Guest guest Posted August 14, 2006 Report Share Posted August 14, 2006 On Aug 13, 2006, at 2:28 PM, Sarlo wrote: > At 07:28 AM 8/13/06, Pete wrote: > >> P: If your teachers are deluded, and they are still your teachers, >> then >> you're deluded too. Lulu, you sure don't write like a Buddhist >> monk from >> Tibet. Are you sure you're a monk? > > IP says Zurich (80.238.226.11) P; Ha, ha! He's Erich the baker. Erich Haenseler is the guru of mirror-logy. Thanks, detective Sarlo. Another case solved. You've improved a lot, glad to see it, Erich! A post from long ago: > No road... faster then death Feb 24, 2003 Oh dear, I thought you were in remision, but now the mirror cancer is attacking the brain. All my fault! Shouln't have mention mirrors to a recoverring mirrorholic. )) Pete --- Erich Haenseler <kreativist wrote: > > > Left or right whatever, kendle and mirror are the > whole essence > of who you are, a light reflection. What is this > rosicrucians? > > Why does it take a year until you tell me about this > when I'm > doing nothing else then speaking of mirrors day in > and out! > > You fucking idiots one has to beat the truth outside > you LOL > > Listen up fellows, the truth is everywhere there are > hunderds and > thousands ways to find it the problem is to build a > bridge which > guides you savely back home. > > > Which one should you choose from your thousand > paths? > Mainly you start as innocent devil to become a > noncent god. And > you repeat the same story each lifetime so why > keeping a secret a > secret? Of course in the old days there was a need > for this to > hold up the structure, if you tell the slave hey you > are the > king, what should he say to that? > > However at one point in time, right now we want to > bring those > paths together, do you think all those different > paths teach you > something for no purpose? 17 years I admit is a bit > long but the > essence of truth can be seen in every path and once > you > understand who you are you can understand everything > but I > realize now that throuing a mirror at your face is > not something > to begin with, it is the ultimate the last exercise > one must do. > > And actually pete there's a bit of sence in this, > because the > most simplest is usually the most difficult > exercise. > > On the other hand the mirror and the candle are > telling you a > lie, in fact if you close your eyes this is what you > see, a > mirror and a candle, it's a black mirror and > shimmering white > light is behind it, but that you can not see, > neither do you see > your own image. > > But this exercise can be improoved if you tilt the > mirror 90 > degrees and now look at two candles also the shiva > with the many > arms has done this exercise or how ever her name > was. Cause if > you then put another mirror oposite and a nother > kendle opposite > you can start doing your personal magick's. > > Don't take this by the words but by the meaning. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2006 Report Share Posted August 26, 2006 I just wonder 'who' answered the nonexistente Lulu ? There must be a typing thingy called Sandeep ;O Era .... After my ego disappeared into nothing, it became the ego of everyone else. I am that which remains after the body dies, I am the mirror, I am the soul. I am that which is born into every human being before they start to imagine who they are and who they are not ... " The self disappears, it is no longer distinct from the world and other selves, the dead self now is, the world and all other selves. " My dead self now is the world and all other selves ... .... aldough my " I " is gone fishing, aldough my " ego " has been transcended, aldough my self has evaporaded, ... disappeared, ... died, " it " still is here, " it " is now the world and all other selves ... And what does it mean if my evaporaded self is now the world and all other selves ? my evaporaded self is now suddenly everyone, every self, every ego, every " I " and every " it " . There is no cure against my ego, to kill it, means to kill everyone. I have exchanged one " I " against ALL " I " . And what does it mean if my evaporaded self is every " it " and " I " and ego and self ? aldough my self has evaporaded, the story of my ego and self is not over just yet, where did it evaporate into, where did it go ? it evaporated into all other ego's and selves and " it's " and " I's " . And all the other ego's and selves and " it's " and " I's " who I have evaporaded into have not evaporaded, they continue to live their live, they continue to be themselves, they continue to struggle, they continue to suffer, and search for answers ... the story of the never ending " I " continues, not in my dead body and mind, but in all others, so what happened ? Hihi, my self has evaporaded into all others, I have evaporated into all other selves, I have become all other selves and continue to be deluded in the bodies of all others. The story of the " I " continues inside all other bodies, How ironic is that ? Unless I convince the world and all other selves to evaporate with me, to transcend all distinctions, and go fishing, my " I " will never be distincted, it will just change the body and continue it's struggle, I am fighting against sisyphus symptoms but the " I " problem concerns not just my body, if I free myself, my ego will evaporate into all other ego's and continue it's delusion there, except of course if I regard my " ego " as the only " self " in the whole wide world, then of course, I will have