Guest guest Posted August 17, 2006 Report Share Posted August 17, 2006 The divine knowledge consists of two parts 1) If you are in Pravrutti (path of justice) only, you can attain your self by the self-realization. In this you will be fixed in the self and get detached from the both subtle and gross bodies. By this all the bonds related to gross body and related to feelings (Subtle body) are cut off and you will attain the eternal peace. All your worries, anxiety, tensions, misery, mental pain, dissatisfaction, confusion etc., will disappear forever. You will live with perfect peace through out your life. Peace is your property, which is the characteristic of your soul. You have to think that you are the pure awareness, which is stand still (called as Atman or soul). When you are attached to the gross body or subtle body (Mind), you have lost the peace. If you are attached to the casual body (soul), you have gained your lost peace. 2) In Nivrutti (path of liberation) you attain the Lord who has come in the human form for your sake to give the bliss. Bliss is only the characteristic of Lord as said in Veda (Anando Brahma……). Veda also says that the Lord alone can give bliss to the soul (Eshahyeva Anandayati……). Bliss is not characteristic of the soul. Your property is only the golden chain and not the diamond necklace. You should not think that peace is bliss. By your effort you can attain only peace but not the bliss. You can get the bliss only by nearing yourself to Sadguru who is the human incarnation. You can get the cool breeze when you are near the sea on the shore. If you are in the house, you have avoided the hot sun. By attaining the soul you have come to zero from minus, but that is not plus. Zero is within yourself and bliss is from external agency. When you have attained what you have, it is avoiding loss, which can give only peace but not the bliss. Thus, the divine knowledge of Sadguru gives you atleast peace, which is the earth, if not the bliss, which is the sky. He will give you the knowledge of Atman to give peace. This is essential requirement for anyone in this world. A few blessed people can also get the bliss if they realise that the Sadguru is the Lord Himself. Therefore, you must utilise the full freedom given to you in this human birth and you must destroy all your sins permanently through Nivrutti only. You should be very active to use this unlimited freedom within the limited span of lifetime. When you leave this gross body and go to upper worlds you have no freedom at all and those upper worlds hence are called as " Bhoga Loka " which mean that they are the worlds in which the results are to be enjoyed without any freedom. This earth is called as " Karma Loka " which means the world in which you are given full freedom to do anything. You are given the opportunity to receive the divine knowledge here and if you practice it by determination, your entire fate is changed here and there also. The sages did long penance and sat in the process of self- realization for several ages. They obtained peace of the self but not bliss of the Brahman. Then they realized and approached Lord Krishna as Gopikas for the bliss, which they got in Brindavanam in the vicinity of the Lord (Sayujyam). At the lotus feet of Shri Datta Swami surya http://www.universal-spirituality.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2006 Report Share Posted August 17, 2006 Nisargadatta , " surya " <dattapr2000 wrote: > > The divine knowledge consists of two parts 1) If you are in > Pravrutti (path of justice) only, you can attain your self by the > self-realization. In this you will be fixed in the self and get > detached from the both subtle and gross bodies. By this all the > bonds related to gross body and related to feelings (Subtle body) > are cut off and you will attain the eternal peace. All your worries, > anxiety, tensions, misery, mental pain, dissatisfaction, confusion > etc., will disappear forever. You will live with perfect peace > through out your life. Peace is your property, which is the > characteristic of your soul. You have to think that you are the pure > awareness, which is stand still (called as Atman or soul). When you > are attached to the gross body or subtle body (Mind), you have lost > the peace. If you are attached to the casual body (soul), you have > gained your lost peace. > > 2) In Nivrutti (path of liberation) you attain the Lord who has come > in the human form for your sake to give the bliss. Bliss is only the > characteristic of Lord as said in Veda (Anando Brahma……). Veda also > says that the Lord alone can give bliss to the soul (Eshahyeva > Anandayati……). Bliss is not characteristic of the soul. Your > property is only the golden chain and not the diamond necklace. You > should not think that peace is bliss. By your effort you can attain > only peace but not the bliss. You can get the bliss only by nearing > yourself to Sadguru who is the human incarnation. You can get the > cool breeze when you are near the sea on the shore. If you are in > the house, you have avoided the hot sun. By attaining the soul you > have come to zero from minus, but that is not plus. Zero is within > yourself and bliss is from external agency. When you have attained > what you have, it is avoiding loss, which can give only peace but > not the bliss. Thus, the divine knowledge of Sadguru gives you > atleast peace, which is the earth, if not the bliss, which is the > sky. He will give you the knowledge of Atman to give peace. This is > essential requirement for anyone in this world. > > A few blessed people can also get the bliss if they realise that the > Sadguru is the Lord Himself. Therefore, you must utilise the full > freedom given to you in this human birth and you must destroy all > your sins permanently through Nivrutti only. You should be very > active to use this unlimited freedom within the limited span of > lifetime. When you leave this gross body and go to upper worlds you > have no freedom at all and those upper worlds hence are called > as " Bhoga Loka " which mean that they are the worlds in which the > results are to be enjoyed without any freedom. This earth is called > as " Karma Loka " which means the world in which you are given full > freedom to do anything. You are given the opportunity to receive the > divine knowledge here and if you practice it by determination, your > entire fate is changed here and there also. > > The sages did long penance and sat in the process of self- > realization for several ages. They obtained peace of the self but > not bliss of the Brahman. Then they realized and approached Lord > Krishna as Gopikas for the bliss, which they got in Brindavanam in > the vicinity of the Lord (Sayujyam). > > At the lotus feet of Shri Datta Swami > surya > http://www.universal-spirituality.org > remote and inaccessible: pablum .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2006 Report Share Posted August 17, 2006 " surya " <dattapr2000 > > You have to think that you are the pure > awareness, which is stand still (called as Atman or soul). When you > are attached to the gross body or subtle body (Mind), you have lost > the peace. If you are attached to the casual body (soul), you have > gained your lost peace. > > 2) In Nivrutti (path of liberation) you attain the Lord who has come > in the human form for your sake to give the bliss. <..> > Sadguru is the Lord Himself. .... They obtained peace of the self but > not bliss of the Brahman. Then they realized and approached Lord > Krishna as Gopikas for the bliss, which they got in Brindavanam in > the vicinity of the Lord (Sayujyam). > Reciting from one of 6 Hindu Darshanas again surya ? Nisargadatta Maharaj has said: " That which is prior to consciousness is the Absolute... " With the full realization of the Absolute, both Consciousness and the World-both God (Brahman) and Illusion (Maya)-collapse into zero. " The original state prior to Consciousness cannot be described; one can only be That. " As Buddha Sakyamuni said, there is no permanent subject or Creator. " The sum total of all this is illusion and nobody is responsible for creation-it has come spontaneously and there is no question of improvement in that-it will go on in its own way. " Era > At the lotus feet of Shri Datta Swami > surya > http://www.universal-spirituality.org > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2006 Report Share Posted August 18, 2006 Nisargadatta , " surya " <dattapr2000 wrote: > > The divine knowledge consists of two parts 1) If you are in > Pravrutti (path of justice) only, you can attain your self by the > self-realization. In this you will be fixed in the self and get > detached from the both subtle and gross bodies. By this all the > bonds related to gross body and related to feelings (Subtle body) > are cut off and you will attain the eternal peace. All your worries, > anxiety, tensions, misery, mental pain, dissatisfaction, confusion > etc., will disappear forever. You will live with perfect peace > through out your life. Peace is your property, which is the > characteristic of your soul. You have to think that you are the pure > awareness, which is stand still (called as Atman or soul). When you > are attached to the gross body or subtle body (Mind), you have lost > the peace. If you are attached to the casual body (soul), you have > gained your lost peace. > > 2) In Nivrutti (path of liberation) you attain the Lord who has come > in the human form for your sake to give the bliss. Bliss is only the > characteristic of Lord as said in Veda (Anando Brahma……). Veda also > says that the Lord alone can give bliss to the soul (Eshahyeva > Anandayati……). Bliss is not characteristic of the soul. Your > property is only the golden chain and not the diamond necklace. You > should not think that peace is bliss. By your effort you can attain > only peace but not the bliss. You can get the bliss only by nearing > yourself to Sadguru who is the human incarnation. You can get the > cool breeze when you are near the sea on the shore. If you are in > the house, you have avoided the hot sun. By attaining the soul you > have come to zero from minus, but that is not plus. Zero is within > yourself and bliss is from external agency. When you have attained > what you have, it is avoiding loss, which can give only peace but > not the bliss. Thus, the divine knowledge of Sadguru gives you > atleast peace, which is the earth, if not the bliss, which is the > sky. He will give you the knowledge of Atman to give peace. This is > essential requirement for anyone in this world. > > A few blessed people can also get the bliss if they realise that the > Sadguru is the Lord Himself. Therefore, you must utilise the full > freedom given to you in this human