Guest guest Posted October 19, 2006 Report Share Posted October 19, 2006 is there anything to wait for ? is there anything to do ? is there anything not to do? I am and god is . nothing else is is everybody else here completley cool safe diamond geezers if ya know what i mean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2006 Report Share Posted October 24, 2006 Nisargadatta , " ben_bld " <ben_bld wrote: > > > is there anything to wait for ? > > is there anything to do ? > > is there anything not to do? > > I am and god is . nothing else is > > > is everybody else here completley cool safe diamond geezers if ya know > what i mean " patience - you alone are " thank you for this nice and strong words... .....there is nothing but real Self.... Mickeymouse and Goofy included....or whatever other appearing fantasies Marc > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2006 Report Share Posted October 24, 2006 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " ben_bld " <ben_bld@> wrote: > > > > > > is there anything to wait for ? > > > > is there anything to do ? > > > > is there anything not to do? > > > > I am and god is . nothing else is > > > > > > is everybody else here completley cool safe diamond geezers if ya know > > what i mean > > > > > " patience - you alone are " > thank you for this nice and strong words... > > > ....there is nothing but real Self.... > > Mickeymouse and Goofy included....or whatever other appearing fantasies > > > Marc > > And the most funniest fantasy is Marc himself, included all his oceans of love, inner peace, light, and similar spiritual trashy:) Werner > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2006 Report Share Posted October 24, 2006 Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " ben_bld " <ben_bld@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > is there anything to wait for ? > > > > > > is there anything to do ? > > > > > > is there anything not to do? > > > > > > I am and god is . nothing else is > > > > > > > > > is everybody else here completley cool safe diamond geezers if ya > know > > > what i mean > > > > > > > > > > " patience - you alone are " > > thank you for this nice and strong words... > > > > > > ....there is nothing but real Self.... > > > > Mickeymouse and Goofy included....or whatever other appearing > fantasies > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > And the most funniest fantasy is Marc himself, included all his > oceans of love, inner peace, light, and similar spiritual trashy:) > > Werner LOL better a funny fantasie.....than a mountain of ego-trash Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2006 Report Share Posted October 24, 2006 better a funny fantasie.....than a mountain of ego-trash Marc =============== Marc, a question please. Is this remark from your ego? I know very little, but I want to test out my perception. Judy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2006 Report Share Posted October 24, 2006 Nisargadatta , judy <judyw1941 wrote: > > better a funny fantasie.....than a mountain of ego-trash > > > > Marc > =============== > Marc, a question please. Is this remark from your ego? I know very > little, but I want to test out my perception. > > Judy do you want to test me?... you must have a great ego....in feeling to do so....? Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2006 Report Share Posted October 24, 2006 Marc > ============ === > Marc, a question please. Is this remark from your ego? I know very > little, but I want to test out my perception. > > Judy do you want to test me?... you must have a great ego....in feeling to do so....? Marc ------- I probably do have a great ego. Just now becoming aware of it. Yes, I did want to know if that remark came from your ego as such a remark would have come from mine. Judy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2006 Report Share Posted October 24, 2006 Nisargadatta , judy <judyw1941 wrote: > > Marc > > ============ > > === > > Marc, a question please. Is this remark from your ego? I know very > > little, but I want to test out my perception. > > > > Judy > > do you want to test me?... > > you must have a great ego....in feeling to do so....? > > Marc > ------- > I probably do have a great ego. Just now becoming aware of it. Yes, I > did want to know if that remark came from your ego as such a remark > would have come from mine. > > Judy > The'ego' can never become aware of itself.........for one very good reason. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2006 Report Share Posted October 24, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , judy <judyw1941@> wrote: > > > > Marc > > > ============ > > > > === > > > Marc, a question please. Is this remark from your ego? I know very > > > little, but I want to test out my perception. > > > > > > Judy > > > > do you want to test me?... > > > > you must have a great ego....in feeling to do so....? > > > > Marc > > ------- > > I probably do have a great ego. Just now becoming aware of it. Yes, I > > did want to know if that remark came from your ego as such a remark > > would have come from mine. > > > > Judy > > > > > > The'ego' can never become aware of itself.........for one very good > reason. > > > > toombaru how do you know....? you mean that the one who is sleeping can't be aware of being awake during sleep?.... Marc > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2006 Report Share Posted October 24, 2006 The'ego' can never become aware of itself...... ....for one very good reason. toombaru --------------------------- You may be right and I may be using incorrect terminology. I do see some of the conditioned beliefs and reactions which is what I label the ego. I do want to learn more so perhaps you would be willing to say more. Judy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2006 Report Share Posted October 24, 2006 Nisargadatta , judy <judyw1941 wrote: > > The'ego' can never become aware of itself...... > > ...for one very good > reason. > > toombaru > --------------------------- > You may be right and I may be using incorrect terminology. I do see > some of the conditioned beliefs and reactions which is what I label the ego. > > I do want to learn more so perhaps you would be willing to say more. > > Judy > ....the spirit is willing but the flesh is weak? In either case, only love cuts through the flesh to touch the spirit., beyond any reason.......to be....... Being....... anna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2006 Report Share Posted October 24, 2006 Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana wrote: > > Nisargadatta , judy <judyw1941@> wrote: > > > > The'ego' can never become aware of itself...... > > > > ...for one very good > > reason. > > > > toombaru > > --------------------------- > > You may be right and I may be using incorrect terminology. I do > see > > some of the conditioned beliefs and reactions which is what I label > the ego. > > > > I do want to learn more so perhaps you would be willing to say more. > > > > Judy > > > > > > ...the spirit is willing but the flesh is weak? > > In either case, only love cuts through the flesh to touch the spirit., > beyond any reason.......to be....... Being....... > > anna > And now Judy, ask Ana: 1) How can you manage to " really " love ? 2) How can you be sure what Ana calls or feels as love is really love and not just " hot imaginations " of a lonely woman ? 3) What does Ana mean with " flesh " and how can " love " cut through it ? 4) What does Ana mean with " spirit " ? 5) And how does " love " touch that " spirit " ? Werner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2006 Report Share Posted October 24, 2006 Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , judy <judyw1941@> wrote: > > > > > > The'ego' can never become aware of itself...... > > > > > > ...for one very good > > > reason. > > > > > > toombaru > > > --------------------------- > > > You may be right and I may be using incorrect terminology. I do > > see > > > some of the conditioned beliefs and reactions which is what I > label > > the ego. > > > > > > I do want to learn more so perhaps you would be willing to say > more. > > > > > > Judy > > > > > > > > > > > ...the spirit is willing but the flesh is weak? > > > > In either case, only love cuts through the flesh to touch the > spirit., > > beyond any reason.......to be....... Being....... > > > > anna > > > > And now Judy, ask Ana: > > 1) How can you manage to " really " love ? > 2) How can you be sure what Ana calls or feels as love is really love > and not just " hot imaginations " of a lonely woman ? > 3) What does Ana mean with " flesh " and how can " love " cut through it ? > 4) What does Ana mean with " spirit " ? > 5) And how does " love " touch that " spirit " ? > > > > Werner > Werner, dahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhling, Shall we dance again? ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2006 Report Share Posted October 24, 2006 you are perfect and complete as you are > And now Judy, ask Ana: > > 1) How can you manage to " really " love ? > 2) How can you be sure what Ana calls or feels as love is really love > and not just " hot imaginations " of a lonely woman ? > 3) What does Ana mean with " flesh " and how can " love " cut through it ? > 4) What does Ana mean with " spirit " ? > 5) And how does " love " touch that " spirit " ? > > > > Werner > Dropping the need to be happy, happiness comes of itself. Dropping the need to be gratified by events, pleasure comes of itself. Dropping the need to feel safe, security comes of itself. Dropping the need for wealth, abundance comes of itself. Dropping the need to succeed, success comes of itself. Dropping the need for approval, recognition comes of itself. Dropping the need to be right, rectitude comes of itself. Dropping the need to understand, wisdom comes of itself. Dropping the need for love, love comes of itself. Dropping the need to find the best way, the Great Way presents itself. Breathing slowly, relaxing and easing yourself into the moment, the mystery reveals itself and all that was lost, which was rightfully yours, is restored. Your natural state is perfection. and this is nice____ " I have, at last, reached MY goal, And solved the secret of MY soul. I am THAT, to whom I prayed, THAT, to whom I looked for aid. I am THAT, whom I did seek. I am MY own mountain peak. I, upon creation look, As a page from MY own book. For I am the ONE, the many make, Of substance, which from ME I take. For ALL is ME, there are not two, Creation is MYSELF, all through. What I grant, unto MYSELF, I just take, from MYSELF. And give it to ME, the only ONE, For I am the Father, and the Son. What I want, I do but see, MY wishes flowing forth from ME. For I am the knower, and the known, Subject, ruler, and the throne. The three in ONE, is what I am, And hell itself is but a dam, That I did put in MY own stream, When in a nightmare, I did dream. That I did dream; That I was not the only ONE, And thus by ME, was doubt begun, Which ran its course, 'til I awoke, And found that I, with ME, did joke. So now, that I do stand awake, MY throne, I do surely take, And rule MY kingdom, which is ME, The master, through eternity. " kkmmx nice one harmoney togethernes connected as one together we are invincible basically you are below no one and above no one just everybody is one dude called god you heard of him i reckon chill relax be happy nothing to do just sort ya life out and be happy know hat i mean it always gets better and good news guys gods on our side our best mate is god and what a diamond gezzer she is v gorgeous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2006 Report Share Posted October 24, 2006 The'ego' can never become aware of itself...... > > ...for one very good > reason. > > toombaru > ------------ --------------- > You may be right and I may be using incorrect terminology. I do see > some of the conditioned beliefs and reactions which is what I label