Guest guest Posted October 24, 2006 Report Share Posted October 24, 2006 f you ask me, if I'm enlightened, I know you were not, but let's suppose ). I'd say I'm not, but I'm being used, I feel used by something limitless, something, I neither understand, nor know. And that is a great feeling. You as well, are being used, so why do you feel not so? So why do you feel you are doing what you do, out of your free will, and for your own good. Pete -------- Oh, Pete, how good it feels to read your words though I cannot begin to explain. I do not know if we are speaking of the same thing. It doesn't feel like free will to me. I don't make much effort to understand this. I am only aware of feeling very surprised that it is so. It is kind of a marvel to me and it feels like I am grabbed by it all rather than choosing. What else is surprising is that I am not a very patient woman, yet I feel patience with my lack of understanding. I have never experienced such an avidness such as this. I read and study and do some reflection for most of the hours of the day and this is every day, yet it never feels like a chore, it does not tire me. It is not something I make myself do, there is no force or discipline involved. Judy P: Dear Judy, I think we're talking about the same thing. Saint Teresa of Avila said, " God is a living water that the more we drink , the more we thirst. " So it is this feeling of having been blessed by a thirst, a hunger which satisfies, and still renews itself with a keener urge, which is the greatest blessing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie5 wrote: > > If you ask me, if I'm enlightened, I know you were > not, but let's suppose ). I'd say I'm not, but I'm > being used, I feel used by something limitless, > something, I neither understand, nor know. And > that is a great feeling. You as well, are being > used, so why do you feel not so? So why do you > feel you are doing what you do, out of your free > will, and for your own good. > > Pete nobody is ever realy " used " ....to love... when life is...to love then all questions of " doer or non-doer " have finally an answer within simple ...Being... Marc Ps: all entities are " used " .....as long they live in seperations to each.... as long they can't feel love for life.....love for whatever appearing forms of real Self " enlightenment " is of subject for the ones " who " are being " used " ....to whatever they need to get an ocean of inner peace ....finally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 On Oct 25, 2006, at 3:58 AM, Nisargadatta wrote: > > If you ask me, if I'm enlightened, I know you were > > not, but let's suppose ). I'd say I'm not, but I'm > > being used, I feel used by something limitless, > > something, I neither understand, nor know. And > > that is a great feeling. You as well, are being > > used, so why do you feel not so? So why do you > > feel you are doing what you do, out of your free > > will, and for your own good. > > > > Pete > > nobody is ever realy " used " ....to love... > > when life is...to love > then all questions of " doer or non-doer " have finally an answer > within simple ...Being... > > Marc > > Ps: all entities are " used " .....as long they live in seperations to > each.... > as long they can't feel love for life.....love for whatever appearing > forms of real Self > > " enlightenment " is of subject for the ones " who " are > being " used " ....to whatever they need to get an ocean of inner peace > ...finally non-duality is....to be as ignorant/stupid as one want/decide/is " used " ...to be? if so.....then finally ignorance is transformed into enlightenment within a blink of an eye... ...for some duration of nice fantasie Marc > P: Marc, I'm not fluent in " idiotic, " can you translate what you wrote to " normal language " ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2006 Report Share Posted October 26, 2006 Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie5 wrote: > > > On Oct 25, 2006, at 3:58 AM, Nisargadatta wrote: > > > > If you ask me, if I'm enlightened, I know you were > > > not, but let's suppose ). I'd say I'm not, but I'm > > > being used, I feel used by something limitless, > > > something, I neither understand, nor know. And > > > that is a great feeling. You as well, are being > > > used, so why do you feel not so? So why do you > > > feel you are doing what you do, out of your free > > > will, and for your own good. > > > > > > Pete > > > > nobody is ever realy " used " ....to love... > > > > when life is...to love > > then all questions of " doer or non-doer " have finally an answer > > within simple ...Being... > > > > Marc > > > > Ps: all entities are " used " .....as long they live in seperations to > > each.... > > as long they can't feel love for life.....love for whatever appearing > > forms of real Self > > > > " enlightenment " is of subject for the ones " who " are > > being " used " ....to whatever they need to get an ocean of inner peace > > ...finally > > non-duality is....to be as ignorant/stupid as one > want/decide/is " used " ...to be? > > if so.....then finally ignorance is transformed into enlightenment > within a blink of an eye... > > ...for some duration of nice fantasie > > Marc > > > > P: Marc, I'm not fluent in " idiotic, " can you translate what you wrote > to " normal language " ? > > Hi Pete, " normal language " .....ok, sorry if my words are confusing... i appreciate your description about " being used by a limitless something....that you don't know.... " you make an indirect relation to " Enlightenment " to this.... means...your description could be understood as.... " now, Thats's It! " ......kind of " i don't know realy this limitless something....and therefore, nobody need to know It too " ... i simply wanted to tell, that maybe there is still " something " to discover......please read the above about " nobody is ever realy " used " (by a limitless something)....to love... " i thought that's worths a try....means, letting such words about (limitless) love....flowing through whole of your body parts.....whole of your being.........and....and....(no words about) " whoever " is fluent in " idiotic " ...will need to take the responsibility for this.....again and again.... there is no choice.... i don't know....and also don't realy care if another appearing entity is " fluent in idiotic " ..... those words yesterday were flowing....and it's up to the reader....to think/feel about... Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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