Guest guest Posted September 1, 2006 Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 There is no second, or higher self to search for. You are the highest self, only give up the false ideas you have about your self. (517) My self and your self are one. I know it, but you don't. That is all the difference . (88) Helping others is mere imagination. In truth you do not help others, because there are no others. (313) In reality there are no others, and by helping others you help yourself. (383) I am the other person, the other person is myself; in name and shape we are different, but there is no separation. At the root of our being we are one. (511) Nisargadatta Maharaj Page numbers are from the book I Am That. Forward from Nondual Highlights Editor: Jerry Katz, Lulu Dong Where will I come out if I enter the mirror ? Where is the exit ? Where will my imagination take me ? Where is the end of my imagination ? Is there a deluded self in this world, deluded enough for me to step inside ? Is there a body deluded enough, to adopt my travelling soul, letting me look out of his or her eyes ? There is nothing in this world I would like to do more than to step through my mirror and travel into some other body taking a look at my own deluded self, taking a look at my own deluded words, listen to my own deluded voice. Want you tell me how, how can I travel through my mirror into yours ? How can I travel from my body into yours ? Lulu Dong Get on board. You're invited to try the new Mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2006 Report Share Posted September 2, 2006 --- Lulu Dong <lulu.dong > wrote: > There is no second, or higher self to search for. > You are the > highest self, only give up the false ideas you have > about your self. > (517) > > My self and your self are one. I know it, but you > don't. That is all > the difference . (88) > > Helping others is mere imagination. In truth you do > not help > others, because there are no others. (313) > > In reality there are no others, and by helping > others you help > yourself. (383) > > I am the other person, the other person is myself; > in name and shape > we are different, but there is no separation. At the > root of our being > we are one. (511) > > > Nisargadatta Maharaj > Page numbers are from the book I Am That. > > Forward from Nondual Highlights Editor: Jerry > Katz, Lulu Dong > > > > Where will I come out if I enter the mirror ? > Where is the exit ? > Where will my imagination take me ? > Where is the end of my imagination ? > Is there a deluded self in this world, deluded > enough for me to step inside ? > Is there a body deluded enough, to adopt my > travelling soul, letting me look out of his or her > eyes ? > > There is nothing in this world I would like to do > more than to step through my mirror and travel into > some other body taking a look at my own deluded > self, taking a look at my own deluded words, listen > to my own deluded voice. > > Want you tell me how, how can I travel through my > mirror into yours ? > How can I travel from my body into yours ? > > Lulu Dong To paraphrase Krishnamurti: A creates B B does not exist apart from A the conflict to become B is illusory and falacious. If you recognize the conflict to be non-essential and false, then conflict ceases. Reginam Speramus writes: Bodies that enter a mirror, urge to reflect out. Lulu Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2006 Report Share Posted September 2, 2006 Nisargadatta , Lulu Dong <lulu.dong wrote: > > --- Lulu Dong <lulu.dong > wrote: > > > There is no second, or higher self to search for. > > You are the > > highest self, only give up the false ideas you have > > about your self. > > (517) > > > > My self and your self are one. I know it, but you > > don't. That is all > > the difference . (88) > > > > Helping others is mere imagination. In truth you do > > not help > > others, because there are no others. (313) > > > > In reality there are no others, and by helping > > others you help > > yourself. (383) > > > > I am the other person, the other person is myself; > > in name and shape > > we are different, but there is no separation. At the > > root of our being > > we are one. (511) > > > > > > Nisargadatta Maharaj > > Page numbers are from the book I Am That. > > > > Forward from Nondual Highlights Editor: Jerry > > Katz, Lulu Dong > > > > > > > > Where will I come out if I enter the mirror ? > > Where is the exit ? > > Where will my imagination take me ? > > Where is the end of my imagination ? > > Is there a deluded self in this world, deluded > > enough for me to step inside ? > > Is there a body deluded enough, to adopt my > > travelling soul, letting me look out of his or her > > eyes ? > > > > There is nothing in this world I would like to do > > more than to step through my mirror and travel into > > some other body taking a look at my own deluded > > self, taking a look at my own deluded words, listen > > to my own deluded voice. > > > > Want you tell me how, how can I travel through my > > mirror into yours ? > > How can I travel from my body into yours ? > > > > Lulu Dong > > To paraphrase Krishnamurti: > > A creates B > > B does not exist apart from A > > the conflict to become B > > is illusory and falacious. > > If you recognize the conflict > > to be non-essential and false, > > then conflict ceases. > > > Reginam Speramus writes: > Bodies that enter a mirror, urge to reflect out. > > Lulu > > > whats the cause of conflict ? .