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> > >

> > > I have seen a human body without a personal mind.

> >

> >

> >

> > I guess that depends on your definition of 'personal'.

> >

> > What is your definition of 'personal'?

> >

>

> The illusory obscuration of the natural mind by the accumulation of

> mnemonic debris called " Me " .

 

 

Well your explanation of

'personal' explains...

 

what " you " have 'seen'

and, 'why'!

 

 

>

> toombaru

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Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming "

<adithya_comming wrote:

>

> [...]

>

> > > >

> > > > I have seen a human body without a personal mind.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > I guess that depends on your definition of 'personal'.

> > >

> > > What is your definition of 'personal'?

> > >

> >

> > The illusory obscuration of the natural mind by the accumulation of

> > mnemonic debris called " Me " .

>

>

> Well your explanation of

> 'personal' explains...

>

> what " you " have 'seen'

> and, 'why'!

>

>

> >

> > toombaru

> >

>

 

 

 

 

How else could it be?

 

 

 

toombaru

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Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain

wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming "

> <adithya_comming@> wrote:

> >

> > [...]

> >

> > > > >

> > > > > I have seen a human body without a personal mind.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > I guess that depends on your definition of 'personal'.

> > > >

> > > > What is your definition of 'personal'?

> > > >

> > >

> > > The illusory obscuration of the natural mind by the

accumulation of

> > > mnemonic debris called " Me " .

> >

> >

> > Well your explanation of

> > 'personal' explains...

> >

> > what " you " have 'seen'

> > and, 'why'!

> >

> >

> > >

> > > toombaru

> > >

>

> How else could it be?

>

> toombaru

>

 

 

This how dictionary defines it:

 

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/personal

 

What is " illusory " and what is not is

a 'spiritual' 'trip' which itself is... " illusory " !

 

And, perhaps the most " illusory " of them All!

 

 

Discussion [and 'thinking'] of 'spirituality'

is what keeps real 'spirituality' away from

the grasp of most 'seekers'!

 

Laying 'spiritual' 'trips' on parctical

day to day 'material' thing is what creates lot of ... confusion!

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Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain

wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@>

wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " Johan " <yohansky@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 "

<kailashana@>

> > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 "

<lastrain@>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Era Molnar "

<n0ndual@>

> > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > toombaru and Bob,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > If you two like bickering so much, why don't you do

it in

> > > > > private

> > > > > > > > emails to one another and give the rest of us a break?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Bob,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I've never thought that we are not friends. I feel as

close

> > > to

> > > > > you as

> > > > > > > > to anyone else.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Richard

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > " A question: If we simply dropped all of our concepts

and

> > > > > > " thoughts " about everything including self, ego, others,

karma,

> > > > > > Dzogchen, Buddhism, teachings, teachers, empowerments,

paths of

> > > > > > practice, techniques etc., and simply took refuge in our

> > > > > > non-conceptual Presence of Awareness, what issues would

remain

> > > > > needing

> > > > > > to be clarified? "

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Jax

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > There is no 'we' outside of the concepts.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The sense of 'we' emerges from within the conceptual

overlay.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Issues are conceptual.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > What 'issues' exist in nature?

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > toombaru

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > So is there any issue that is 'natural'?

> > > > >

> > > > > Perhaps the search for love. And mistake not, after all

that is

> > > said

> > > > > and done in this group, as well as any other so-called

spiritual

> > > > > groups, including our homes, cities and countries,

religious and

> > > > > political affiliations and any/all conflicts/wars are born

from

> > > > > this " unconscious " search.

> > > > >

> > > > > Man's search for meaning: how to love and be loved in the

> > > texture

> > > > > of our daily life, wherever we are, however we appear to

BE. To

> > > be

> > > > > accepted. To be acknowledged. To be understood and

respected

> > > just

> > > > > for " BEING " .

> > > > >

> > > > > All else is just 'stuff' we use to hide from our inherent

> > > emptiness,

> > > > > to quiet our annihilating fear of being unloved which is

akin to

> > > > > being 'unneeded' in the grand scheme of things.

> > > > >

> > > > > Imhi.

