing than another? > > Is the universe all of me? > > Where do my eyes end? > > Where does my " I " end? > > Stu Stay in the know. Pulse on the new .com. Check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2006 Report Share Posted August 11, 2006 Nisargadatta , " stuartkfmn " <stuartkfmn wrote: > > " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " stuartkfmn " <stuartkfmn@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Am I my eyes that I see from but not my toes? > > > > > > Does my body include the Earth and the universe, all as one eye of > > > awareness or am I more of one thing than another? > > > > > > Is the universe all of me? > > > > > > Where do my eyes end? > > > > > > Where does the " I " end? > > > > > > Stu > > > > > > the one who ask this questions....Is.... > > The potted plant near my window asks... > > > > > just like the one who write this words....Is > > > My fingers looked through the computer keyboard, while the keyboard > wrote ... me... > and... > My fingers type what my keyboard already knows, but my keyboard is > very patient and obliging. > > > > > > > both meet in mind.... > > If that is still the mind, it is a better mind that the one we had > yesterday:-) > > > > > just like the ones who met in the dream last night... > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > Ps: the " I " end....where/when " you " ...Are > > ...for real > > > > Our use of words makes the simple seem paradoxical:-) > Stu words are words only Marc > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2006 Report Share Posted August 11, 2006 The questions you suggenst I keep track of show you to be a more organized person than I. I should have been doing this for many years now:-) Thanks, Stu Lulu Dong <lulu.dong wrote: > > > Dear Stu, > > Yes, they are, but the plant does not ask this question, you alone ask this question, and even dough the plant is looking through your eyes seeing herself, this question is not the plant's question, it is your question. > > You are having great realisations these days, I admire you for that. > > The question you asked " Am I my eyes that I see from but not my toes? " is way over the edge! If you have a moment to spare, please make some notes for your records, what did you eat, what did you read, what did you study what did you practice ? How long did you sleep ? What did you do ? How did you arrive at this conclusion ? What made you formulate that question ? Was it something you read ? Something you saw ? Something you heard ? Is it meditation ? How and why did you arrive at this question ? Do you remember ? Make notes, anything which lead you to this state is worth writing it down ! > > > Lulu > > > Your comment about the universe seeing through my eyes, added a whole > new level to what I had said! I looked at a beautiful Caladium plant > sitting on the window sill and realized that it could see through my > eyes!:-) > > So this isn't at all about where I end or how big I am. My way was > infinite but cold and dead. > > But sensing all things looking through my eyes just as I look through > theirs... as one eye " I " , is alive and beautiful!:-) > > Ar both the plant and I asking the same questions? Are all things all > at once within each other? > > Thanks > Stu > > Lulu Dong <lulu.dong@> wrote: > > > > Stu, > > > > I am everything my eyes see, no more of one thing than another, no > more of my toes than of the furthest star in the universe... > > > > What makes my I different from the universe, if we are both > looking with the same universal I, nothing, for i am everything my > eyes see, and the universe is part of this everything. > > > > But if I am no longer my body if the universe no longer sees > through my eyes am i still the universe, am i still the earth ? > > > > I am without awareness. > > > > " Where do my eyes end? > > Where does my " I " end? " > > > > If I am simply looking through this eyes without implying an > identity to these my eyes, where does this identity, the identity of > no one looking through no one's eyes end ? > > > > Where does nowhere end ? > > > > There are two answers possible, for myself and my sense of I, my > end is nowhere, I am everywhere, in the future, in the past, in the > present, in the now, everywhere, this is all me, forever. > > > > But for others my I ends where theirs begins. Even dough my > universal i identifies with their toes and their bodies and even > includes their mind, their sense of i am that, speerates them from me, > that's where my i ends and theirs begins. > > > > Lulu > > > > > > > > > > Am I my eyes that I see from but not my toes? > > > > Does my body include the Earth and the universe, all as one eye of > > awareness or am I more of one thing than another? > > > > Is the universe all of me? > > > > Where do my eyes end? > > > > Where does my " I " end? > > > > Stu > > > > > Stay in the know. Pulse on the new .com. Check it out. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2006 Report Share Posted August 11, 2006 Nisargadatta , " stuartkfmn " <stuartkfmn wrote: > > > The questions you suggenst I keep track of show you to be a more > organized person than I. > I should have been doing this for many years now:-) > > Thanks, > Stu > > Lulu Dong <lulu.dong@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Stu, > > > > Yes, they are, but the plant does not ask this question, you alone > ask this question, and even dough the plant is looking through your > eyes seeing herself, this question is not the plant's question, it is > your question. > > > > You are having great realisations these days, I admire you for that. > > > > The question you asked " Am I my eyes that I see from but not my > toes? " is way over the edge! If you have a moment to spare, please > make some notes for your records, what did you eat, what did you read, > what did you study what did you practice ? How long did you sleep ? > What did you do ? How did you arrive at this conclusion ? What made > you formulate that question ? Was it something you read ? Something > you saw ? Something you heard ? Is it meditation ? How and why did you > arrive at this question ? Do you remember ? Make notes, anything which > lead you to this state is worth writing it down ! > > > > > > Lulu > > > > > > Your comment about the universe seeing through my eyes, added a