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The perils of trying too hard to live in the present. Tijn Touber

reflects on the dangers of living in the here and now.

 

Just back from talking with Eckhart Tolle about the importance of

living in the " here and now " , I run across a column in the magazine

Spirituality & Health (April 2004) written by former Catholic monk

and bestselling author Thomas Moore about the importance of life in

the " there and then " . Moore suspects that concentrating on trying to

live in the here and now only takes us further away from truly being

in the here and now. If you really want to be present here and now,

he advises, you should give up your egotistical desires – such as

living in the here and now. Then you'll automatically be in the here

and now.

It's typical that the egos of people who are wrapped up in trying to

be egoless in fact only gets bigger.

This rings only too true. I recently caught myself rattling on yet

again about one of my pet theories. The nice lady sitting across from

me listened as I enthusiastically told her how important it is to be

less involved with the ego and to completely live in that egoless

state of pure awareness. " Gone is the time when we needed to spend

long hours meditating and endlessly talking about what the ego

actually is and how we can become free and enlightened, " I chattered

on. " Gone is the time when we needed to tell others how things should

be done. It's high time to simply be it. To live it. Now. Here. Time

to make ourselves less important and be truly open to another, " and

on and on…

She nodded enthusiastically at first, but as I kept going her eyes

started to glaze. After 15 minutes or so she politely interrupted me.

She totally agreed with me, she said, but had to go because her kids

were waiting to be picked up at school. Then she needed to go grocery

shopping, cook dinner, iron clothes, and help her youngest son with

his homework. She smiled at me sweetly and gave me an encouraging pat

on the back. She truly agreed with me and said I had articulated my

ideas very well. I was always welcome to come by and tell her more.

When she had gone, I thanked God for ordinary people who don't have

the time to become egoless.

 

By Tijn Touber

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Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr

wrote:

>

> Time for now

>

> The perils of trying too hard to live in the present. Tijn Touber

> reflects on the dangers of living in the here and now.

>

> Just back from talking with Eckhart Tolle about the importance of

> living in the " here and now " , I run across a column in the magazine

> Spirituality & Health (April 2004) written by former Catholic monk

> and bestselling author Thomas Moore about the importance of life in

> the " there and then " . Moore suspects that concentrating on trying

to

> live in the here and now only takes us further away from truly

being

> in the here and now. If you really want to be present here and now,

> he advises, you should give up your egotistical desires – such as

> living in the here and now. Then you'll automatically be in the

here

> and now.

> It's typical that the egos of people who are wrapped up in trying

to

> be egoless in fact only gets bigger.

> This rings only too true. I recently caught myself rattling on yet

> again about one of my pet theories. The nice lady sitting across

from

> me listened as I enthusiastically told her how important it is to

be

> less involved with the ego and to completely live in that egoless

> state of pure awareness. " Gone is the time when we needed to spend

> long hours meditating and endlessly talking about what the ego

> actually is and how we can become free and enlightened, " I

chattered

> on. " Gone is the time when we needed to tell others how things

should

> be done. It's high time to simply be it. To live it. Now. Here.

Time

> to make ourselves less important and be truly open to another, " and

> on and on…

> She nodded enthusiastically at first, but as I kept going her eyes

> started to glaze. After 15 minutes or so she politely interrupted

me.

> She totally agreed with me, she said, but had to go because her

kids

> were waiting to be picked up at school. Then she needed to go

grocery

> shopping, cook dinner, iron clothes, and help her youngest son with

> his homework. She smiled at me sweetly and gave me an encouraging

pat

> on the back. She truly agreed with me and said I had articulated my

> ideas very well. I was always welcome to come by and tell her more.

> When she had gone, I thanked God for ordinary people who don't have

> the time to become egoless.

>

> By Tijn Touber

 

 

one don't need to tell the Whole(ness) of world....that one need to

be/come....

 

just a normal person....

 

like everybody else....

 

breathing in and out....

 

sleeping....

 

dreaming...

 

eating....

 

be loving...

 

be happy....

 

enjoying ...simple being...

 

and knowing...

 

that all this is nothing but a fantastic dream...

 

in which it make no sense trying to cause trouble...

 

in the life of imaginary others...

 

because there are no others....for real

 

there is only one real Self...

 

and this one real Self....

 

is beside this fantastic dream....

 

the eternal witness and source....of all

 

at same time

 

here...

 

and also

 

now

 

Marc

 

 

Ps: i'm not talking to " you "

 

 

 

>

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Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 "

<dennis_travis33 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Time for now

> >

> > The perils of trying too hard to live in the present. Tijn

Touber

> > reflects on the dangers of living in the here and now.