birth and you must destroy all > your sins permanently through Nivrutti only. You should be very > active to use this unlimited freedom within the limited span of > lifetime. When you leave this gross body and go to upper worlds you > have no freedom at all and those upper worlds hence are called > as " Bhoga Loka " which mean that they are the worlds in which the > results are to be enjoyed without any freedom. This earth is called > as " Karma Loka " which means the world in which you are given full > freedom to do anything. You are given the opportunity to receive the > divine knowledge here and if you practice it by determination, your > entire fate is changed here and there also. > > The sages did long penance and sat in the process of self- > realization for several ages. They obtained peace of the self but > not bliss of the Brahman. Then they realized and approached Lord > Krishna as Gopikas for the bliss, which they got in Brindavanam in > the vicinity of the Lord (Sayujyam). > > At the lotus feet of Shri Datta Swami > surya > http://www.universal-spirituality.org > Peace is the background, all that is including what seems to be in opposition to peace, is the experiencing that ever unfolds to allow the rip, the tear, the fall into the 'background'. What emerges is blissful awareness. With every fall. Into experience. Anna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2006 Report Share Posted August 18, 2006 Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " surya " <dattapr2000@> wrote: > > > > The divine knowledge consists of two parts 1) If you are in > > Pravrutti (path of justice) only, you can attain your self by the > > self-realization. In this you will be fixed in the self and get > > detached from the both subtle and gross bodies. By this all the > > bonds related to gross body and related to feelings (Subtle body) > > are cut off and you will attain the eternal peace. All your > worries, > > anxiety, tensions, misery, mental pain, dissatisfaction, confusion > > etc., will disappear forever. You will live with perfect peace > > through out your life. Peace is your property, which is the > > characteristic of your soul. You have to think that you are the > pure > > awareness, which is stand still (called as Atman or soul). When > you > > are attached to the gross body or subtle body (Mind), you have > lost > > the peace. If you are attached to the casual body (soul), you have > > gained your lost peace. > > > > 2) In Nivrutti (path of liberation) you attain the Lord who has > come > > in the human form for your sake to give the bliss. Bliss is only > the > > characteristic of Lord as said in Veda (Anando Brahma……). Veda > also > > says that the Lord alone can give bliss to the soul (Eshahyeva > > Anandayati……). Bliss is not characteristic of the soul. Your > > property is only the golden chain and not the diamond necklace. > You > > should not think that peace is bliss. By your effort you can > attain > > only peace but not the bliss. You can get the bliss only by > nearing > > yourself to Sadguru who is the human incarnation. You can get the > > cool breeze when you are near the sea on the shore. If you are in > > the house, you have avoided the hot sun. By attaining the soul you > > have come to zero from minus, but that is not plus. Zero is within > > yourself and bliss is from external agency. When you have attained > > what you have, it is avoiding loss, which can give only peace but > > not the bliss. Thus, the divine knowledge of Sadguru gives you > > atleast peace, which is the earth, if not the bliss, which is the > > sky. He will give you the knowledge of Atman to give peace. This > is > > essential requirement for anyone in this world. > > > > A few blessed people can also get the bliss if they realise that > the > > Sadguru is the Lord Himself. Therefore, you must utilise the full > > freedom given to you in this human birth and you must destroy all > > your sins permanently through Nivrutti only. You should be very > > active to use this unlimited freedom within the limited span of > > lifetime. When you leave this gross body and go to upper worlds > you > > have no freedom at all and those upper worlds hence are called > > as " Bhoga Loka " which mean that they are the worlds in which the > > results are to be enjoyed without any freedom. This earth is > called > > as " Karma Loka " which means the world in which you are given full > > freedom to do anything. You are given the opportunity to receive > the > > divine knowledge here and if you practice it by determination, > your > > entire fate is changed here and there also. > > > > The sages did long penance and sat in the process of self- > > realization for several ages. They obtained peace of the self but > > not bliss of the Brahman. Then they realized and approached Lord > > Krishna as Gopikas for the bliss, which they got in Brindavanam in > > the vicinity of the Lord (Sayujyam). > > > > At the lotus feet of Shri Datta Swami > > surya > > http://www.universal-spirituality.org > > > > > Peace is the background, all that is including what seems to be in > opposition to peace, is the experiencing that ever unfolds to allow > the rip, the tear, the fall into the 'background'. What emerges is > blissful awareness. With every fall. Into experience. > > Anna > so true and then equally true temporarily so much all the more true: the exact opposite .