whole > > new level to what I had said! I looked at a beautiful Caladium plant > > sitting on the window sill and realized that it could see through my > > eyes!:-) > > > > So this isn't at all about where I end or how big I am. My way was > > infinite but cold and dead. > > > > But sensing all things looking through my eyes just as I look through > > theirs... as one eye " I " , is alive and beautiful!:-) > > > > Ar both the plant and I asking the same questions? Are all things all > > at once within each other? > > > > Thanks > > Stu > > > > Lulu Dong <lulu.dong@> wrote: > > > > > > Stu, > > > > > > I am everything my eyes see, no more of one thing than another, no > > more of my toes than of the furthest star in the universe... > > > > > > What makes my I different from the universe, if we are both > > looking with the same universal I, nothing, for i am everything my > > eyes see, and the universe is part of this everything. > > > > > > But if I am no longer my body if the universe no longer sees > > through my eyes am i still the universe, am i still the earth ? > > > > > > I am without awareness. > > > > > > " Where do my eyes end? > > > Where does my " I " end? " > > > > > > If I am simply looking through this eyes without implying an > > identity to these my eyes, where does this identity, the identity of > > no one looking through no one's eyes end ? > > > > > > Where does nowhere end ? > > > > > > There are two answers possible, for myself and my sense of I, my > > end is nowhere, I am everywhere, in the future, in the past, in the > > present, in the now, everywhere, this is all me, forever. > > > > > > But for others my I ends where theirs begins. Even dough my > > universal i identifies with their toes and their bodies and even > > includes their mind, their sense of i am that, speerates them from me, > > that's where my i ends and theirs begins. > > > > > > Lulu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am I my eyes that I see from but not my toes? > > > > > > Does my body include the Earth and the universe, all as one eye of > > > awareness or am I more of one thing than another? > > > > > > Is the universe all of me? > > > > > > Where do my eyes end? > > > > > > Where does my " I " end? > > > > > > Stu if it feels like work: it won't if it takes effort: it's not worth the effort .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2006 Report Share Posted August 12, 2006 Hi Stu, if i was more organized than you, i wouldn't need to ask, lol I suggest the questions because if you ever want to challenge the beautiful plant with a beautiful girl, you might like to explain the beautiful girl why it is that she can see through your eyes and how it came about that you are seeing through hers... Lulu The questions you suggest I keep track of show you to be a more organized person than I. I should have been doing this for many years now:-) Thanks, Stu Lulu Dong <lulu.dong wrote: > > > Dear Stu, > > Yes, they are, but the plant does not ask this question, you alone ask this question, and even dough the plant is looking through your eyes seeing herself, this question is not the plant's question, it is your question. > > You are having great realisations these days, I admire you for that. > > The question you asked " Am I my eyes that I see from but not my toes? " is way over the edge! If you have a moment to spare, please make some notes for your records, what did you eat, what did you read, what did you study what did you practice ? How long did you sleep ? What did you do ? How did you arrive at this conclusion ? What made you formulate that question ? Was it something you read ? Something you saw ? Something you heard ? Is it meditation ? How and why did you arrive at this question ? Do you remember ? Make notes, anything which lead you to this state is worth writing it down ! > > > Lulu > > > Your comment about the universe seeing through my eyes, added a whole > new level to what I had said! I looked at a beautiful Caladium plant > sitting on the window sill and realized that it could see through my > eyes!:-) > > So this isn't at all about where I end or how big I am. My way was > infinite but cold and dead. > > But sensing all things looking through my eyes just as I look through > theirs... as one eye " I " , is alive and beautiful!:-) > > Ar both the plant and I asking the same questions? Are all things all > at once within each other? > > Thanks > Stu > > Lulu Dong <lulu.dong@> wrote: > > > > Stu, > > > > I am everything my eyes see, no more of one thing than another, no > more of my toes than of the furthest star in the universe... > > > > What makes my I different from the universe, if we are both > looking with the same universal I, nothing, for i am everything my > eyes see, and the universe is part of this everything. > > > > But if I am no longer my body if the universe no longer sees > through my eyes am i still the universe, am i still the earth ? > > > > I am without awareness. > > > > " Where do my eyes end? > > Where does my " I " end? " > > > > If I am simply looking through this eyes without implying an > identity to these my eyes, where does this identity, the identity of > no one looking through no one's eyes end ? > > > > Where does nowhere end ? > > > > There are two answers possible, for myself and my sense of I, my > end is nowhere, I am everywhere, in the future, in the past, in the > present, in the now, everywhere, this is all me, forever. > > > > But for others my I ends where theirs begins. Even dough my > universal i identifies with their toes and their bodies and even > includes their mind, their sense of i am that, speerates them from me, > that's where my i ends and theirs begins. > > > > Lulu > > > > > > > > > > Am I my eyes that I see from but not my toes? > > > > Does my body include the Earth and the universe, all as one eye of > > awareness or am I more of one thing than another? > > > > Is the universe all of me? > > > > Where do my eyes end? > > > > Where does my " I " end? > > > > Stu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2006 Report Share Posted August 13, 2006 Stu, please tell more about your realisation! It would be a nice change to read something from someone really realised. Lulu Stay in the know. Pulse on the new .com. Check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.