> >

> > Just back from talking with Eckhart Tolle about the importance

of

> > living in the " here and now " , I run across a column in the

magazine

> > Spirituality & Health (April 2004) written by former Catholic

monk

> > and bestselling author Thomas Moore about the importance of life

in

> > the " there and then " . Moore suspects that concentrating on

trying

> to

> > live in the here and now only takes us further away from truly

> being

> > in the here and now. If you really want to be present here and

now,

> > he advises, you should give up your egotistical desires – such

as

> > living in the here and now. Then you'll automatically be in the

> here

> > and now.

> > It's typical that the egos of people who are wrapped up in

trying

> to

> > be egoless in fact only gets bigger.

> > This rings only too true. I recently caught myself rattling on

yet

> > again about one of my pet theories. The nice lady sitting across

> from

> > me listened as I enthusiastically told her how important it is

to

> be

> > less involved with the ego and to completely live in that

egoless

> > state of pure awareness. " Gone is the time when we needed to

spend

> > long hours meditating and endlessly talking about what the ego

> > actually is and how we can become free and enlightened, " I

> chattered

> > on. " Gone is the time when we needed to tell others how things

> should

> > be done. It's high time to simply be it. To live it. Now. Here.

> Time

> > to make ourselves less important and be truly open to another, "

and

> > on and on…

> > She nodded enthusiastically at first, but as I kept going her

eyes

> > started to glaze. After 15 minutes or so she politely

interrupted

> me.

> > She totally agreed with me, she said, but had to go because her

> kids

> > were waiting to be picked up at school. Then she needed to go

> grocery

> > shopping, cook dinner, iron clothes, and help her youngest son

with

> > his homework. She smiled at me sweetly and gave me an

encouraging

> pat

> > on the back. She truly agreed with me and said I had articulated

my

> > ideas very well. I was always welcome to come by and tell her

more.

> > When she had gone, I thanked God for ordinary people who don't

have

> > the time to become egoless.

> >

> > By Tijn Touber

>

>

> one don't need to tell the Whole(ness) of world....that one need

to

> be/come....

>

> just a normal person....

>

> like everybody else....

>

> breathing in and out....

>

> sleeping....

>

> dreaming...

>

> eating....

>

> be loving...

>

> be happy....

>

> enjoying ...simple being...

>

> and knowing...

>

> that all this is nothing but a fantastic dream...

>

> in which it make no sense trying to cause trouble...

>

> in the life of imaginary others...

>

> because there are no others....for real

>

> there is only one real Self...

>

> and this one real Self....

>

> is beside this fantastic dream....

>

> the eternal witness and source....of all

>

> at same time

>

> here...

>

> and also

>

> now

>

> Marc

>

>

> Ps: i'm not talking to " you "

>

>

>

> >

>

 

 

In pure " presence " perhaps there is nothing to say to no one.

 

Presence itself is understood, acknowledged and articulated.

 

Like a cool breeze on a hot summer's day, it feels 'good'.

 

 

 

;-)

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Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 "

<dennis_travis33 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Time for now

> >

> > The perils of trying too hard to live in the present. Tijn Touber

> > reflects on the dangers of living in the here and now.

> >

> > Just back from talking with Eckhart Tolle about the importance of

> > living in the " here and now " , I run across a column in the

magazine

> > Spirituality & Health (April 2004) written by former Catholic

monk

> > and bestselling author Thomas Moore about the importance of life

in

> > the " there and then " . Moore suspects that concentrating on trying

> to

> > live in the here and now only takes us further away from truly

> being

> > in the here and now. If you really want to be present here and

now,

> > he advises, you should give up your egotistical desires – such as

> > living in the here and now. Then you'll automatically be in the

> here

> > and now.

> > It's typical that the egos of people who are wrapped up in

trying

> to

> > be egoless in fact only gets bigger.

> > This rings only too true. I recently caught myself rattling on

yet

> > again about one of my pet theories. The nice lady sitting across

> from

> > me listened as I enthusiastically told her how important it is to

> be

> > less involved with the ego and to completely live in that egoless

> > state of pure awareness. " Gone is the time when we needed to

spend

> > long hours meditating and endlessly talking about what the ego

> > actually is and how we can become free and enlightened, " I

> chattered

> > on. " Gone is the time when we needed to tell others how things

> should

> > be done. It's high time to simply be it. To live it. Now. Here.