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2006 Report Share Posted September 2, 2006 Nisargadatta , Lulu Dong <lulu.dong wrote: > > There is no second, or higher self to search for. You are the > highest self, only give up the false ideas you have about your self. > (517) > > My self and your self are one. I know it, but you don't. That is all > the difference . (88) > > Helping others is mere imagination. In truth you do not help > others, because there are no others. (313) > > In reality there are no others, and by helping others you help > yourself. (383) > > I am the other person, the other person is myself; in name and shape > we are different, but there is no separation. At the root of our being > we are one. (511) > > > Nisargadatta Maharaj > Page numbers are from the book I Am That. > > Forward from Nondual Highlights Editor: Jerry Katz, Lulu Dong > > > > Where will I come out if I enter the mirror ? > Where is the exit ? > Where will my imagination take me ? > Where is the end of my imagination ? > Is there a deluded self in this world, deluded enough for me to step inside ? > Is there a body deluded enough, to adopt my travelling soul, letting me look out of his or her eyes ? > > There is nothing in this world I would like to do more than to step through my mirror and travel into some other body taking a look at my own deluded self, taking a look at my own deluded words, listen to my own deluded voice. > > Want you tell me how, how can I travel through my mirror into yours ? > How can I travel from my body into yours ? > > Lulu Dong > > > > maby its a bit misleading to use the mirror-metaphor... because it can appear to be a separation between " a looker " and " the on-looked " (mirage)...just dont take the (so called " looker " ) for an object...a thing...it is not an object or a thing...it is pure nothing-ness...and when this is realized in being...the so called mirror can never become a problem...it is just a natural flow of life...it is not a mirror anymore...it is what is... .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2006 Report Share Posted September 2, 2006 Each mirror and it's Being is an entrance to the crystallight continuum ! Through the continuum one can travel into every other mirror in the universe or another universe, as long as you can imagine the exit. But with an exit alone you can not consciously travel to other places and times, there also has to be a conscious receiver in the other mirror, a body which you can project yourself into, because you can not travel with your own body through the mirror but only with your consciousness. Lulu. --- Lulu Dong <lulu.dong > wrote: > There is no second, or higher self to search for. > You are the > highest self, only give up the false ideas you have > about your self. > (517) > > My self and your self are one. I know it, but you > don't. That is all > the difference . (88) > > Helping others is mere imagination. In truth you do > not help > others, because there are no others. (313) > > In reality there are no others, and by helping > others you help > yourself. (383) > > I am the other person, the other person is myself; > in name and shape > we are different, but there is no separation. At the > root of our being > we are one. (511) > > > Nisargadatta Maharaj > Page numbers are from the book I Am That. > > Forward from Nondual Highlights Editor: Jerry > Katz, Lulu Dong > > > > Where will I come out if I enter the mirror ? > Where is the exit ? > Where will my imagination take me ? > Where is the end of my imagination ? > Is there a deluded self in this world, deluded > enough for me to step inside ? > Is there a body deluded enough, to adopt my > travelling soul, letting me look out of his or her > eyes ? > > There is nothing in this world I would like to do > more than to step through my mirror and travel into > some other body taking a look at my own deluded > self, taking a look at my own deluded words, listen > to my own deluded voice. > > Want you tell me how, how can I travel through my > mirror into yours ? > How can I travel from my body into yours ? > > Lulu Dong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2006 Report Share Posted September 2, 2006 Nisargadatta, Lulu Dong <lulu.dong@. ..> wrote: > > There is no second, or higher self to search for. You are the > highest self, only give up the false ideas you have about your self. > (517) > > My self and your self are one. I know it, but you don't. That is all > the difference . (88) > > Helping others is mere imagination. In truth you do not help > others, because there are no others. (313) > > In reality there are no others, and by helping others you help > yourself. (383) > > I am the other person, the other person is myself; in name and shape > we are different, but there is no separation. At the root of our being > we are one. (511) > > > Nisargadatta Maharaj > Page numbers are from the book I Am That. > > Forward from Nondual Highlights Editor: Jerry Katz, Lulu Dong > > > > Where will I come out if I enter the mirror ? > Where is the exit ? > Where will my imagination take me ? > Where is the end of my imagination ? > Is there a deluded self in this world, deluded enough for me to step inside ? > Is there a body deluded enough, to adopt my travelling soul, letting me look out of his or her eyes ? > > There is nothing in this world I would like to do more than to step through my mirror and travel into some other body taking a look at my own deluded self, taking a look at my own deluded words, listen to my own deluded voice. > > Want you tell me how, how can I travel through my mirror into yours ? > How can I travel from my body into yours ? > > Lulu Dong > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- maby its a bit misleading to use the mirror-metaphor. .. because it can appear to be a separation between " a looker " and " the on-looked " (mirage)...just dont take the (so called " looker " ) for an object...a thing...it is not an object or a thing...it is pure nothing-ness. ..and when this is realized in being...the so called mirror can never become a problem...it is just a natural flow of life...it is not a mirror anymore...it is what is... Want you tell me how nothing-ness or that what is can travel from my body into yours ? Lulu How low will we go? Check out Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2006 Report Share Posted September 2, 2006 Nisargadatta , Lulu Dong <lulu.dong wrote: > > Nisargadatta, Lulu Dong <lulu.dong@ ..