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I have " never " ever succeeded by

'working' on 'thoughts'!

 

Once I think I have resolved one,

many more soon appear!

 

It has felt like working on

leaves of a tree while the root and

stem of the tree is left intact!

 

New leaves always appear...

 

 

Only respite that I have " ever " found

is in the space of 'no thought'.

 

It has been like a " room " inside me

where I can rest away from all the noise,

turmoil and [alomst] constantly moving

[somewhat] nonsense and unnecessary

thoughts.

 

I have found that as far as 'emotions'

and 'feelings' are concerned...

 

there are NO happy thoughts.

 

Even the " thoughts " that are traditioanlly

said to be 'pleasant' start feeling pretty

ardous and painful soon.

 

 

Working on 'emotions' has been even more

difficult... because, when I get Fully Present

.... I am no longer stressed any more.

 

On the other hand, when I try to *work*

on them - just mere thinking of *them* recaretes

those 'feeling' in my body and mind again.

 

 

Wheras, if I start from the point of 'no thought',

I feel I can deal with anything...

 

and, in that Space, even 'working on thoughts'

makes Great Sense!

 

 

 

>

> Many people calimed that

> 'psychology' could never remove

> basic human suffering!

>

> They claimed nobody was ever

> 'fully cured' by it. When 5

> 'issues' were resolved; there were

> soon 10 more - because,

> 'issue making' 'factory' was

> still intact after all 'psychological'

> analysis and treatments!

>

> What is your experience?

>

> Has psychology gotten rid of all your sufferings?

>

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Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming "

<adithya_comming wrote:

>

> I have " never " ever succeeded by

> 'working' on 'thoughts'!

>

> Once I think I have resolved one,

> many more soon appear!

>

> It has felt like working on

> leaves of a tree while the root and

> stem of the tree is left intact!

>

> New leaves always appear...

>

>

> Only respite that I have " ever " found

> is in the space of 'no thought'.

>

> It has been like a " room " inside me

> where I can rest away from all the noise,

> turmoil and [alomst] constantly moving

> [somewhat] nonsense and unnecessary

> thoughts.

>

> I have found that as far as 'emotions'

> and 'feelings' are concerned...

>

> there are NO happy thoughts.

>

> Even the " thoughts " that are traditioanlly

> said to be 'pleasant' start feeling pretty

> ardous and painful soon.

>

>

> Working on 'emotions' has been even more

> difficult... because, when I get Fully Present

> ... I am no longer stressed any more.

>

> On the other hand, when I try to *work*

> on them - just mere thinking of *them* recaretes

> those 'feeling' in my body and mind again.

>

>

> Wheras, if I start from the point of 'no thought',

> I feel I can deal with anything...

>

> and, in that Space, even 'working on thoughts'

> makes Great Sense!

>

>

 

 

 

 

It makes sense to the same one that is confused?

 

 

toombaru

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Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain

wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming "

> <adithya_comming@> wrote:

> >

> > I have " never " ever succeeded by

> > 'working' on 'thoughts'!

> >

> > Once I think I have resolved one,

> > many more soon appear!

> >

> > It has felt like working on

> > leaves of a tree while the root and

> > stem of the tree is left intact!

> >

> > New leaves always appear...

> >

> >

> > Only respite that I have " ever " found

> > is in the space of 'no thought'.

> >

> > It has been like a " room " inside me

> > where I can rest away from all the noise,

> > turmoil and [alomst] constantly moving

> > [somewhat] nonsense and unnecessary

> > thoughts.

> >

> > I have found that as far as 'emotions'

> > and 'feelings' are concerned...

> >

> > there are NO happy thoughts.

> >

> > Even the " thoughts " that are traditioanlly

> > said to be 'pleasant' start feeling pretty

> > ardous and painful soon.

> >

> >

> > Working on 'emotions' has been even more

> > difficult... because, when I get Fully Present

> > ... I am no longer stressed any more.

> >

> > On the other hand, when I try to *work*

> > on them - just mere thinking of *them* recaretes

> > those 'feeling' in my body and mind again.

> >

> >

> > Wheras, if I start from the point of 'no thought',

> > I feel I can deal with anything...

> >

> > and, in that Space, even 'working on thoughts'

> > makes Great Sense!

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

> It makes sense to the same one that is confused?

