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The Advaita philosopher is trying to become the standstill awareness without any

attribute (Nirguna chit). The attributes of the awareness form the state of mind

(Manomaya Kosa). When the attributes (Gunas) or feelings are absent, there is no

existence of the faculty of mind. This is referred as the dissolution of mind

(Manolaya Yoga). Such a person remains as the body of food and respiration only

without mind. Such a state is the state of plants and trees. Plants and trees

are made of food and carry on the respiration. The mind is very negligible and

can be considered as absent. The Advaita philosopher has kept this state as his

final goal, which is the state of a tree. It is said that one becomes whatever

he desires (Yat bhavam tat bhavati). If this philosopher dies in this state only

as the final goal, he achieves the same state by taking birth as a tree.

 

The state of Avadhuta is a severe state of Advaita philosopher, where the

person is almost in the state of deep sleep. In deep sleep the awareness attains

the eternal basic form, which is the inert energy. Such a person ending in this

state shall be born as an inert stone which is the inert energy present in the

form of matter. It is not a curse but it is the desired state and is the fixed

final goal of the aspirant only. The aspirant aspired for such state and lived

in such a state for a long time and wishes to remain in that state continuously.

Therefore one need not be angry with Me in this point.

 

Both the above states (Sanyasa and Avadhuta) are the fruits of achievement of

self-realization in practice which is appreciated as self-attainment (Atma

Yoga). The self attainment should not be the end of your spiritual effort and is

not the final goal. If the self attainment is the final goal of this precious

human life, the future birth as a tree or a stone is inevitable because of the

strong desire about it. But if this self-attainment happens to be the middle

stage of your journey, such attainment is appreciable. By such self-attainment

you are undisturbed like a stone. You are firm in your determination like a

rock. All this state is only a training given to you to make you fit for the

service of God. If you end with this training, there is no difference between

yourself and a stone. To become a stone is not the final goal.

 

To stand firm like a stone in doing service to God is the final goal.

Therefore after attaining the self, we have to search for the super self, which

is available in the human form in your present generation. Then you have to

serve Him in His mission like a rock. For such dedication, you have to withdraw

yourself from all the worldly bonds and become like the firm mountain. If you

withdraw from all the worldly bonds and remain idle without doing the service to

God, then you are just a stone with awareness. What is the use of such

withdrawal (Pratyahara)? You are given training to become a soldier. If you do

not become a soldier and fight in the war, what is the use of your training? You

should not end with the training. The training must have its application. The

self-attainment is training. Its application is in the service to God.

 

At the lotus feet of Shri Datta Swami

surya

http://www.universal-spirituality.org

 

 

 

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Nisargadatta , prakki surya <dattapr2000 wrote:

>

> The Advaita philosopher is trying to become the standstill awareness

without any attribute (Nirguna chit). The attributes of the awareness

form the state of mind (Manomaya Kosa). When the attributes (Gunas) or

feelings are absent, there is no existence of the faculty of mind.

This is referred as the dissolution of mind (Manolaya Yoga). Such a

person remains as the body of food and respiration only without mind.

Such a state is the state of plants and trees. Plants and trees are

made of food and carry on the respiration. The mind is very negligible

and can be considered as absent. The Advaita philosopher has kept this

state as his final goal, which is the state of a tree. It is said that

one becomes whatever he desires (Yat bhavam tat bhavati). If this

philosopher dies in this state only as the final goal, he achieves the

same state by taking birth as a tree.

>

> The state of Avadhuta is a severe state of Advaita philosopher,

where the person is almost in the state of deep sleep. In deep sleep

the awareness attains the eternal basic form, which is the inert

energy. Such a person ending in this state shall be born as an inert

stone which is the inert energy present in the form of matter. It is

not a curse but it is the desired state and is the fixed final goal of

the aspirant only. The aspirant aspired for such state and lived in

such a state for a long time and wishes to remain in that state

continuously. Therefore one need not be angry with Me in this point.

>

> Both the above states (Sanyasa and Avadhuta) are the fruits of

achievement of self-realization in practice which is appreciated as

self-attainment (Atma Yoga). The self attainment should not be the end

of your spiritual effort and is not the final goal. If the self

attainment is the final goal of this precious human life, the future

birth as a tree or a stone is inevitable because of the strong desire

about it. But if this self-attainment happens to be the middle stage

of your journey, such attainment is appreciable. By such

self-attainment you are undisturbed like a stone. You are firm in your

determination like a rock. All this state is only a training given to

you to make you fit for the service of God. If you end with this

training, there is no difference between yourself and a stone. To

become a stone is not the final goal.

>

> To stand firm like a stone in doing service to God is the final

goal. Therefore after attaining the self, we have to search for the

super self, which is available in the human form in your present

generation. Then you have to serve Him in His mission like a rock. For

such dedication, you have to withdraw yourself from all the worldly

bonds and become like the firm mountain. If you withdraw from all the

worldly bonds and remain idle without doing the service to God, then

you are just a stone with awareness. What is the use of such

withdrawal (Pratyahara)? You are given training to become a soldier.

If you do not become a soldier and fight in the war, what is the use

of your training? You should not end with the training. The training

must have its application. The self-attainment is training. Its

application is in the service to God.

>

> At the lotus feet of Shri Datta Swami

> surya

> http://www.universal-spirituality.org

>

>

 

 

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