Guest guest Posted August 17, 2006 Report Share Posted August 17, 2006 > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " > <skywords > wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " > <pliantheart@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " > <skywords@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , > " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > What higher approval can I offer? > > > > > > > > sky > > > > ~*~ > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > > > you talk about " approval " as though it > mattered. > > > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's right. > > > > > > as if it didn't. > > > > > > as if you didn't. > > > > > > as if boundaries, flaming and approval > > > > > > weren't all mutually inclusive. > > > > > > > > > > > > and, as I will continually repeat: > > > > > > > > > there's no buddha in numbness. > > > > > > > > > no buddha in solipsism. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and certainly no " freshness " > > > > > > > > > in what you just said. > > > > > > > > > Sorry. > > > > > > > > > Although I do approve of > > > > > > your words at other times. > > > > > > > > > > > > But feigned indifference > > > > > > is definitely pseudo spiritual > > > > > > and banally cavalier > > > > > > if not just typically > > > > > > macho. > > > > I'm just saying that the very notion > > of " approving " of someone or their words > > strikes me as odd. It implies (to me) a > > psychology of concern about the approval > > of others. > > > > Bill > > > > > And I'm just saying that the very notion > > that you yourself continue > > to insist that you aren't even aware > > of how completely influenced you yourself are > > by whether others " approve " or " disapprove " of you > > is incredible > > > > You are constantly offering both approval > > and disapproval > > > And vehemently so. > > > > And yet you claim to be > > unaware of this? > > > Unaware of how important > > others' opinions are to you? > > > This is the kind of thing > > that makes me think you > > might be on meds. > > > > But, again, I mean > > no offense because I'm > > being honest. It is insensitive of me. > > But you claim not to care, don't you? > > And yet you set boundaries? > > > > My incredulity is > > really my weakness > > > I'm in some kind of denial > > > Why can't I comprehend this? > > > I remember the expression, > > " too tough to care. " > > > But, in effect, coming from someone > > who claims to have compassion...? > > > Oh, hmm, maybe you're just too busy > > to really think about it. Yes, I'm sure that > > must be it. > > > > OK, I get it. > Sky, This is an appeal to compassion, if not, then your formidable intellect. From what I have observed of your writing I think you must be aware that sometimes boundaries are necessary for people to function, at least at certain stages of their lives. This is a very individual thing, no doubt you realize. Some people can take well-intended confrontation and perhaps drop their boundaries moving into more productive and complete lives. Others cannot and may fall into complete disorganization. Some never recover. Think! For the record I am not implying Bill is someone who may fall into disorganization. The fact is no one knows. Compassion! Noel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2006 Report Share Posted August 17, 2006 Nisargadatta , Noel <noel_beau wrote: > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " > > <skywords@> > > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " > > <pliantheart@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " > > <skywords@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , > > " pliantheart " <pliantheart@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > What higher approval can I offer? > > > > > > > > > > sky > > > > > ~*~ > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > you talk about " approval " as though it > > mattered. > > > > > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's right. > > > > > > > > as if it didn't. > > > > > > > > as if you didn't. > > > > > > > > as if boundaries, flaming and approval > > > > > > > > weren't all mutually inclusive. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and, as I will continually repeat: > > > > > > > > > > > > there's no buddha in numbness. > > > > > > > > > > > > no buddha in solipsism. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and certainly no " freshness " > > > > > > > > > > > > in what you just said. > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry. > > > > > > > > > > > > Although I do approve of > > > > > > > > your words at other times. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But feigned indifference > > > > > > > > is definitely pseudo spiritual > > > > > > > > and banally cavalier > > > > > > > > if not just typically > > > > > > > > macho. > > > > > > I'm just saying that the very notion > > > of " approving " of someone or their words > > > strikes me as odd. It implies (to me) a > > > psychology of concern about the approval > > > of others. > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > And I'm just saying that the very notion > > > > that you yourself continue > > > > to insist that you aren't even aware > > > > of how completely influenced you yourself are > > > > by whether others " approve " or " disapprove " of you > > > > is incredible > > > > > > > > You are constantly offering both approval > > > > and disapproval > > > > > > And vehemently so. > > > > > > > > And yet you claim to be > > > > unaware of this? > > > > > > Unaware of how important > > > > others' opinions are to you? > > > > > > This is the kind of thing > > > > that makes me think you > > > > might be on meds. > > > > > > > > But, again, I mean > > > > no offense because I'm > > > > being honest. It is insensitive of me. > > > > But you claim not to care, don't you? > > > > And yet you set boundaries? > > > > > > > > My incredulity is > > > > really my weakness > > > > > > I'm in some kind of denial > > > > > > Why can't I comprehend this? > > > > > > I remember the expression, > > > > " too tough to care. " > > > > > > But, in effect, coming from someone > > > > who claims to have compassion...? > > > > > > Oh, hmm, maybe you're just too busy > > > > to really think about it. Yes, I'm sure that > > > > must be it. > > > > > > > > OK, I get it. > > > > > Sky, > > This is an appeal to compassion, if not, then your > formidable intellect. > > From what I have observed of your writing I think you > must be aware that sometimes boundaries are necessary > for people to function, at least at certain stages of > their lives. This is a very individual thing, no > doubt you realize. > > Some people can take well-intended confrontation and > perhaps drop their boundaries moving into more > productive and complete lives. Others cannot and may > fall into complete disorganization. Some never > recover. > > Think! > > For the record I am not implying Bill is someone who > may fall into disorganization. The fact is no one > knows. Compassion! > > Noel You're a very good man, Noel sky ~*~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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