Guest guest Posted August 16, 2006 Report Share Posted August 16, 2006 Nisargadatta , Adithya K <adithya_comming wrote: > > > > I don't remember " spiritual inquiry " EVER " working " > for me... when I am really " stressed " , > tense or un-peaceful! > > It has given me " fake " turnarounds, > superficial temporary cover-ups, thin > evaporating layers around my " stress " - > but, I don't remember it EVER freeing > me from it! > > Sometimes I have done " spiritual inquiry " when > " stressed " and have even had > Momentarily laughs by the inquiry, work > and turnarounds. Yet, as far as I > remember my " pain " has ALWAYS returned > back pretty soon after that! > > > > > What has worked for me though is: > > - Full Awareness! > > > Full Awareness of EXACTLY " what " I feel. > > Full Awareness of Exactly " how " I feel. > > Full Awareness of EXACTLY " where " I feel. > > > This is kind of directly walking into > the " pain " feeling in order to FULLY > understand it! > > It is doing so with almost a child > like mind just full of curiosity! > > > And, what I have discovered that the > " pain " has almost always disappeared or > has greatly lessened its " scope " once I > tried to become Fully Aware of it! In > many cases, it has been " reduced " to a > trivial " physical " sensation somewhere in > the body in place of heavy emotional > burden that it had appeared like before > this full awareness of it! > > > > And, it is in this surrounding of > " peace " that I have found " spiritual inquiry " to > really work! > > Based on my own personal experience, > my recommendation is... > > - Any time I feel stress, tension, > fear, distress, worry the first step > should be to fully acknowledge it and > to directly SEE " what " and " how " > exactly you feel and " where " ! Anything > else can work only after you have first > completely acknowledged and seen what > exactly is that you feel right Now! > > > As I have experienced, the " stress " , > " tension " , fear (contraction of body) > is kind of a energy build-up waiting > for my full attention and > acknowledgement. It is kind of SIGNAL > to me and the underlying neural network > is waiting for my " Conscious " > " acknowledgement " and receipt before it > can really let go of this signal and > energy build up (muscle tension, > contraction...)! > > And, I have noticed > that FULL Attention is the way I > " acknowledge " it. And, once I do that > the underlying neural network [or body] > lets go of the contraction [tension, > stress, worry, fear] perhaps thinking > that the SIGNAL has successfully > reached the Master and " assured " that > the Master can now do whatever the > Master finds appropriate! > There's a lot of evaluation going on on this list, regarding who knows what and why. Personally, I would say that Adythya exemplifies the purest, most open, most sincere, and certainly, most exemplary posting I have seen on this site. What higher approval can I offer? sky ~*~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2006 Report Share Posted August 17, 2006 Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords wrote: > > Nisargadatta , Adithya K <adithya_comming@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > I don't remember " spiritual inquiry " EVER " working " > > for me... when I am really " stressed " , > > tense or un-peaceful! > > > > It has given me " fake " turnarounds, > > superficial temporary cover-ups, thin > > evaporating layers around my " stress " - > > but, I don't remember it EVER freeing > > me from it! > > > > Sometimes I have done " spiritual inquiry " when > > " stressed " and have even had > > Momentarily laughs by the inquiry, work > > and turnarounds. Yet, as far as I > > remember my " pain " has ALWAYS returned > > back pretty soon after that! > > > > > > > > > > What has worked for me though is: > > > > - Full Awareness! > > > > > > Full Awareness of EXACTLY " what " I feel. > > > > Full Awareness of Exactly " how " I feel. > > > > Full Awareness of EXACTLY " where " I feel. > > > > > > This is kind of directly walking into > > the " pain " feeling in order to FULLY > > understand it! > > > > It is doing so with almost a child > > like mind just full of curiosity! > > > > > > And, what I have discovered that the > > " pain " has almost always disappeared or > > has greatly lessened its " scope " once I > > tried to become Fully Aware of it! In > > many cases, it has been " reduced " to a > > trivial " physical " sensation somewhere in > > the body in place of heavy emotional > > burden that it had appeared like before > > this full awareness of it! > > > > > > > > And, it is in this surrounding of > > " peace " that I have found " spiritual inquiry " to > > really work! > > > > Based on my own personal