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JOHN: You keep making this distinction between the teaching style of

Ramana and traditional Vedanta. What do you mean exactly?

 

 

 

Ram: Ramana wasn't a traditional teacher but had a great respect for

the teaching tradition. Let me see if I can explain what I mean.

There are two great traditions under the umbrella of Sanatana Dharma,

Vedic culture: Yoga and Vedanta.

 

 

Yoga deals with the experiential side (karma) of spiritual life and is

actually meant for the purpose of purifying the mind. It is not a

valid means of Self knowledge although yogi types sometimes attain

enlightenment, not because of their yoga but because they develop

inquiring minds as a result of all the subtle experiences that their

practices generate and intuitively draw the correct conclusion about

the Self and their identity with it….during or immediately after a

profound epiphany…like Ramana did during his `death' experience…or by

reflecting on their epiphanies over a period of time.

 

Millions of people have the kind of experience Ramana did. I've heard

hundreds of such stories. But almost no one becomes enlightened

during a particular experience (although it may feel like that)

because they fail to grasp the meaning of the experience or the

importance of the one to whom the experience is occurring. It is the

understanding that " I am the Self " that needs to come out of Self

experience.

 

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Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming "

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> JOHN: You keep making this distinction between the teaching style of

> Ramana and traditional Vedanta. What do you mean exactly?

>

>

>

> Ram: Ramana wasn't a traditional teacher but had a great respect for

> the teaching tradition. Let me see if I can explain what I mean.

> There are two great traditions under the umbrella of Sanatana Dharma,

> Vedic culture: Yoga and Vedanta.

>

>

> Yoga deals with the experiential side (karma) of spiritual life and is

> actually meant for the purpose of purifying the mind. It is not a

> valid means of Self knowledge although yogi types sometimes attain

> enlightenment, not because of their yoga but because they develop

> inquiring minds as a result of all the subtle experiences that their

> practices generate and intuitively draw the correct conclusion about

> the Self and their identity with it….during or immediately after a

> profound epiphany…like Ramana did during his `death' experience…or by

> reflecting on their epiphanies over a period of time.

>

> Millions of people have the kind of experience Ramana did. I've heard

> hundreds of such stories. But almost no one becomes enlightened

> during a particular experience (although it may feel like that)

> because they fail to grasp the meaning of the experience or the

> importance of the one to whom the experience is occurring. It is the

> understanding that " I am the Self " that needs to come out of Self

> experience.

>

> <

>

http://www.shiningworld.com/Books%20Pages/HTML%20Books/Ramana%27s%20Teachings.ht\

m

> >

>

 

 

 

 

 

Anyone who believes that they are the 'Self'....is not

enlightened......they are suffering from egoic grandiosity.

 

 

 

Anything downstream from 'I am' is delusional.

 

 

toombaru

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