> > > > >

> > > > > Love and Peace,

> > > > > Anna

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > It is not love that is primary to the entity........it is

survival.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > toombaru

> > > >

> > >

> > > Fear?

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > " The hypothesis that I've come up with is that the block which

cuts

> > off so-called normal human consciousness from its roots in that

other,

> > impersonal consciousness, is some kind of inflation or

hyperactivity

> > of the psychological survival-system. "

> >

> > John Wren-Lewis

> >

> >

> > Fear and the illusion of separation go hand in hand.

> >

> > They are inseparable.

> >

> > There is no place for the mind of man to lay its weary head.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > toombaru

> >

>

>

>

> That which the entity calls 'love' is merely the counterbalance for

> the substrate of fear under which it labors.

>

> Upon Apperception 'love' and 'fear' flow into...and neutralize

> each-other......

>

>

> The only thing left............is the Smile.

>

>

>

>

> toombaru

>

 

Yes, merge first, then die a little for the Cosmic Joke.

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Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain

wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@>

wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@>

> > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 "

<lastrain@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " Era Molnar "

<n0ndual@>

> > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > toombaru and Bob,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > If you two like bickering so much, why don't you do it

in

> > > > private

> > > > > > > emails to one another and give the rest of us a break?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Bob,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I've never thought that we are not friends. I feel as

> > close to

> > > > you as

> > > > > > > to anyone else.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Richard

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > " A question: If we simply dropped all of our concepts

and

> > > > > " thoughts " about everything including self, ego, others,

karma,

> > > > > Dzogchen, Buddhism, teachings, teachers, empowerments,

paths of

> > > > > practice, techniques etc., and simply took refuge in our

> > > > > non-conceptual Presence of Awareness, what issues would

remain

> > > > needing

> > > > > to be clarified? "

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Jax

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > There is no 'we' outside of the concepts.

> > > > >

> > > > > The sense of 'we' emerges from within the conceptual

overlay.

> > > > >

> > > > > Issues are conceptual.

> > > > >

> > > > > What 'issues' exist in nature?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > toombaru

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > So is there any issue that is 'natural'?

> > > >

> > > > Perhaps the search for love. And mistake not, after all

that is

> > said

> > > > and done in this group, as well as any other so-called

spiritual

> > > > groups, including our homes, cities and countries, religious

and

> > > > political affiliations and any/all conflicts/wars are born

from

> > > > this " unconscious " search.

> > > >

> > > > Man's search for meaning: how to love and be loved in the

> > texture

> > > > of our daily life, wherever we are, however we appear to

BE.

> > To be

> > > > accepted. To be acknowledged. To be understood and

respected

> > just

> > > > for " BEING " .

> > > >

> > > > All else is just 'stuff' we use to hide from our inherent

> > emptiness,

> > > > to quiet our annihilating fear of being unloved which is

akin to

> > > > being 'unneeded' in the grand scheme of things.

> > > >

> > > > Imhi.

> > > >

> > > > Love and Peace,

> > > > Anna

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > It is not love that is primary to the entity........it is

survival.

> > >

> > >

> > > toombaru

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> > ...and then in the 7th phase of the sapphire moon, 'survival' is

> > just not what it used to be. The desire for Love, for the

> > experience of UNITY-of some unknown ecstasy that somehow exists,

is

> > somehow an echo of memory being 'remembered'. And somehow one

> > becomes unwilling to just 'survive' in the medicrity of

what " life "

> > without the experience of REAL Love is; the truth of what we

have

> > been living in our 'survival' mode.

> >

> > ...at that moment... that one perfectly clear, lucid moment, one

is

> > willing to let go of everything, reach into the unknown, and

truly

> > experience what the universe has been waiting for:

> >

> > The knowing of the Beloved.

> Anna,

>

> You are always and only the Beloved.

>

> It is the striving out of which the entity emerges........and

disappears.

>

>

> The longing is merely a sign post in the desert.

>

>

> It will evaporate the moment the circle is complete.

>

>

> ...........and the river flows back into itself........

>

>

>

> .......and that moment is now.

>

 

 

 

" I " will never 'see' that until and unless " I " have a mirror--

" YOU " and this is how the mirror of eternity sees.

 

My Love.

 

Anna

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