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JOHN: What do you mean `strips away the student's ignorance on the spot?

 

 

Ram: Most people, particularly Westerners unfamiliar with the

teaching tradition of Advaita Vedanta, think Vedanta is just about

studying scripture and therefore only produces intellectuals, pundits

they call them here, who know a bunch of profound concepts…but are not

Self realized. And it is true that there are schools that produce

pundits…which is not all that bad …because the ideas need to be kept

alive anyway.

 

But Vedanta is not a belief system nor is it a passive body of

information that is meant to be interpreted according your own tastes.

It is a means of Self knowledge that works in a very dynamic and

practical way to remove the student's ignorance about who he or she

is. And very often enlightenment happens right in the classroom as

the teacher is unfolding the teachings.

 

This is possible because Vedanta says that you are already enlightened

because you are the Self and there is only one Self. All that

prevents you from knowing it are the erroneous notions you have about

yourself and the world. So assuming you want to be free of your

limiting views you expose yourself to the teaching and it let it

remove your ignorance.

 

 

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Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming "

> <adithya_comming@> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > JOHN: What do you mean `strips away the student's ignorance on the

> spot?

> >

> >

> > Ram: Most people, particularly Westerners unfamiliar with the

> > teaching tradition of Advaita Vedanta, think Vedanta is just about

> > studying scripture and therefore only produces intellectuals, pundits

> > they call them here, who know a bunch of profound concepts…but are not

> > Self realized. And it is true that there are schools that produce

> > pundits…which is not all that bad …because the ideas need to be kept

> > alive anyway.

> >

> > But Vedanta is not a belief system

>

>

>

>

>

> Vedanta IS a belief system.

>

nor is it a passive body of

> > information that is meant to be interpreted according your own tastes.

> > It is a means of Self knowledge that works in a very dynamic and

> > practical way to remove the student's ignorance about who he or she

> > is. And very often enlightenment happens right in the classroom as

> > the teacher is unfolding the teachings.

>

>

>

>

> New age pap!

>

>

>

>

>

> >

> > This is possible because Vedanta says that you are already enlightened

> > because you are the Self and there is only one Self. All that

> > prevents you from knowing it are the erroneous notions you have about

> > yourself and the world. So assuming you want to be free of your

> > limiting views you expose yourself to the teaching and it let it

> > remove your ignorance.

>

>

>

>

>

 

 

 

Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming "

<adithya_comming wrote:

>

>

>

> JOHN: What do you mean `strips away the student's ignorance on the

spot?

>

>

> Ram: Most people, particularly Westerners unfamiliar with the

> teaching tradition of Advaita Vedanta, think Vedanta is just about

> studying scripture and therefore only produces intellectuals, pundits

> they call them here, who know a bunch of profound concepts…but are not

> Self realized. And it is true that there are schools that produce

> pundits…which is not all that bad …because the ideas need to be kept

> alive anyway.

>

> But Vedanta is not a belief system

 

 

 

 

 

Vedanta IS a belief system.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

nor is it a passive body of

> information that is meant to be interpreted according your own tastes.

> It is a means of Self knowledge that works in a very dynamic and

> practical way to remove the student's ignorance about who he or she

> is. And very often enlightenment happens right in the classroom as

> the teacher is unfolding the teachings.

 

 

 

 

New age pap!

 

 

 

 

 

 

A shadow is not enlightened when it is exposed to the sun.

 

A student is not enlightenbed when exposed to the Understanding.

 

 

Ram.............take a seat.

 

 

 

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

 

 

 

toombaru

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Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming "

> > <adithya_comming@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > JOHN: What do you mean `strips away the student's ignorance on the

> > spot?

> > >

> > >

> > > Ram: Most people, particularly Westerners unfamiliar with the

> > > teaching tradition of Advaita Vedanta, think Vedanta is just about

> > > studying scripture and therefore only produces intellectuals,

pundits

> > > they call them here, who know a bunch of profound concepts…but

are not

> > > Self realized. And it is true that there are schools that produce

> > > pundits…which is not all that bad …because the ideas need to be kept

> > > alive anyway.

> > >

> > > But Vedanta is not a belief system

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Vedanta IS a belief system.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > nor is it a passive body of

> > > information that is meant to be interpreted according your own

tastes.

> > > It is a means of Self knowledge that works in a very dynamic and

> > > practical way to remove the student's ignorance about who he or she

> > > is. And very often enlightenment happens right in the classroom as

> > > the teacher is unfolding the teachings.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > New age pap!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > >

> > > This is possible because Vedanta says that you are already

enlightened

> > > because you are the Self and there is only one Self. All that

> > > prevents you from knowing it are the erroneous notions you have

about

> > > yourself and the world. So assuming you want to be free of your

> > > limiting views you expose yourself to the teaching and it let it

> > > remove your ignorance.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

> Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming "

> <adithya_comming@> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > JOHN: What do you mean `strips away the student's ignorance on the

> spot?

> >

> >

> > Ram: Most people, particularly Westerners unfamiliar with the

> > teaching tradition of Advaita Vedanta, think Vedanta is just about

> > studying scripture and therefore only produces intellectuals, pundits

> > they call them here, who know a bunch of profound concepts…but are not

> > Self realized. And it is true that there are schools that produce

> > pundits…which is not all that bad …because the ideas need to be kept

> > alive anyway.

> >

> > But Vedanta is not a belief system

>

>

>

>

>

> Vedanta IS a belief system.

>

nor is it a passive body of

> > information that is meant to be interpreted according your own tastes.

> > It is a means of Self knowledge that works in a very dynamic and

> > practical way to remove the student's ignorance about who he or she

> > is. And very often enlightenment happens right in the classroom as

> > the teacher is unfolding the teachings.

>

>

>

>

> New age pap!

A shadow is not enlightened when it is exposed to the sun.

>

> A student is not enlightenbed when exposed to the Understanding.

>

>

> Ram.............take a seat.

>

>

>

> You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

>

>

>

> toombaru

>

 

 

 

people have no idea

 

 

what they are talking about:

 

 

 

ideas have people about,

 

 

through whom they are talking.

 

 

 

 

 

 

absolute negation

 

 

 

 

is absolute affirmation.

 

 

 

 

 

 

whether one puts the accent on the plus side

 

 

 

 

 

or on the minus side

 

 

 

 

is a merely the measure of the love one is living

 

 

 

 

 

or dying

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