>

>

> toombaru

 

 

There is Only One Thing...

 

Without Light

it feels lost and is not sure which way to go.

 

With Light

the same thing sees Clearly and knows where it wants to go!

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Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming "

<adithya_comming wrote:

>

> I have " never " ever succeeded by

> 'working' on 'thoughts'!

 

 

 

That's because the 'I' thing is composed of nothing other then thoughts.

 

 

 

 

>

> Once I think I have resolved one,

> many more soon appear!

>

> It has felt like working on

> leaves of a tree while the root and

> stem of the tree is left intact!

>

> New leaves always appear...

>

>

> Only respite that I have " ever " found

> is in the space of 'no thought'.

 

 

 

 

Thinking.....can only imagine a place of 'no thought'.

 

 

 

 

>

> It has been like a " room " inside me

> where I can rest away from all the noise,

> turmoil and [alomst] constantly moving

> [somewhat] nonsense and unnecessary

> thoughts.

 

..........round and round we go........

 

 

 

 

>

> I have found that as far as 'emotions'

> and 'feelings' are concerned...

>

> there are NO happy thoughts.

>

> Even the " thoughts " that are traditioanlly

> said to be 'pleasant' start feeling pretty

> ardous and painful soon.

 

 

 

 

 

If you think that this is bad.......just keep trying to figure it all

out with the very thing that is causing the 'problem'.

 

 

 

 

 

>

>

> Working on 'emotions' has been even more

> difficult...

 

 

That is because 'emotions' exist only as an idea.

 

'Emotion' is a description....an adjective mistaken for a noun.

 

 

 

 

 

 

because, when I get Fully Present

> ... I am no longer stressed any more.

 

The 'I' can never be fully present........It is the antithesis of

presence.

 

 

 

 

>

> On the other hand, when I try to *work*

> on them - just mere thinking of *them* recaretes

> those 'feeling' in my body and mind again.

 

 

 

It's a clever little monkey.

 

 

 

 

 

>

>

> Wheras, if I start from the point of 'no thought',

> I feel I can deal with anything...

 

 

Well........everything except 'thought'.

 

 

 

 

>

> and, in that Space, even 'working on thoughts'

> makes Great Sense!

>

>

 

 

No-thing can make sense to a clot of self-referential memories.

 

 

 

toombaru

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Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming "

<adithya_comming wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming "

> > <adithya_comming@> wrote:

> > >

> > > I have " never " ever succeeded by

> > > 'working' on 'thoughts'!

> > >

> > > Once I think I have resolved one,

> > > many more soon appear!

> > >

> > > It has felt like working on

> > > leaves of a tree while the root and

> > > stem of the tree is left intact!

> > >

> > > New leaves always appear...

> > >

> > >

> > > Only respite that I have " ever " found

> > > is in the space of 'no thought'.

> > >

> > > It has been like a " room " inside me

> > > where I can rest away from all the noise,

> > > turmoil and [alomst] constantly moving

> > > [somewhat] nonsense and unnecessary

> > > thoughts.

> > >

> > > I have found that as far as 'emotions'

> > > and 'feelings' are concerned...

> > >

> > > there are NO happy thoughts.

> > >

> > > Even the " thoughts " that are traditioanlly

> > > said to be 'pleasant' start feeling pretty

> > > ardous and painful soon.

> > >

> > >

> > > Working on 'emotions' has been even more

> > > difficult... because, when I get Fully Present

> > > ... I am no longer stressed any more.

> > >

> > > On the other hand, when I try to *work*

> > > on them - just mere thinking of *them* recaretes

> > > those 'feeling' in my body and mind again.

> > >

> > >

> > > Wheras, if I start from the point of 'no thought',

> > > I feel I can deal with anything...

> > >

> > > and, in that Space, even 'working on thoughts'

> > > makes Great Sense!

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > It makes sense to the same one that is confused?

> >

> >

> > toombaru

>

>

> There is Only One Thing...

>

> Without Light

> it feels lost and is not sure which way to go.

>

> With Light

> the same thing sees Clearly and knows where it wants to go!

>

 

 

 

If everything is one thing.........nothing is.

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Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain

wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming "

> <adithya_comming@> wrote:

> >

> > I have " never " ever succeeded by

> > 'working' on 'thoughts'!

