Guest guest Posted October 15, 2006 Report Share Posted October 15, 2006 Our human condition is conflict. If you like you even could state that our human nature is conflict. To say that our true nature is love, light or peace is simply running away from what we are into a wonderful ideal promising peace of mind. Niz suggested or demanded two main things, to abide in the " I am " and the need to have self-knowledge. And the " I am " is not at all Disneyland but rather the contrary. Same with self-knowledge which needs courage and bravery to look at oneself how one really is. To escape into an ideal like for example peace or love is absolutely counterproductive in regard to Niz's teaching. Strangely enough on this list here are some people spreading their pompous ideals which just are escapes. Kinda spiritual drug dealers ... Werner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2006 Report Share Posted October 15, 2006 Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > Our human condition is conflict. If you like you even could state that > our human nature is conflict. > > To say that our true nature is love, light or peace is simply running > away from what we are into a wonderful ideal promising peace of mind. > > Niz suggested or demanded two main things, to abide in the " I am " and > the need to have self-knowledge. And the " I am " is not at all > Disneyland but rather the contrary. Same with self-knowledge which > needs courage and bravery to look at oneself how one really is. > > To escape into an ideal like for example peace or love is absolutely > counterproductive in regard to Niz's teaching. > > Strangely enough on this list here are some people spreading their > pompous ideals which just are escapes. Kinda spiritual drug dealers ... > > Werner > OBSCURATION PASSES It all comes together in this one.... perfect.... moment..... Life begs nothing does nothing loses nothing extends itself to all endless space relatively free instant grace to Be Who You always all ways already are .....The eternal sunshine of the spotless mind. (or perhpas just a smile;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2006 Report Share Posted October 15, 2006 Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> > wrote: > > > > Our human condition is conflict. If you like you even could state > that > > our human nature is conflict. > > > > To say that our true nature is love, light or peace is simply > running > > away from what we are into a wonderful ideal promising peace of > mind. > > > > Niz suggested or demanded two main things, to abide in the " I am " > and > > the need to have self-knowledge. And the " I am " is not at all > > Disneyland but rather the contrary. Same with self-knowledge which > > needs courage and bravery to look at oneself how one really is. > > > > To escape into an ideal like for example peace or love is > absolutely > > counterproductive in regard to Niz's teaching. > > > > Strangely enough on this list here are some people spreading their > > pompous ideals which just are escapes. Kinda spiritual drug > dealers ... > > > > Werner > > > > > > OBSCURATION PASSES > > It all comes together > in this one.... perfect.... moment..... > > Life begs nothing > does nothing > loses nothing > > extends itself to all > endless space > relatively free > instant grace > > to Be > Who > You always > all ways > already are > > ....The eternal sunshine of the spotless mind. > > > (or perhpas just a smile;-) > Chuckle ... Thanks for the laugh Ana. Werner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2006 Report Share Posted October 15, 2006 Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > Our human condition is conflict. If you like you even could state that > our human nature is conflict. > > To say that our true nature is love, light or peace is simply running > away from what we are into a wonderful ideal promising peace of mind. > > Niz suggested or demanded two main things, to abide in the " I am " and > the need to have self-knowledge. And the " I am " is not at all > Disneyland but rather the contrary. Same with self-knowledge which > needs courage and bravery to look at oneself how one really is. > > To escape into an ideal like for example peace or love is absolutely > counterproductive in regard to Niz's teaching. > > Strangely enough on this list here are some people spreading their > pompous ideals which just are escapes. Kinda spiritual drug dealers ... > > Werner > All phyusical organisms exist in conflict. The 'I-am' has no nature. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2006 Report Share Posted October 15, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > Our human condition is conflict. If you like you even could state that > > our human nature is conflict. > > > > To say that our true nature is love, light or peace is simply running > > away from what we are into a wonderful ideal promising peace of mind. > > > > Niz suggested or demanded two main things, to abide in the " I am " and > > the need to have self-knowledge. And the " I am " is not at all > > Disneyland but rather the contrary. Same with self-knowledge which > > needs courage and bravery to look at oneself how one really is. > > > > To escape into an ideal like for example peace or love is absolutely > > counterproductive in regard to Niz's teaching. > > > > Strangely enough on this list here are some people spreading their > > pompous ideals which just are escapes. Kinda spiritual drug dealers ... > > > > Werner > All phyusical organisms exist in conflict. > > > The 'I-am' has no nature. > > > > > > toombaru > the more there is of the " you " (toombaru-ness) the less there is of the " me " (Anna-nees). (we can always switch in midstream) and just how DID we ever meet in or hu-man nature? Wink. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2006 Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > Our human condition is conflict. If you like you even could state that > our human nature is conflict. > > To say that our true nature is love, light or peace is simply running > away from what we are into a wonderful ideal promising peace of mind. > > Niz suggested or demanded two main things, to abide in the " I am " and > the need to have self-knowledge. And the " I am " is not at all > Disneyland but rather the contrary. Same with self-knowledge which > needs courage and bravery to look at oneself how one really is. > > To escape into an ideal like for example peace or love is absolutely > counterproductive in regard to Niz's teaching. > > Strangely enough on this list here are some people spreading their > pompous ideals which just are escapes. Kinda spiritual drug dealers ... > > Werner ....dealing with " Conflicts " .....? lol > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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