> wrote: > > > > There is no second, or higher self to search for. You are the > > highest self, only give up the false ideas you have about your > self. > > (517) > > > > My self and your self are one. I know it, but you don't. That is > all > > the difference . (88) > > > > Helping others is mere imagination. In truth you do not help > > others, because there are no others. (313) > > > > In reality there are no others, and by helping others you help > > yourself. (383) > > > > I am the other person, the other person is myself; in name and > shape > > we are different, but there is no separation. At the root of our > being > > we are one. (511) > > > > > > Nisargadatta Maharaj > > Page numbers are from the book I Am That. > > > > Forward from Nondual Highlights Editor: Jerry Katz, Lulu Dong > > > > > > > > Where will I come out if I enter the mirror ? > > Where is the exit ? > > Where will my imagination take me ? > > Where is the end of my imagination ? > > Is there a deluded self in this world, deluded enough for me to > step inside ? > > Is there a body deluded enough, to adopt my travelling soul, > letting me look out of his or her eyes ? > > > > There is nothing in this world I would like to do more than to > step through my mirror and travel into some other body taking a look > at my own deluded self, taking a look at my own deluded words, > listen to my own deluded voice. > > > > Want you tell me how, how can I travel through my mirror into > yours ? > > How can I travel from my body into yours ? > > > > Lulu Dong > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > maby its a bit misleading to use the mirror-metaphor. .. > because it can appear to be a separation between " a looker " and " the > on-looked " (mirage)...just dont take the (so called " looker " ) for an > object...a thing...it is not an object or a thing...it is pure > nothing-ness. ..and when this is realized in being...the so called > mirror can never become a problem...it is just a natural flow of > life...it is not a mirror anymore...it is what is... > > > Want you tell me how nothing-ness or that what is can travel from my body into yours ? > > Lulu > > > > what can travel from one place to another is (something)... (not nothing-ness)... all (somethings) are within nothingness...in oneness (not duality) nothingness cannot move...because it has no body...it is not a thing...it is not in movement...it is not becoming bigger or smaller..hotter or colder...faster or slower... " what is " is within this nothingness...and your body is part of " what is " just like the birds and the cars and the clouds....if you listen to " what is " like a piece of sweet mucis...or to someone that you love deeply with all your heart... then there is a chance that you will knowingly will be that nothing- ness... .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2006 Report Share Posted September 2, 2006 In Nisargadatta, Lulu Dong <lulu.dong@. ..> wrote: > > Nisargadatta, Lulu Dong <lulu.dong@ ..> wrote: > > > > There is no second, or higher self to search for. You are the > > highest self, only give up the false ideas you have about your > self. > > (517) > > > > My self and your self are one. I know it, but you don't. That is > all > > the difference . (88) > > > > Helping others is mere imagination. In truth you do not help > > others, because there are no others. (313) > > > > In reality there are no others, and by helping others you help > > yourself. (383) > > > > I am the other person, the other person is myself; in name and > shape > > we are different, but there is no separation. At the root of our > being > > we are one. (511) > > > > > > Nisargadatta Maharaj > > Page numbers are from the book I Am That. > > > > Forward from Nondual Highlights Editor: Jerry Katz, Lulu Dong > > > > > > > > Where will I come out if I enter the mirror ? > > Where is the exit ? > > Where will my imagination take me ? > > Where is the end of my imagination ? > > Is there a deluded self in this world, deluded enough for me to > step inside ? > > Is there a body deluded enough, to adopt my travelling soul, > letting me look out of his or her eyes ? > > > > There is nothing in this world I would like to do more than to > step through my mirror and travel into some other body taking a look > at my own deluded self, taking a look at my own deluded words, > listen to my own deluded voice. > > > > Want you tell me how, how can I travel through my mirror into > yours ? > > How can I travel from my body into yours ? > > > > Lulu Dong > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > maby its a bit misleading to use the mirror-metaphor. .. > because it can appear to be a separation between " a looker " and " the > on-looked " (mirage)...just dont take the (so called " looker " ) for an > object...a thing...it is not an object or a thing...it is pure > nothing-ness. ..and when this is realized in being...the so called > mirror can never become a problem...it is just