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2006 Report Share Posted August 18, 2006 dear friend I am experiencing the computer in front of me. If you say the wall is illusion and if i try to walk past it, i will definitely get hit by the wall. How can you say that this is all illusion? A theist believes Lord is the creator and creation is the universe. If you do not believe the existence of creator, it leads to atheism. Please clarify these. At the lotus feet of Shri Datta Swami surya http://www.universal-spirituality.org Era Molnar <n0ndual wrote: As Buddha Sakyamuni said, there is no permanent subject or Creator. " The sum total of all this is illusion and nobody is responsible for creation-it has come spontaneously and there is no question of improvement in that-it will go on in its own way. " Era . Next-gen email? Have it all with the all-new Mail Beta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2006 Report Share Posted August 18, 2006 prakki surya <dattapr2000 Dear Surya, you come here to the Nisargadatta club and post over and over, that ONLY you and your Lord holds the 'truth'. Have your faith, but your' a guest here: so tone your preaching DOWN ! Era > dear friend > > I am experiencing the computer in front of me. If you say the wall is illusion and if i try to walk past it, i will definitely get hit by the wall. How can you say that this is all illusion? > > A theist believes Lord is the creator and creation is the universe. If you do not believe the existence of creator, it leads to atheism. Please clarify these. > > At the lotus feet of Shri Datta Swami > surya > http://www.universal-spirituality.org > > > Era Molnar <n0ndual wrote: > As Buddha Sakyamuni said, there is no permanent subject or Creator. " The sum total of all this is illusion and nobody is responsible for creation-it has come spontaneously and there is no question of improvement in that-it will go on in its own way. " > > Era > > > . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2006 Report Share Posted August 18, 2006 dear friend You have not given clarification to my questions. I never said mine is only true. It is all open for discussion and then conclude. I never criticised any posts in a wrong way. I never made any personal attacks also. I feel that all the talent should be shown in the concept presentation only but not at personal level attack. At the lotus feet of Shri Datta Swami surya http://www.universal-spirituality.org Era Molnar <n0ndual wrote: prakki surya <dattapr2000 Dear Surya, you come here to the Nisargadatta club and post over and over, that ONLY you and your Lord holds the 'truth'. Have your faith, but your' a guest here: so tone your preaching DOWN ! Era > dear friend > > I am experiencing the computer in front of me. If you say the wall is illusion and if i try to walk past it, i will definitely get hit by the wall. How can you say that this is all illusion? > > A theist believes Lord is the creator and creation is the universe. If you do not believe the existence of creator, it leads to atheism. Please clarify these. > > At the lotus feet of Shri Datta Swami > surya > http://www.universal-spirituality.org . How low will we go? Check out Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2006 Report Share Posted August 18, 2006 Nisargadatta , prakki surya <dattapr2000 wrote: > > dear friend > > You have not given clarification to my questions. I never said mine is only true. It is all open for discussion and then conclude. I never criticised any posts in a wrong way. I never made any personal attacks also. > > I feel that all the talent should be shown in the concept presentation only but not at personal level attack. > > At the lotus feet of Shri Datta Swami > surya > http://www.universal-spirituality.org > > Era Molnar <n0ndual wrote: > > > prakki surya <dattapr2000@> > > Dear Surya, you come here to the Nisargadatta club and post over and over, that ONLY you and your Lord holds the 'truth'. > > Have your faith, but your' a guest here: so tone your preaching DOWN ! > > Era > > > dear friend > > > > I am experiencing the computer in front of me. If you say the wall is illusion and if i try to walk past it, i will definitely get hit by the wall. How can you say that this is all illusion? > > > > A theist believes Lord is the creator and creation is the universe. If you do not believe the existence of creator, it leads to atheism. Please clarify these. > > > > At the lotus feet of Shri Datta Swami > > surya > > http://www.universal-spirituality.org > Prakki, I must disagree with you about your desire for civility. Like most people, you are more interested in the color and drama of conflict. This is obvious because when I very civilly ask you questions about your belief system, you completely ignore them. But when you are personally attacked, then, yes, you respond as though unjustly victimized. Only then do you appeal for civility. But you would never follow through with civility. Without blood, especially your own: boredom. Very typical. Very tupical. .