Guest guest Posted October 28, 2006 Report Share Posted October 28, 2006 JOHN: What do you mean by `qualified for enlightenment?' Ram: Many Western people have no idea what sadhana is. They actually think that they can just get a ticket to India and get on the spiritual circuit and attend a satsang or two and they will get `awakened.' They may have some experiences but if you get `awakened' you will certainly fall back to sleep, usually because there is no sadhana in place. And there are gurus who themselves did sadhana but are loath to insist that their disciples do it…for fear of losing them, I suppose. You see many people who have been to Ramesh coming through Tiruvannamalai and what they seem to have got is the idea that they are not `doers.' So their sadhana is no sadhana. Why? Because they have been told there is nothing you can do because your enlightenment is not up to you. It's all up to `grace.' I'm not sure why the resolve to do vigorous sadhana is not the grace of God…but there you are. It's true that you are not a doer, but the you that is not a doer is the Self. The ego doesn't become a non-doer by trying not to `do' anything. This sort of teaching is very misleading because it is tailor made for the ego. It gives it the impression that it can have its cake and eat it too. But it has value too…for someone addicted to doing, someone whose self worth is tied up in accomplishing things. People are continually bewildered by the fact that Ramana was supposedly a non-dual jnani and that he preached religion and sadhana which is dvaita, duality. But he is completely in line with traditional Vedanta on this issue. Purification is at least as important as knowledge, perhaps more so, because without a clear mind, you will not get knowledge, jnanam. This idea does not sit well with people nowadays. They want it handed to them on a platter. This accounts for the popularity of the shaktipat gurus and the miracle makers. Around them you have a whole class of people who actually believe that the guru is doing the work for them! JOHN: But Ramana didn't do sadhana to get enlightenment. Ram: That's true…but he certainly did sadhana after it. Knowing who he was, he need not have sat in meditation in caves for many years, he could have gone home and eaten his mom's iddlys and played cricket. It was all the same to him. But he didn't. He decided to purify his mind. The glory of Ramana is not his enlightenment. It was just the same as every other enlightenment that's ever been. His glory was his pure mind. He polished his mind to such a degree that it was particularly radiant… a great blessing to himself and everyone whom he contacted. That kind of mind you only get through serious sadhana, or yoga, if you will. These modern gurus, particularly the so-called `crazy wisdom' gurus who seem to revel in gross mind, refuse to encourage people to develop themselves because they do not understand the tremendous pleasure that comes from a pure mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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