experience, > > my recommendation is... > > > > - Any time I feel stress, tension, > > fear, distress, worry the first step > > should be to fully acknowledge it and > > to directly SEE " what " and " how " > > exactly you feel and " where " ! Anything > > else can work only after you have first > > completely acknowledged and seen what > > exactly is that you feel right Now! > > > > > > As I have experienced, the " stress " , > > " tension " , fear (contraction of body) > > is kind of a energy build-up waiting > > for my full attention and > > acknowledgement. It is kind of SIGNAL > > to me and the underlying neural network > > is waiting for my " Conscious " > > " acknowledgement " and receipt before it > > can really let go of this signal and > > energy build up (muscle tension, > > contraction...)! > > > > And, I have noticed > > that FULL Attention is the way I > > " acknowledge " it. And, once I do that > > the underlying neural network [or body] > > lets go of the contraction [tension, > > stress, worry, fear] perhaps thinking > > that the SIGNAL has successfully > > reached the Master and " assured " that > > the Master can now do whatever the > > Master finds appropriate! > > > > > > There's a lot of evaluation going on on this list, regarding who knows > what and why. > > Personally, I would say that Adythya exemplifies the purest, most > open, most sincere, and certainly, most exemplary posting I have seen > on this site. > > What higher approval can I offer? > > > > sky > ~*~ > This above all: to thine own self be true " . - Shakespeare (Hamlet Act I, Scene III) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2006 Report Share Posted August 17, 2006 Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , Adithya K <adithya_comming@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't remember " spiritual inquiry " EVER " working " > > > for me... when I am really " stressed " , > > > tense or un-peaceful! > > > > > > It has given me " fake " turnarounds, > > > superficial temporary cover-ups, thin > > > evaporating layers around my " stress " - > > > but, I don't remember it EVER freeing > > > me from it! > > > > > > Sometimes I have done " spiritual inquiry " when > > > " stressed " and have even had > > > Momentarily laughs by the inquiry, work > > > and turnarounds. Yet, as far as I > > > remember my " pain " has ALWAYS returned > > > back pretty soon after that! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What has worked for me though is: > > > > > > - Full Awareness! > > > > > > > > > Full Awareness of EXACTLY " what " I feel. > > > > > > Full Awareness of Exactly " how " I feel. > > > > > > Full Awareness of EXACTLY " where " I feel. > > > > > > > > > This is kind of directly walking into > > > the " pain " feeling in order to FULLY > > > understand it! > > > > > > It is doing so with almost a child > > > like mind just full of curiosity! > > > > > > > > > And, what I have discovered that the > > > " pain " has almost always disappeared or > > > has greatly lessened its " scope " once I > > > tried to become Fully Aware of it! In > > > many cases, it has been " reduced " to a > > > trivial " physical " sensation somewhere in > > > the body in place of heavy emotional > > > burden that it had appeared like before > > > this full awareness of it! > > > > > > > > > > > > And, it is in this surrounding of > > > " peace " that I have found " spiritual inquiry " to > > > really work! > > > > > > Based on my own personal experience, > > > my recommendation is... > > > > > > - Any time I feel stress, tension, > > > fear, distress, worry the first step > > > should be to fully acknowledge it and > > > to directly SEE " what " and " how " > > > exactly you feel and " where " ! Anything > > > else can work only after you have first > > > completely acknowledged and seen what > > > exactly is that you feel right Now! > > > > > > > > > As I have experienced, the " stress " , > > > " tension " , fear (contraction of body) > > > is kind of a energy build-up waiting > > > for my full attention and > > > acknowledgement. It is kind of SIGNAL > > > to me and the underlying neural network > > > is waiting for my " Conscious " > > > " acknowledgement " and receipt before it > > > can really let go of this signal and > > > energy build up (muscle tension, > > > contraction...)