Guest guest Posted September 14, 2006 Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 pramana [NonDualPhil] Advaita is ideally nonceptuality, but necessarily conceptual as a teaching in practice, as are all teachings. The trail eventually takes us over the cliff where even the teacher dissolves into Self. Nothing can be done about those ironies inherent in any conceptual truths. " ||||||||||||||||||||| Hi Phil, Can I offer for your consideration the perhaps novel hypothesis that the mental process is itself nondualistic. It is nondualistic because it is only through connaturality that we have any knowledge whatsoever. You might recall on the list the idea that was bruited concerning the subjective impasse created by the mind's 'inevitable' direct acquaintance with its own ideas. The conclusion drawn from this was that the 'external' object is at best merely an inference. Opposed to this is the metaphysical theory that the mental modifications and the object are isomorphic, the one being substantive and the other conceptual. There are various versions of this: give me your broadest brush, I have a big house to paint. In the Platonic what you know in the individual is the universal, in the Aristotlelian the formal or intelligible is that which is grasped by the intellect as actualised in material things. In Advaita you have the " perceptuality of objects such as a jar, consists in their not being different from (Consciousness associated with the) subject. " It is the same Pure Consciousness (Sat Cit Ananda) that is associated with the object as well as with the mental modification of the subject. This is the connaturality that allows the one to pass over to the other as it is. This is why Perception is regarded as a pramana or a valid means of knowledge. The image is offered in Vedanta Paribhasa of the mind; light, subtle and transparent going out to its object and assuming its shape. It can assume its shape because fundamentally they are one and the same or have the same substratum. An intuition that I had once is that the subject's consciousness is not in the subject but somehow in the middle between the two(subject and object) and that it is placed in the subject as a type of superimposition. This needs more work my inner tutor tells me. Here again you have the achievement which Plato sought viz. the saving of the appearances.The advaitin sadhaka is always in the middle and though 'the map is not the territory' he can fall through the map at any time. Michael, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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