Guest guest Posted August 22, 2006 Report Share Posted August 22, 2006 perhaps since the ego is imaginary, any apparent death of the ego is also imaginary? -=- BINGO! -=- There is an end to self-grasping, however. -=-let the discussion (which Era suggests) begin. what is the so-called ego-death that many teachers refer to? -------------------------------- J: From a 'em Buddhist perspective - First Step - considering the possibility of emptiness of lack of self in the person. Why is this important? Because the clinging to the IDEA that one has a single, permanent, independent, truly existent self/ego is the root cause of all one's suffering. One does not have to have an explicit or clearly formulated idea of self in order to act as if one has an ego. Both animals & humans act as if they have a self to preserve & protect which is automatic and instinctive. The implication is that this self/ego would be happy if all pain, irritation, stress & suffering were removed & most of our life is directed towards this aim. The first investigation would be to watch dispassionately & ardently how the mind (attention/focus) clings to the IDEA of self - the emotional reactions of 'me', 'mine' etc. & see how suffering arises from this attachment. One looks for this self to try to isolate it from experience (seeing. hearing, thinking, sensation etc) & to try to identify & locate it. Any rational analysis shows that person, personality, ego, is a changing, composite train/chain of events conditioned by many complex factors. The question is, why do we behave emotionally as it were lasting, single, & independent? Thus when we are looking for this 'ego' it is important to remember that we are examining our emotional responses. When one responds to events as if one had an ego, e.g. when one feels hurt or offended, one should ask oneself who or what is feeling hurt or offended; who is afraid of what might happen in the future and why does death seem like such a threat when the present disappears every moment? If one continually addresses oneself to what or who this self is, can it be found? There is a tremendous emptional resistence to the realization that this ego cannot be found. Fantasies about " ego-death " are part of this resistence. It can take a long time to break through but when this happens there is an immediate release of tension & feeling of freedom & joy. This cause of suffering is gone. The cause of suffering was a deep mental attachment to something that was not there. There is nothing more important than to realize that when one acts AS IF mind and body constitute a lasting, single, separate, independent ego, one unthinkingly, without awareness, attributes to them qualities they do not have. Nothing in the stream of mental & physical phenomena that constitutes one's experience of body & mind has the quality of separate, independent, lasting existence. It is all change. Impermanence moment to moment & so none of it can be an 'ego' or self & it is one's persistent effort to treat it AS IF IT WERE that causes our constant stream of suffering. So - what happens is that if one continually investigates, there can be a release of the mental attachment to something that was imagined, a conditioned belief in ego. Something that was never there in the first place can't die but one will live with the fear of death until one sees this. (die before you die is great advice) This is only a beginning step - freedom from one deeply engrained conditioning - more path to travel. Joyce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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