! > > > > > > And, I have noticed > > > that FULL Attention is the way I > > > " acknowledge " it. And, once I do that > > > the underlying neural network [or body] > > > lets go of the contraction [tension, > > > stress, worry, fear] perhaps thinking > > > that the SIGNAL has successfully > > > reached the Master and " assured " that > > > the Master can now do whatever the > > > Master finds appropriate! > > > > > > > > > > > There's a lot of evaluation going on on this list, regarding who > knows > > what and why. > > > > Personally, I would say that Adythya exemplifies the purest, most > > open, most sincere, and certainly, most exemplary posting I have > seen > > on this site. > > > > What higher approval can I offer? > > > > > > > > sky > > ~*~ > > > > > > > This above all: to thine own self be true " . - > > Shakespeare (Hamlet Act I, Scene III) > ~~ Polonius LOL!!! .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2006 Report Share Posted August 17, 2006 " skywhilds " <skywords Adithya K <adithya_comming@> > > > > I don't remember " spiritual inquiry " EVER " working " > > for me... when I am really " stressed " , > > tense or un-peaceful! > > > > It has given me " fake " turnarounds, > > superficial temporary cover-ups, thin <snipped bla> > > > There's a lot of evaluation going on on this list, regarding who knows > what and why. > > Personally, I would say that Adythya exemplifies the purest, most > open, most sincere, and certainly, most exemplary posting I have seen > on this site. > > What higher approval can I offer? > Some no-approvals about AC aka Arvind > " adithya_comming " <adithya_comming@> wrote: > > > " Anandgyan " <gyan59@> wrote: > > > > > " adithya_comming " <adithya_comming@> wrote: > > [snip] > > > > > Why do you keep reading something that > > > you consistently say 'stinks', Gyan? > > > > -=-=-=-=- > > > > Don't be puzzled Arvind, > > > > I hardly read what you write. > > > > Only if it's short, and I may be amused > > or when it's addressed to me > > and usually your posts are long > > so I skip it all. > > > > By the way, I was pinpointing > > the anonymous bit. > > > > But you may generalize it all > > and still not be off-the-mark. > > > > You bore me. > > I don't consider it " my " responsiblity > to keep you " entertained " , Gyan! > > Read what you like... > > And, anytime you feel " compelled " to > read what you know so well bores you > - I advise you to work on that " compulsion " . > > > I don't think it is possible for me to > write differantly than what/how I write. > > If that doesn't suit you then advice for you > is to seek something else and stop wasting my > and your time! Arvind! Pay attention! If you fart in an occupied room, and people complain; is this your response? How utterly narcissistic of you! Your 'protests' and FU2 are identical to those of the late, ham-fisted 'ts' and also 'Roberibus', recently unsubbed from NDS. Don't you GET IT, Arvind? YOU GIVE ADVICE AND MAKE COMMANDMENTS by way of your sucking posts! And claiming 'anonymous' only makes them suck ALL THE MORE! 'Do this' 'Don't do that' 'Only do this' etc etc, seems to be your stock in trade here. Well, I guess that makes you a GURU WANNABE, and guess what? This is GURU RATINGS, chump! So just blow your FU and 'just don't read it if you don't like it' right out of your delicate, quivering ASS! Why not start an 'Arvind Blog' as a way of expressing your all-too-effable 'insights', Arvind? But be sure to leave the 'comments' feature 'on' so that your many fans can leave word for you, as to 'how you are doing'. Now tell me; how will you address the dilemma of 'my Vata is so disordered that I cannot conceive of how disordered my Vata is'? ==GP== > > > sky > ~*~ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2006 Report Share Posted August 17, 2006 Nisargadatta , " Era Molnar " <n0ndual wrote: > > > " skywhilds " <skywords@> Adithya K <adithya_comming@> > > > > > > I don't remember " spiritual inquiry " EVER " working " > > > for me... when I am really " stressed " , > > > tense or un-peaceful! > > > > > > It has given me " fake " turnarounds, > > > superficial temporary cover-ups, thin > > > <snipped bla> > > > > > > There's a lot of evaluation going on on this list, regarding who knows > > what and why. > > > > Personally, I would say that Adythya exemplifies the purest, most > > open, most sincere, and certainly, most exemplary posting I have seen > > on this site. > > > > What higher approval can I offer? > > > > > Some no-approvals about AC aka Arvind > > > " adithya_comming " <adithya_comming@> wrote: > > > > > " Anandgyan " <gyan59@> wrote: > > > > > > > " adithya_comming " <adithya_comming@> wrote: > > > [snip] > > > > > > > Why do you keep reading something that > > > > you consistently say 'stinks', Gyan? > > > > > > -=-=-=-=- > > > > > > Don't be puzzled Arvind, > > > > > > I hardly read what you write. > > > > > > Only if it's short, and I may be amused > > > or when it's addressed to me > > > and usually your posts are long > > > so I skip it all. > > > > > > By the way, I was pinpointing > > > the anonymous bit. > > > > > > But you may generalize it all > > > and still not be off-the-mark. > > > > > > You