salvation for ever. But how can I have salvation forever, for I am that which always is ever was and always will be deluded. " gurubusters " <sandeepc > > Hello Lulu > Lulu Dong <lulu.dong@> wrote: > > > > > > There is a great delusion, among many of us to what we call > Liberation and Enlightenment. > > > Is that the delusion? > > Or is the delusion about that is " many of us " and about concepts like > " Liberation " and " Enlightenment " ? > > > > > > > > Almost everyone I know including my deluded guru's and teacher's > mistakenly confuse what I call Liberation and Freedom with the Being of > Death. > > > > That if I only free my ego from every sense and desire, this will > liberate me for all time to come. > > And the desire to free your ego from every sense and desire? > Who is it that is to free it's ego form it's sense and desires? > > Is it not the very sense of desire, the very sense of entification? > > Whether that desire is to obtain a bottle of dark Barcadi Rum or > something heard as being referred to as " Liberation " , as " Enlightenment " > > > > > But I am being completely ignorant and absolutely deluded, my > achievement has nothing to do with being liberated and being > enlightened! > > > Who is being completely ignorant? > > > > > > > > > > Of course, in death I experience bliss, peace, freedom, liberation > and silence in never ending dimensions. > > > > Death of who or what? > > Who is it the experiences all that hoopla of bliss, peace, freedom etc? > > Who is it that names what is, in the moment as " being peaceful " , " being > blissful " ........that " this is freedom " etc? > > Who is it for whom " freedom " exists as a conceptual goal,aim, objective > to be achieved....... > > ......thus to whom is the relevance of the very concept of freedom? > Can the quest for freedom exist.........unless there is an apriori > assumption, belief that there is a bondage to be freed from? > > Is freedom in the arriving or reaching or realizing some state which is > termed as " freedom " , thereby naming this arrival, this reaching this > realization as Liberation or Enlightenment? > > Or is freedom in the realization that they very sense of that apriori > assumption, the sense of bondage..........that very sense of a > bondage-to-be- freed- from is a notion of the mind. > > A mind, which itself is of a notional existence. > > > > > > > > But being death doesn't end with the experience of bliss, peace, > freedom, liberation and silence, it is not even the beginning. > > > > Death is a delusion, a fatamorgana, nothing to experience for > nobody. > > > For whom is death? > > Whether that death is a reality or a delusion.......is a secondary > question. > > > > > > > > I think that if I only hide my dead ego the world will cease to > exist. > > > > I think I am no longer the world, once I experience peace and > happiness. > > > > But who is experiencing piece and happiness ? My dead ego ? And if > my dead ego experiences peace and happiness, liberation and freedom, > that means no more than peace and happiness doesn't exist, liberation > and freedom is a delusion because my dead ego doesn't exist, I've killed > it, don't I remember, the experience I experience doesn't count, because > it is experienced by my dead no one. > > > > What does exist is this world. > > > Who asserts this? > > For whom is the world an existential reality? > > In the absence of the " seer " ....... is there the " seen " ? > Every living creature has an identity in it, except for myself who I > destroyed mine, but do I think, do I really believe that destroying my > identity will eventually liberate and free the world ? > > So liberation and freeing of the world is the new quest, new goal, new > objective? > > > > > > > Of course not, but I think that freeing and liberating my own > personal ego and self will solve the problem for all time to come. I am > being ignorant and selfish beyond measure, my focus is on liberating and > freeing myself, but I forget, my experience doesn't count because I > killed the only one who could value my experience. What I say is > meaningless for everybody alive. But here where I am is Bliss. > > > > So if this is what I want for myself, great, but remain aware that > if I only destroy one ego, it will liberate only one tree in the forest, > one drop in the ocean and if I think that I am the entire forest and > ocean, great, go ahead, kill my identity, liberate myself, be the > deluded one. > > > > Leave, the trees, leave the forests, leave the trillion drops making up > the Ocean.................alone > > They are in bliss without even conceptualizing or cognizing the term > " bliss " . > > Apperceive, to whom is the question, quest, search, seeking, of > relevance, of significance? > > Regarding what............ is the question, is the search, is the > seeking..............is of little import? > > > For whom is it,...... of relevance? > > The cognition of the phenomenal world, (which includes the cognition of > sense of a search/seeking)............is a thought, isn't it? > > Who has taken delivery of this thought? > That which always is ever was and always will be, deluded. That which is born into every human being before they start imagening who they really are and who they are not ... That which remains after the body dies, the mirror, the soul. Lulu Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Small Business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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