True or... Delusional?

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JOHN: Most of the people around here that I meet are looking for a

particular experience and think that Ramana was in some special state.

 

 

 

Ram: When a person becomes a deity or a myth a lot is gained but a

lot is lost too. You gain an ideal and inspiration but you lose a

practical connection with the truth.

 

Had Ramana realized in the traditional Vedantic way, at the feet of a

jnani who was teaching the Upanishad he might have picked up the skill

of wielding the means of knowledge and may have gone on to enlighten

hundreds…assuming the Lord sent that many qualified people to him.

 

This is not to in any way diminish Ramana, but while he was sitting at

the foot of Arunachala teaching `in silence' there were great Vedantic

masters like Swami Chinmayananda and his guru Swami Tapovan churning

out many enlightened persons using the traditional verbal methods

passed down from the Lord through Shankara and other great links in

the tradition.

 

 

 

If you know the real spiritual India, not just the export guru scene

and the satsang culture, you will understand that while enlightenment

is rare with reference to the total number of people on the planet

there are tens of thousands of `fully' enlightened people worldwide

and particularly in India.

 

I've lived here many years and was introduced to the highest levels of

Indian spirituality when I was quite young and I've lived with a

number of enlightened people of the same caliber as Ramana and have

personally met more than one hundred enlightened people. And this is

just India.

 

Although I am not an expert on Buddhism I know that it is a living

enlightenment tradition with roots in the Veda that has been going on

for a couple of thousand years, perhaps more. And there are

undoubtedly many thousands of enlightened persons who gained it

through that means; Tibetans, Indochinese, Sri Lankan and Japanese and

now Europeans and Americans.

 

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[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming "

<adithya_comming wrote:

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>

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> JOHN: Most of the people around here that I meet are looking for a

> particular experience and think that Ramana was in some special state.

>

>

>

> Ram: When a person becomes a deity or a myth a lot is gained but a

> lot is lost too. You gain an ideal and inspiration but you lose a

> practical connection with the truth.

>

> Had Ramana realized in the traditional Vedantic way, at the feet of a

> jnani who was teaching the Upanishad he might have picked up the skill

> of wielding the means of knowledge and may have gone on to enlighten

> hundreds…assuming the Lord sent that many qualified people to him.

>

> This is not to in any way diminish Ramana, but while he was sitting at

> the foot of Arunachala teaching `in silence' there were great Vedantic

> masters like Swami Chinmayananda and his guru Swami Tapovan churning

> out many enlightened persons using the traditional verbal methods

> passed down from the Lord through Shankara and other great links in

> the tradition.

>

>

>

> If you know the real spiritual India, not just the export guru scene

> and the satsang culture, you will understand that while enlightenment

> is rare with reference to the total number of people on the planet

> there are tens of thousands of `fully' enlightened people worldwide

> and particularly in India.

>

> I've lived here many years and was introduced to the highest levels of

> Indian spirituality when I was quite young and I've lived with a

> number of enlightened people of the same caliber as Ramana and have

> personally met more than one hundred enlightened people. And this is

> just India.

>

> Although I am not an expert on Buddhism I know that it is a living

> enlightenment tradition with roots in the Veda that has been going on

> for a couple of thousand years, perhaps more. And there are

> undoubtedly many thousands of enlightened persons who gained it

> through that means; Tibetans, Indochinese, Sri Lankan and Japanese and

> now Europeans and Americans.

>

>

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The odds of a human becoming enlightened are the same as one of the

people in your dream last night escaping the dream or a character in a

movie finding a way off the screen.

 

That realization..........is enlightenment.

 

 

toombaru