a natural flow of > life...it is not a mirror anymore...it is what is... > > > Want you tell me how nothing-ness or that what is can travel from my body into yours ? > > Lulu > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- what can travel from one place to another is (something). .. (not nothing-ness) ... all (somethings) are within nothingness. ..in oneness (not duality) nothingness cannot move...because it has no body...it is not a thing...it is not in movement...it is not becoming bigger or smaller..hotter or colder...faster or slower... " what is " is within this nothingness. ..and your body is part of " what is " just like the birds and the cars and the clouds....if you listen to " what is " like a piece of sweet mucis...or to someone that you love deeply with all your heart... then there is a chance that you will knowingly will be that nothing- ness... .... I'm sorry again, but when I read your message I don't understand my own deluded words, I don't see that myself is supposed to write your words, I don't understand what you are trying to say. I don't see my nothing-ness in you. Lu Get on board. You're invited to try the new Mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2006 Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 Nisargadatta , Lulu Dong <lulu.dong wrote: > > In Nisargadatta, Lulu Dong <lulu.dong@ ..> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta, Lulu Dong <lulu.dong@ ..> > wrote: > > > > > > There is no second, or higher self to search for. You are the > > > highest self, only give up the false ideas you have about your > > self. > > > (517) > > > > > > My self and your self are one. I know it, but you don't. That is > > all > > > the difference . (88) > > > > > > Helping others is mere imagination. In truth you do not help > > > others, because there are no others. (313) > > > > > > In reality there are no others, and by helping others you help > > > yourself. (383) > > > > > > I am the other person, the other person is myself; in name and > > shape > > > we are different, but there is no separation. At the root of our > > being > > > we are one. (511) > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta Maharaj > > > Page numbers are from the book I Am That. > > > > > > Forward from Nondual Highlights Editor: Jerry Katz, Lulu Dong > > > > > > > > > > > > Where will I come out if I enter the mirror ? > > > Where is the exit ? > > > Where will my imagination take me ? > > > Where is the end of my imagination ? > > > Is there a deluded self in this world, deluded enough for me to > > step inside ? > > > Is there a body deluded enough, to adopt my travelling soul, > > letting me look out of his or her eyes ? > > > > > > There is nothing in this world I would like to do more than to > > step through my mirror and travel into some other body taking a > look > > at my own deluded self, taking a look at my own deluded words, > > listen to my own deluded voice. > > > > > > Want you tell me how, how can I travel through my mirror into > > yours ? > > > How can I travel from my body into yours ? > > > > > > Lulu Dong > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > > maby its a bit misleading to use the mirror-metaphor. .. > > because it can appear to be a separation between " a looker " > and " the > > on-looked " (mirage)...just dont take the (so called " looker " ) for > an > > object...a thing...it is not an object or a thing...it is pure > > nothing-ness. ..and when this is realized in being...the so called > > mirror can never become a problem...it is just a natural flow of > > life...it is not a mirror anymore...it is what is... > > > > > > Want you tell me how nothing-ness or that what is can travel > from my body into yours ? > > > > Lulu > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > > what can travel from one place to another is (something). .. > (not nothing-ness) ... > all (somethings) are within nothingness. ..in oneness (not duality) > > nothingness cannot move...because it has no body...it is not a > thing...it is not in movement...it is not becoming bigger or > smaller..hotter or colder...faster or slower... > > " what is " is within this nothingness. ..and your body is part > of " what is " just like the birds and the cars and the clouds....if > you listen to " what is " like a piece of sweet mucis...or to someone > that you love deeply with all your heart... > then there is a chance that you will knowingly will be that nothing- > ness... > ... > > > I'm sorry again, but when I read your message I don't understand my own deluded words, I don't see that myself is supposed to write your words, I don't understand what you are trying to say. I don't see my nothing-ness in you. > > Lu > > > before looking for nothingness in others...find your own nothingness...its the nearest and dearest beingness...its not really your nothingness...because its not an object...nothingness is...it is your natural nature...it is already the case...when you say Im sorry again...then this sorry is what is...a cloud in the sky...you are the sky...the sky loves all the clouds in nothingness...the clouds are treasures if you listen to them in openness...but this openness is appearently lost when there is identification with one cloud or another...so...(clouds) or what is...is the treasure if you know how to welcome in open nothingness.... it is not that one cloud is better than another cloud... it is that you love one cloud more and another cloud less... love all clouds and you will be with love wherever the wind blows... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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