the ego. > > I do want to learn more so perhaps you would be willing to say more. > > Judy > ....the spirit is willing but the flesh is weak? In either case, only love cuts through the flesh to touch the spirit., beyond any reason.......to be....... Being....... anna --------- My friend, I appreciate your effort in trying to help me with my confusion, but I am at such a level of needing more concrete explanations that most things are just over my head. I probably erred in trying to test out my perception here. I see I should be silent until some understanding comes to me. Judy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2006 Report Share Posted October 24, 2006 " I have, at last, reached MY goal, And solved the secret of MY soul. I am THAT, to whom I prayed, THAT, to whom I looked for aid. I am THAT, whom I did seek. I am MY own mountain peak. I, upon creation look, As a page from MY own book. For I am the ONE, the many make, Of substance, which from ME I take. For ALL is ME, there are not two, Creation is MYSELF, all through. What I grant, unto MYSELF, I just take, from MYSELF. And give it to ME, the only ONE, For I am the Father, and the Son. What I want, I do but see, MY wishes flowing forth from ME. For I am the knower, and the known, Subject, ruler, and the throne. The three in ONE, is what I am, And hell itself is but a dam, That I did put in MY own stream, When in a nightmare, I did dream. That I did dream; That I was not the only ONE, And thus by ME, was doubt begun, Which ran its course, 'til I awoke, And found that I, with ME, did joke. So now, that I do stand awake, MY throne, I do surely take, And rule MY kingdom, which is ME, The master, through eternity. " kkmmx nice one harmoney togethernes connected as one together we are invincible basically you are below no one and above no one just everybody is one dude called god you heard of him i reckon chill relax be happy nothing to do just sort ya life out and be happy know hat i mean it always gets better and good news guys gods on our side our best mate is god and what a diamond gezzer she is v gorgeous ---------------------- I don't know if you created the poem, but I really do like it a lot. I even understood most of it which is encouraging to me. That statement is not meant as an insult but rather says that I don't always get all the meaning in what I read. Judy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 Nisargadatta , judy <judyw1941 wrote: > > The'ego' can never become aware of itself...... > > ...for one very good > reason. > > toombaru > --------------------------- > You may be right and I may be using incorrect terminology. I do see > some of the conditioned beliefs and reactions which is what I label the ego. > > I do want to learn more so perhaps you would be willing to say more. > > Judy > " 99.999 percent of what you do is for yourself............and there isn't one. " Wei Wu Wei (You can find more at " Wei Wu Wei Archives) ((Before you read Wei Wu Wei you should say goodby to your friends and relatives)) toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 " 99.999 percent of what you do is for yourself.... .........and there isn't one. " Wei Wu Wei (You can find more at " Wei Wu Wei Archives) ((Before you read Wei Wu Wei you should say goodby to your friends and relatives)) toombaru =================== Thank you. I will check that site out and see if I can figure out what your last sentence means. I appreciate your help. Judy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 Nisargadatta , judy <judyw1941 wrote: > > The'ego' can never become aware of itself...... > > > > ...for one very good > > reason. > > > > toombaru > > ------------ > > --------------- > > You may be right and I may be using incorrect terminology. I do > see > > some of the conditioned beliefs and reactions which is what I label > the ego. > > > > I do want to learn more so perhaps you would be willing to say more. > > > > Judy > > > > ...the spirit is willing but the flesh is weak? > > In either case, only love cuts through the flesh to touch the spirit., > beyond any reason.......to be....... Being....... > > anna > --------- > My friend, I appreciate your effort in trying to help me with my > confusion, but I am at such a level of needing more concrete > explanations that most things are just over my head. I probably erred > in trying to test out my perception here. > > I see I should be silent until some understanding comes to me. > > Judy > No...........keep asking until you have no more questions. Some here have been asking questions for forty years. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , judy <judyw1941@> wrote: > > > > The'ego' can never become aware of itself...... > > > > > > ...for one very good > > > reason. > > > > > > toombaru > > > ------------ > > > > --------------- > > > You may be right and I may be using incorrect terminology. I do > > see > > > some of the conditioned beliefs and reactions which is what I label > > the ego. > > > > > > I do want to learn more so perhaps you would be willing to say more. > > > > > > Judy > > > > > > > ...the spirit is willing but the flesh is weak? > > > > In either case, only love cuts through the flesh to touch the spirit., > > beyond any reason.......to be....... Being....... > > > > anna > > --------- > > My friend, I appreciate your effort in trying to help me with my > > confusion, but I am at such a level of needing more concrete > > explanations that most things are just over my head. I probably erred > > in trying to test out my perception here. > > > > I see I should be silent until some understanding comes to me. > > > > Judy > > No...........keep asking until you have no more questions. > > > > Some here have been asking questions for forty years. > > > > toombaru ....maybe the " result " depend on which questions are asked....not so much on the number/years of questions Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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