>

>

>

> That's because the 'I' thing is composed of nothing other then

thoughts.

>

>

>

>

> >

> > Once I think I have resolved one,

> > many more soon appear!

> >

> > It has felt like working on

> > leaves of a tree while the root and

> > stem of the tree is left intact!

> >

> > New leaves always appear...

> >

> >

> > Only respite that I have " ever " found

> > is in the space of 'no thought'.

>

>

>

>

> Thinking.....can only imagine a place of 'no thought'.

>

>

>

>

> >

> > It has been like a " room " inside me

> > where I can rest away from all the noise,

> > turmoil and [alomst] constantly moving

> > [somewhat] nonsense and unnecessary

> > thoughts.

>

> .........round and round we go........

>

>

>

>

> >

> > I have found that as far as 'emotions'

> > and 'feelings' are concerned...

> >

> > there are NO happy thoughts.

> >

> > Even the " thoughts " that are traditioanlly

> > said to be 'pleasant' start feeling pretty

> > ardous and painful soon.

>

>

>

>

>

> If you think that this is bad.......just keep trying to figure it

all

> out with the very thing that is causing the 'problem'.

>

>

>

>

>

> >

> >

> > Working on 'emotions' has been even more

> > difficult...

>

>

> That is because 'emotions' exist only as an idea.

>

> 'Emotion' is a description....an adjective mistaken for a noun.

because, when I get Fully Present

> > ... I am no longer stressed any more.

>

> The 'I' can never be fully present........It is the antithesis of

> presence.

>

>

>

>

> >

> > On the other hand, when I try to *work*

> > on them - just mere thinking of *them* recaretes

> > those 'feeling' in my body and mind again.

>

>

>

> It's a clever little monkey.

>

>

>

>

>

> >

> >

> > Wheras, if I start from the point of 'no thought',

> > I feel I can deal with anything...

>

>

> Well........everything except 'thought'.

>

>

>

>

> >

> > and, in that Space, even 'working on thoughts'

> > makes Great Sense!

> >

> >

>

>

> No-thing can make sense to a clot of self-referential memories.

>

>

>

> toombaru

>

and toombaru too is but a clot of referential memories. now of what

the clot and why we know not....neither does the clot named toombaru.

know. pretend as he may, he does not...like all selves he is just

another turkey looking forward to Thanksgiving, without a clue

regarding the Big Surprise for Thanksgiving Day! Hallelujah! and pass

the cranberry sauce!

....b

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there is no you to work anything out. it makes no difference if u

suck-seed or not. it's all good. dc

 

Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming "

<adithya_comming wrote:

>

> I have " never " ever succeeded by

> 'working' on 'thoughts'!

>

> Once I think I have resolved one,

> many more soon appear!

>

> It has felt like working on

> leaves of a tree while the root and

> stem of the tree is left intact!

>

> New leaves always appear...

>

>

> Only respite that I have " ever " found

> is in the space of 'no thought'.

>

> It has been like a " room " inside me

> where I can rest away from all the noise,

> turmoil and [alomst] constantly moving

> [somewhat] nonsense and unnecessary

> thoughts.

>

> I have found that as far as 'emotions'

> and 'feelings' are concerned...

>

> there are NO happy thoughts.

>

> Even the " thoughts " that are traditioanlly

> said to be 'pleasant' start feeling pretty

> ardous and painful soon.

>

>

> Working on 'emotions' has been even more

> difficult... because, when I get Fully Present

> ... I am no longer stressed any more.

>

> On the other hand, when I try to *work*

> on them - just mere thinking of *them* recaretes

> those 'feeling' in my body and mind again.

>

>

> Wheras, if I start from the point of 'no thought',

> I feel I can deal with anything...

>

> and, in that Space, even 'working on thoughts'

> makes Great Sense!

>

>

>

> >

> > Many people calimed that

> > 'psychology' could never remove

> > basic human suffering!

> >

> > They claimed nobody was ever

> > 'fully cured' by it. When 5

> > 'issues' were resolved; there were

> > soon 10 more - because,

> > 'issue making' 'factory' was

> > still intact after all 'psychological'

> > analysis and treatments!

> >

> > What is your experience?

> >

> > Has psychology gotten rid of all your sufferings?

> >

>

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