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2006 Report Share Posted August 18, 2006 prakki surya <dattapr2000 > dear friend > > You have not given clarification to my questions. E: was this your quetion?: S: I am experiencing the computer in front of me. If you say the wall is illusion and if i try to walk past it, i will definitely get hit by the wall. How can you say that this is all illusion? E: Ok, I take your word for, that you " are experncing the computer etc " --please read Advaita, or the Buddha about what is maya S: I never said mine is only true. It is all open for discussion and then conclude. E: You are pushy with your Lord [*read your words bellow] Datta is assigned to Samkhya and we at this club to Advaita: a NONDUAL thought. You and your Lord is as dual as one can get, but >you come here to the Nisargadatta club and post over and over, that ONLY you and your Lord holds the 'truth'. *surya: " Zero is within yourself and bliss is from external agency. When you have attained what you have, it is avoiding loss, which can give only peace but not the bliss. Thus, the divine knowledge of Sadguru gives you atleast peace, which is the earth, if not the bliss, which is the sky. He will give you the knowledge of Atman to give peace. ..... This earth is called as " Karma Loka " which means the world in which you are given full freedom to do anything. You are given the opportunity to receive the divine knowledge here and if you practice it by determination, your entire fate is changed here and there also. ... At the lotus feet of Shri Datta Swami surya " > >E: Have your faith, but your' a guest here: so tone your preaching DOWN ! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2006 Report Share Posted August 18, 2006 > > >S: A theist believes Lord is the creator and creation is the > universe. If you do not believe the existence of creator, it leads to > atheism. Please clarify these. IMHO God is a man made idea, I'm not an atheist; I just leave the creator and the Genesis stories alone. .................... >S: I never > criticised any posts in a wrong way. I never made any personal attacks > also. > > > > I feel that all the talent should be shown in the concept > presentation only but not at personal level attack. > > > Prakki, > > > I must disagree with you about your desire for civility. Like most > people, you are more interested in the color and drama of conflict. > > This is obvious because when I very civilly ask you questions about > your belief system, you completely ignore them. But when you are > personally attacked, then, yes, you respond as though unjustly victimized. > > Only then do you appeal for civility. But you would never follow > through with civility. Without blood, especially your own: boredom. > > Very typical. Yes. Very typical troll behaviour Era > Very tupical. > ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2006 Report Share Posted August 19, 2006 atheiests deny and you are forgetting or leaving. In essence it comes to same. spiritual discussions should revolve around Lord, devotion and service to Him. What puzzles me is that many a times we claim spiritual but if we have to discuss a little bit about Brahma Jnana or divine knowledge, we don't have much interest/patience at all. It is looking like a paradox. The very aim of spiritual effort is to achieve Him and then to please Him. Even a very little prayer we do is also to please Lord and then get boons. How can you leave lord and still have spiritual discussions? What civilly you asked and I have not answered? You are most welcome to ask questions. At the lotus feet of Shri Datta Swami surya http://www.universal-spirituality.org Era Molnar <n0ndual wrote: IMHO God is a man made idea, I'm not atheist; I just leave the creator and the Genesis stories alone. > Prakki, > I must disagree with you about your desire for civility. Like most > people, you are more interested in the color and drama of conflict. > > This is obvious because when I very civilly ask you questions about > your belief system, you completely ignore them. But when you are > personally attacked, then, yes, you respond as though unjustly victimized. > > Only then do you appeal for civility. But you would never follow > through with civility. Without blood, especially your own: boredom. > > Very typical. Yes. Very typial troll behaviour Era . How low will we go? Check out Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2006 Report Share Posted August 19, 2006 And you, sir, are forgetting the Goddess aspect of the Lord, The Lord many be the One, but the Goddess is the Many. Not two, Not One. This is Advaita. and love is the beginning, middle and end result of spiritual discussions when God and Goddess meet in a human heart. Namaste, Anna Nisargadatta , prakki surya <dattapr2000 wrote: > > atheiests deny and you are forgetting or leaving. In essence it comes to same. spiritual discussions should revolve around Lord, devotion and service to Him. What puzzles me is that many a times we claim spiritual but if we have to discuss a little bit about Brahma Jnana or divine knowledge, we don't have much interest/patience at all. It is looking like a paradox. > > The very aim of spiritual effort is to achieve Him and then to please Him. Even a very little prayer we do is also to please Lord and then get boons. How can you leave lord and still have spiritual discussions? > > What civilly you asked and I have not answered? You are most welcome to ask questions. > > At the lotus feet of Shri Datta Swami > surya > http://www.universal-spirituality.org > > Era Molnar <n0ndual wrote: > > IMHO God is a man made idea, I'm not atheist; I just leave the creator and the Genesis