bore me. > > > > I don't consider it " my " responsiblity > > to keep you " entertained " , Gyan! > > > > Read what you like... > > > > And, anytime you feel " compelled " to > > read what you know so well bores you > > - I advise you to work on that " compulsion " . > > > > > > I don't think it is possible for me to > > write differantly than what/how I write. > > > > If that doesn't suit you then advice for you > > is to seek something else and stop wasting my > > and your time! > > > Arvind! Pay attention! > > If you fart in an occupied room, and people > complain; is this your response? > > How utterly narcissistic of you! > > Your 'protests' and FU2 are identical to > those of the late, ham-fisted 'ts' and also > 'Roberibus', recently unsubbed from NDS. > > Don't you GET IT, Arvind? > > YOU GIVE ADVICE AND MAKE COMMANDMENTS > by way of your sucking posts! And claiming 'anonymous' > only makes them suck ALL THE MORE! > > 'Do this' 'Don't do that' 'Only do this' etc etc, seems > to be your stock in trade here. > > Well, I guess that makes you a GURU WANNABE, > and guess what? This is GURU RATINGS, chump! > > So just blow your FU and 'just don't read it if > you don't like it' right out of your delicate, quivering > ASS! > > Why not start an 'Arvind Blog' as a way of expressing > your all-too-effable 'insights', Arvind? But be sure to > leave the 'comments' feature 'on' so that your many > fans can leave word for you, as to 'how you are doing'. > > Now tell me; how will you address the dilemma of > 'my Vata is so disordered that I cannot conceive of > how disordered my Vata is'? > > > ==GP== how boring that a bore gets bored. mentally and physically infirm with his doddering old age, Poole is a droll scatterbrain though. frollicking about, indeed skylarking and cavorting all over the place, with his faster than a sloth on sleeping salts wit......no, no, 'wit' is not the word .....his stumbling attempts at trying to appear coherent, are hardly in the realm of 'wit'......just crazy and stupid japes that he wheezes out with malevolent intent like a craggy gaga, or some malcontent rest home escapee. he is able to come up with this stuff within several days of his first feeling of constipated thought on any issue....which is every issue known to man and hated by the grump. what a chump and a lump.....hey Gene I love you guy......that's why I'm here to tell you that you should stop making such a fool of yourself with these over the top fustians of fools.......they make you look even more weird than you are.....take care sport......you need to. say hi to all the GP fans left .....tha's easy even for you Gene...just use one finger and point it at yourelf, and say, " Hi Big Guy! " ............bob > > > > > > sky > > ~*~ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2006 Report Share Posted August 17, 2006 What higher approval can I offer? sky ~*~ >>>>>>> you talk about " approval " as though it mattered. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2006 Report Share Posted August 17, 2006 Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart wrote: > > What higher approval can I offer? > > sky > ~*~ > >>>>>>> > > you talk about " approval " as though it mattered. > > Bill > that's right. as if it didn't. as if you didn't. as if boundaries, flaming and approval weren't all mutually inclusive. and, as I will continually repeat: there's no buddha in numbness. no buddha in solipsism. and certainly no " freshness " in what you just said. Sorry. Although I do approve of your words at other times. But feigned indifference is definitely pseudo spiritual and banally cavalier if not just typically macho. .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2006 Report Share Posted August 17, 2006 Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > wrote: > > > > What higher approval can I offer? > > > > sky > > ~*~ > > >>>>>>> > > > > you talk about " approval " as though it mattered. > > > > Bill > > > > > > that's right. > > as if it didn't. > > as if you didn't. > > as if boundaries, flaming and approval > > weren't all mutually inclusive. > > > > and, as I will continually repeat: > > > there's no buddha in numbness. > > > no buddha in solipsism. > > > > > > and certainly no " freshness " > > > in what you just said. > > > Sorry. > > > Although I do approve of > > your words at other times. > > > > But feigned indifference > > is definitely pseudo spiritual > > and banally cavalier > > if not just typically > > macho. I'm just saying that the very notion of " approving " of someone or their words strikes me as odd. It implies (to me) a psychology of concern about the approval of others. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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