> Time

> > to make ourselves less important and be truly open to another, "

and

> > on and on…

> > She nodded enthusiastically at first, but as I kept going her

eyes

> > started to glaze. After 15 minutes or so she politely interrupted

> me.

> > She totally agreed with me, she said, but had to go because her

> kids

> > were waiting to be picked up at school. Then she needed to go

> grocery

> > shopping, cook dinner, iron clothes, and help her youngest son

with

> > his homework. She smiled at me sweetly and gave me an encouraging

> pat

> > on the back. She truly agreed with me and said I had articulated

my

> > ideas very well. I was always welcome to come by and tell her

more.

> > When she had gone, I thanked God for ordinary people who don't

have

> > the time to become egoless.

> >

> > By Tijn Touber

>

>

> one don't need to tell the Whole(ness) of world....that one need to

> be/come....

>

> just a normal person....

>

> like everybody else....

>

> breathing in and out....

>

> sleeping....

>

> dreaming...

>

> eating....

>

> be loving...

>

> be happy....

>

> enjoying ...simple being...

>

> and knowing...

>

> that all this is nothing but a fantastic dream...

>

> in which it make no sense trying to cause trouble...

>

> in the life of imaginary others...

>

> because there are no others....for real

>

> there is only one real Self...

>

> and this one real Self....

>

> is beside this fantastic dream....

>

> the eternal witness and source....of all

>

> at same time

>

> here...

>

> and also

>

> now

>

> Marc

>

>

> Ps: i'm not talking to " you "

>

>

 

 

Sounds pretty " spiritual " .

 

Are you still trying to give the impression of being a

smart " spiritual " person ? I wonder when that will end. What do your

parents say to that kind of behaviour ? When I was

behaving " spiritual " my mother meant I was reading too much :)

 

Werner

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Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana

wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 "

> <dennis_travis33@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Time for now

> > >

> > > The perils of trying too hard to live in the present. Tijn

> Touber

> > > reflects on the dangers of living in the here and now.

> > >

> > > Just back from talking with Eckhart Tolle about the importance

> of

> > > living in the " here and now " , I run across a column in the

> magazine

> > > Spirituality & Health (April 2004) written by former Catholic

> monk

> > > and bestselling author Thomas Moore about the importance of

life

> in

> > > the " there and then " . Moore suspects that concentrating on

> trying

> > to

> > > live in the here and now only takes us further away from truly

> > being

> > > in the here and now. If you really want to be present here and

> now,

> > > he advises, you should give up your egotistical desires – such

> as

> > > living in the here and now. Then you'll automatically be in the

> > here

> > > and now.

> > > It's typical that the egos of people who are wrapped up in

> trying

> > to

> > > be egoless in fact only gets bigger.

> > > This rings only too true. I recently caught myself rattling on

> yet

> > > again about one of my pet theories. The nice lady sitting

across

> > from

> > > me listened as I enthusiastically told her how important it is

> to

> > be

> > > less involved with the ego and to completely live in that

> egoless

> > > state of pure awareness. " Gone is the time when we needed to

> spend

> > > long hours meditating and endlessly talking about what the ego

> > > actually is and how we can become free and enlightened, " I

> > chattered

> > > on. " Gone is the time when we needed to tell others how things

> > should

> > > be done. It's high time to simply be it. To live it. Now. Here.

> > Time

> > > to make ourselves less important and be truly open to another, "

> and

> > > on and on…

> > > She nodded enthusiastically at first, but as I kept going her

> eyes

> > > started to glaze. After 15 minutes or so she politely

> interrupted

> > me.

> > > She totally agreed with me, she said, but had to go because her

> > kids

> > > were waiting to be picked up at school. Then she needed to go

> > grocery

> > > shopping, cook dinner, iron clothes, and help her youngest son

> with

> > > his homework. She smiled at me sweetly and gave me an

> encouraging

> > pat

> > > on the back. She truly agreed with me and said I had

articulated

> my

> > > ideas very well. I was always welcome to come by and tell her

> more.

> > > When she had gone, I thanked God for ordinary people who don't

> have

> > > the time to become egoless.

> > >

> > > By Tijn Touber

> >

> >

> > one don't need to tell the Whole(ness) of world....that one need

> to

> > be/come....

> >

> > just a normal person....

> >

> > like everybody else....

> >

> > breathing in and out....

> >

> > sleeping....

> >

> > dreaming...

> >

> > eating....

> >

> > be loving...

> >

> > be happy....

> >

> > enjoying ...simple being...

> >

> > and knowing...

> >

> > that all this is nothing but a fantastic dream...

> >

> > in which it make no sense trying to cause trouble...