stories alone. > > Prakki, > > I must disagree with you about your desire for civility. Like most > > people, you are more interested in the color and drama of conflict. > > > > This is obvious because when I very civilly ask you questions about > > your belief system, you completely ignore them. But when you are > > personally attacked, then, yes, you respond as though unjustly victimized. > > > > Only then do you appeal for civility. But you would never follow > > through with civility. Without blood, especially your own: boredom. > > > > Very typical. > > Yes. > > Very typial troll behaviour > > Era > > > . > > > > > > How low will we go? Check out Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2006 Report Share Posted August 19, 2006 Lord is Male or female? Lord is only one. It is immaterial whether Lord is male or female. Any way the male and female concept applies to the creation but not to Lord who is the creator and is beyond the creation. When He comes in human incarnation, He may appear in male form (like Jesus, krishna, rama, prophet, buddha, Rama krishna paramahamsa etc.) and from this we need not conclude that Lord is male. If creation is prakruti (feminine) then Lord is purusha (masculine) ; if creation is purusha then Lord is purushottama Veda says there are no words to explain Parabrahman (Mauna Vyakhya Prakatita Parabrahman). At the lotus feet of Shri Datta Swami Surya www.universal-spirituality.org anabebe57 <kailashana wrote: And you, sir, are forgetting the Goddess aspect of the Lord, The Lord many be the One, but the Goddess is the Many. Not two, Not One. This is Advaita. and love is the beginning, middle and end result of spiritual discussions when God and Goddess meet in a human heart. Namaste, Anna Nisargadatta , prakki surya <dattapr2000 wrote: > > atheiests deny and you are forgetting or leaving. In essence it comes to same. spiritual discussions should revolve around Lord, devotion and service to Him. What puzzles me is that many a times we claim spiritual but if we have to discuss a little bit about Brahma Jnana or divine knowledge, we don't have much interest/patience at all. It is looking like a paradox. > > The very aim of spiritual effort is to achieve Him and then to please Him. Even a very little prayer we do is also to please Lord and then get boons. How can you leave lord and still have spiritual discussions? > > What civilly you asked and I have not answered? You are most welcome to ask questions. > > At the lotus feet of Shri Datta Swami > surya > http://www.universal-spirituality.org . Next-gen email? Have it all with the all-new Mail Beta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2006 Report Share Posted August 20, 2006 Perhaps we say the same things, Prakki Surya, and it is we, in our human forms of male and female who separate thought by the very nature and essence of our physical bodies' separation from the unknown into the known. From the materiality of physicality into human bodies. How we bridge this first separation is as important to the heavens as it is to earth. Witness the world. And how religions serve to continue this separation at the expense of one sex or another. We do need to speak of this, we do need healing. Love bridges all distance. Anna Nisargadatta , prakki surya <dattapr2000 wrote: > > Lord is Male or female? Lord is only one. It is immaterial whether Lord is male or female. Any way the male and female concept applies to the creation but not to Lord who is the creator and is beyond the creation. When He comes in human incarnation, He may appear in male form (like Jesus, krishna, rama, prophet, buddha, Rama krishna paramahamsa etc.) and from this we need not conclude that Lord is male. > If creation is prakruti (feminine) then Lord is purusha (masculine) ; if creation is purusha then Lord is purushottama > > Veda says there are no words to explain Parabrahman (Mauna Vyakhya Prakatita Parabrahman). > > At the lotus feet of Shri Datta Swami > Surya > www.universal-spirituality.org > > > anabebe57 <kailashana wrote: > And you, sir, are forgetting the Goddess aspect of the Lord, > The Lord many be the One, but the Goddess is the Many. > > Not two, Not One. This is Advaita. > > and love is the beginning, middle and end result of spiritual > discussions when God and Goddess meet in a human heart. > > Namaste, > Anna > > Nisargadatta , prakki surya <dattapr2000@> > wrote: > > > > atheiests deny and you are forgetting or leaving. In essence it > comes to same. spiritual discussions should revolve around Lord, > devotion and service to Him. What puzzles me is that many a times we > claim spiritual but if we have to discuss a little bit about Brahma > Jnana or divine knowledge, we don't have much interest/patience at > all. It is looking like a paradox. > > > > The very aim of spiritual effort is to achieve Him and then to > please Him. Even a very little prayer we do is also to please Lord > and then get boons. How can you leave lord and still have spiritual > discussions? > > > > What civilly you asked and I have not answered? You are most > welcome to ask questions. > > > > At the lotus feet of Shri Datta Swami > > surya > > http://www.universal-spirituality.org > > > . > > > > > > > Next-gen email? Have it all with the all-new Mail Beta. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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