Guest guest Posted September 20, 2006 Report Share Posted September 20, 2006 To explain " thoughtlessness " ... I needed to use thoughts... To 'understand' thoughtlessness... I needed to think... To explain 'effortlessness'... I needed to make an effort... To 'understand' effortlessness... I needed to make an effort There was a state that was free of any pain... but, when I tried to understand it... its analysis gave me Pain... I was peaceful, silent, quiet, loving, happy, full... I felt very good... I was loving... and, love is what I wanted to express... Love is what I thought I wrote... but, then when I read it, it read not that different than Hate! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2006 Report Share Posted September 20, 2006 > > To explain " thoughtlessness " ... I needed to use thoughts... > > To 'understand' thoughtlessness... I needed to think... > > > To explain 'effortlessness'... I needed to make an effort... > > To 'understand' effortlessness... I needed to make an effort > > > > > > There was a state that was free of any pain... > > but, when I tried to understand it... its analysis gave me Pain... > > > > > > I was peaceful, silent, quiet, loving, happy, full... > > I felt very good... > > > I was loving... > > and, love is what I wanted to express... > > > Love is what I thought I wrote... > > but, then when I read it, it read not that different than Hate! > I tried expressing love... and, he told me my expression was All Wrong... Love was not this way; love was that another way... I had got it all wrong, and, what I was talking about was certainly not love... and, I wrote again, explaining how my 'definition' was Right... and, over the definition of " love " ... two of us had fierce Fight! My wife saw it and said... what you guys are doing... looks worse than the Hate! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2006 Report Share Posted September 20, 2006 > > > To explain " thoughtlessness " ... I needed to use thoughts... > > To 'understand' thoughtlessness... I needed to think... > > > To explain 'effortlessness'... I needed to make an effort... > > To 'understand' effortlessness... I needed to make an effort > > > > > > There was a state that was free of any pain... > > but, when I tried to understand it... its analysis gave me Pain... > > > > > > I was peaceful, silent, quiet, loving, happy, full... > > I felt very good... > > > I was loving... > > and, love is what I wanted to express... > > > Love is what I thought I wrote... > > but, then when I read it, it read not that different than Hate! > >>I tried expressing love... >>and, he told me my expression was All Wrong... >>Love was not this way; love was that another way... >>I had got it all wrong, and, what I was talking about was certainly not love... >>and, I wrote again, explaining how my 'definition' was Right... >>and, over the definition of " love " ... two of us had fierce Fight! >>My wife saw it and said... >>what you guys are doing... looks far worse than the Hate! We had many thoughts... concerning thoughtlessness... and, we fought and fought over whose thought [of 'thoughtlessness'] was the Best! We used our egos to explain the ego's death! and, when he challenged our 'definition' of 'egoless-ness' we went on all out Attack! We fought over 'enlightenment' ... the death of the self... and, we attacked 'others' and vigorously defended the 'self' that we claimed was Dead! We fought over our definition of Oneness... We put men in different categories... We fought over who was the Highest... Shouting all the while that... all there was... was Consciousness! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2006 Report Share Posted September 20, 2006 Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming " <adithya_comming wrote: > > > To explain " thoughtlessness " ... I needed to use thoughts... > > To 'understand' thoughtlessness... I needed to think... > > > To explain 'effortlessness'... I needed to make an effort... > > To 'understand' effortlessness... I needed to make an effort > > > > > > There was a state that was free of any pain... > > but, when I tried to understand it... its analysis gave me Pain... > > > > > > I was peaceful, silent, quiet, loving, happy, full... > > I felt very good... > > > I was loving... > > and, love is what I wanted to express... > > > Love is what I thought I wrote... > > but, then when I read it, it read not that different than Hate! > You are just experiencing a little I trouble. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2006 Report Share Posted September 20, 2006 [...] > > We had many thoughts... concerning thoughtlessness... > > and, we fought and fought over whose thought [of 'thoughtlessness'] > was the Best! > > > We used our egos to explain the ego's death! > > and, when he challenged our 'definition' of 'egoless-ness' we went on all out Attack! > > > > > We fought over 'enlightenment' ... the death of the self... > > and, we attacked 'others' and vigorously defended the 'self'... that we claimed was Dead! > > > We fought over our definition of Oneness... > > We put men in different categories... > > We fought over who was the Highest... > > Shouting all the while that... all there was... was Consciousness! My wife told me, see what I had already told you... you guys are just some old jerks... just some lazy do-nothing idiots claiming to be sage! You are far worse than the guys... who have never heard the word 'enlightenment'! Your fights over here... can easily put our children to Shame! And, all that you really seem to have gained... ....is shamelessness! Wise men have said... Actions speak louder than the words... and, by watching you guys in action... I am advised to ask my son to Stay Away! Looking at you... looking at 'what you do'... it seems correct that there is no such thing... as Enlightenment! Judging by your behavior I could easily side with my hardcore conservative Christian Friend! With the idea of heaven and hell... with categories of separation and entitlement With him, I clearly understand what I have got... with you, I just have deluded jerks... who fight over and over... over the years... Claiming all the while to be only Love and Oneness! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2007 Report Share Posted May 21, 2007 [...] > For a truly useful communication to > happen, the communication needs to have > two necessary ingredients: > > - Noble Intentions. > > and, > > - Right Emotions. > > In absence of noble intentions, > communication is really just a > substitute for war. > > > While a person griped by reactivity, > revenge, jealousy, pride, anger, > hatred, shame or guilt is like someone > who is. . . temporarily Insane or dunk. > > > And, when ill intentions combine with > ill emotions. . . a real disastrous > combination occurs. Such a person is > destined to harm those around him/her and > in the end, himself/herself. > > > Just as when > dealing with a temporarily insane or > drunk person; you have to understand > that a real communication is not > possible under this condition. > > You can attempt to understand someone > temporarily insane yet, it is wise to > not ignore the danger such a person > presents to those around him/her and > himself/herself. > > > You can act with > compassion, kindness and understanding > yet, it is wise to act to minimize > damage either by getting person > 'treated', 'isolated', put in place > safe for him/her and others, move > others from his/her contact and if all > that is not possible. . . move yourself > away from his/her contact. > How do you communicate? - What are your intention? Why do you communicate? - What are your prevailing emotions when you communicate - compassion, kindness, love and peace or, reactivity, revenge, jealousy, vanity, pride, anger and hate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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