> >

> > in the life of imaginary others...

> >

> > because there are no others....for real

> >

> > there is only one real Self...

> >

> > and this one real Self....

> >

> > is beside this fantastic dream....

> >

> > the eternal witness and source....of all

> >

> > at same time

> >

> > here...

> >

> > and also

> >

> > now

> >

> > Marc

> >

> >

> > Ps: i'm not talking to " you "

> >

> >

> >

> > >

> >

>

>

> In pure " presence " perhaps there is nothing to say to no one.

>

> Presence itself is understood, acknowledged and articulated.

>

> Like a cool breeze on a hot summer's day, it feels 'good'.

>

>

>

> ;-)

 

 

let's enjoy so the....pure " presense "

 

:)

>

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Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr

wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 "

> <dennis_travis33@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Time for now

> > >

> > > The perils of trying too hard to live in the present. Tijn

Touber

> > > reflects on the dangers of living in the here and now.

> > >

> > > Just back from talking with Eckhart Tolle about the importance

of

> > > living in the " here and now " , I run across a column in the

> magazine

> > > Spirituality & Health (April 2004) written by former Catholic

> monk

> > > and bestselling author Thomas Moore about the importance of

life

> in

> > > the " there and then " . Moore suspects that concentrating on

trying

> > to

> > > live in the here and now only takes us further away from truly

> > being

> > > in the here and now. If you really want to be present here and

> now,

> > > he advises, you should give up your egotistical desires – such

as

> > > living in the here and now. Then you'll automatically be in the

> > here

> > > and now.

> > > It's typical that the egos of people who are wrapped up in

> trying

> > to

> > > be egoless in fact only gets bigger.

> > > This rings only too true. I recently caught myself rattling on

> yet

> > > again about one of my pet theories. The nice lady sitting

across

> > from

> > > me listened as I enthusiastically told her how important it is

to

> > be

> > > less involved with the ego and to completely live in that

egoless

> > > state of pure awareness. " Gone is the time when we needed to

> spend

> > > long hours meditating and endlessly talking about what the ego

> > > actually is and how we can become free and enlightened, " I

> > chattered

> > > on. " Gone is the time when we needed to tell others how things

> > should

> > > be done. It's high time to simply be it. To live it. Now. Here.

> > Time

> > > to make ourselves less important and be truly open to another, "

> and

> > > on and on…

> > > She nodded enthusiastically at first, but as I kept going her

> eyes

> > > started to glaze. After 15 minutes or so she politely

interrupted

> > me.

> > > She totally agreed with me, she said, but had to go because her

> > kids

> > > were waiting to be picked up at school. Then she needed to go

> > grocery

> > > shopping, cook dinner, iron clothes, and help her youngest son

> with

> > > his homework. She smiled at me sweetly and gave me an

encouraging

> > pat

> > > on the back. She truly agreed with me and said I had

articulated

> my

> > > ideas very well. I was always welcome to come by and tell her

> more.

> > > When she had gone, I thanked God for ordinary people who don't

> have

> > > the time to become egoless.

> > >

> > > By Tijn Touber

> >

> >

> > one don't need to tell the Whole(ness) of world....that one need

to

> > be/come....

> >

> > just a normal person....

> >

> > like everybody else....

> >

> > breathing in and out....

> >

> > sleeping....

> >

> > dreaming...

> >

> > eating....

> >

> > be loving...

> >

> > be happy....

> >

> > enjoying ...simple being...

> >

> > and knowing...

> >

> > that all this is nothing but a fantastic dream...

> >

> > in which it make no sense trying to cause trouble...

> >

> > in the life of imaginary others...

> >

> > because there are no others....for real

> >

> > there is only one real Self...

> >

> > and this one real Self....

> >

> > is beside this fantastic dream....

> >

> > the eternal witness and source....of all

> >

> > at same time

> >

> > here...

> >

> > and also

> >

> > now

> >

> > Marc

> >

> >

> > Ps: i'm not talking to " you "

> >

> >

>

>

> Sounds pretty " spiritual " .

>

> Are you still trying to give the impression of being a

> smart " spiritual " person ? I wonder when that will end. What do

your

> parents say to that kind of behaviour ? When I was

> behaving " spiritual " my mother meant I was reading too much :)

>

> Werner

 

 

 

 

Hi Guru Werner,

 

yes.....i reflect exactly all this smart spiritual persons in

here.......like this mirror-thing-concept......you know

 

lol

 

your mother was right.....i suppose....

 

to behave like a living book.....isn't very real....

 

:)

 

 

 

 

 

 

>

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