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Dear Group,

 

I've read some of his books and I think he thought

the right way to medidate was to be just focussed on one's

own consciousness or awareness. I just want to clarify if this

was his method. If any one has any useful tips on how to deepen

one's medidation please elucidate.

thanks.

alakeshwar

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Nisargadatta , " alakeshwar " <alakeshwar wrote:

>

>

> Dear Group,

>

> I've read some of his books and I think he thought

> the right way to medidate was to be just focussed on one's

> own consciousness or awareness. I just want to clarify if this

> was his method. If any one has any useful tips on how to deepen

> one's medidation please elucidate.

> thanks.

> alakeshwar

>

 

 

 

 

Ask yourself throughout the day:

 

" How can I do these things? "

 

 

 

 

 

toombaru

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Nisargadatta , " alakeshwar " <alakeshwar

wrote:

>

>

> Dear Group,

>

> I've read some of his books and I think he thought

> the right way to medidate was to be just focussed on one's

> own consciousness or awareness. I just want to clarify if this

> was his method. If any one has any useful tips on how to deepen

> one's medidation please elucidate.

> thanks.

> alakeshwar

>

 

This is from the Nisargadatta.net site

 

 

Whether it is a ritualistic practice or not, one can find in I am That

and in the Ultimate Medicine what appears to be instructions on how to

meditate.

 

 

Maharaj: For meditation you should sit with identification with the

knowledge " I am " only and have confirmed to yourself that you are not

the body. You must dwell only in that knowledge " I am " --not merely

the words " I am. " The design of your body does not signify your

identification. And also, the name which is given to you or to the

body is not your correct identity. The name which is imposed on you,

or the name which you have heard about you--you have accepted that

name as yourself. Similarly, since you have seen your body, you think

you are the body. So you have to give up both these identities. And

the indwelling knowledge that you are, without words, that itself you

are. In that identity, you must stabilize yourself. And then,

whatever doubts you have, will be cleared by that very knowledge, and

everything will be opened up in you.

 

**

 

Question: All teachers advise to meditate. What is the purpose of

meditation?

 

Maharaj: We know the outer world of sensations and actions. But of our

inner world of thoughts and feelings we know very little. The primary

purpose of meditation is to become conscious of, and familiar with,

our inner life. The ultimate purpose is to reach the source of life

and consciousness. Incidentally, practice of meditation affects deeply

our character. We are slaves to what we do not know. Whatever vice or

weakness in ourselves we discover and understand its causes and its

workings, we overcome it by the very knowing; the unconscious

dissolves when brought into the conscious. The dissolution of the

unconscious release energy; the mind feels adequate and become quiet.

 

**

 

My teacher told me to hold on to the sense 'I am' tenaciously and not

to swerve from it even for a moment. I did my best to follow his

advice and in a comparatively short time I realized within myself the

truth of his teaching. All I did was to remember his teaching, his

face, his words constantly. This brought an end to the mind; in the

stillness of the mind I saw myself as I am -- unbound.

 

I simply followed (my teacher's) instruction which was to focus the

mind on pure being 'I am', and stay in it. I used to sit for hours

together, with nothing but the 'I am' in my mind and soon peace and

joy and a deep all-embracing love became my normal state. In it all

disappeared -- myself, my Guru, the life I lived, the world around me.

Only peace remained and unfathomable silence.

 

My Guru ordered me to attend to the sense 'I am' and to give attention

to nothing else. I just obeyed. I did not follow any particular course

of breathing, or meditation, or study of scriptures. Whatever

happened, I would turn away my attention from it and remain with the

sense 'I am', it may look too simple, even crude. My only reason for

doing it was that my Guru told me so. Yet it worked! Obedience is a

powerful solvent of all desires and fears.

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Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " alakeshwar " <alakeshwar@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Dear Group,

> >

> > I've read some of his books and I think he thought

> > the right way to medidate was to be just focussed on one's

> > own consciousness or awareness. I just want to clarify if this

> > was his method. If any one has any useful tips on how to deepen

> > one's medidation please elucidate.

> > thanks.

> > alakeshwar

> >

>

>

>

>

> Ask yourself throughout the day:

>

> " How can I do these things? "

>

> toombaru

 

P: Nonsense! Questionsonly begets more questions.

It's not about finding right answers either. It's

simply feeeling that which feels until it reveals

that which is beyond consciousness.

>

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Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " alakeshwar " <alakeshwar@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Group,

> > >

> > > I've read some of his books and I think he thought

> > > the right way to medidate was to be just focussed on one's

 

> > > own consciousness or awareness. I just want to clarify if this

> > > was his method. If any one has any useful tips on how to deepen

> > > one's medidation please elucidate.

> > > thanks.

> > > alakeshwar

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Ask yourself throughout the day:

> >

> > " How can I do these things? "

> >

> > toombaru

>

> P: Nonsense! Questionsonly begets more questions.

> It's not about finding right answers either. It's

> simply feeeling that which feels until it reveals

> that which is beyond consciousness.

> >

>

 

 

There is nothing beyond consciousness.

 

THAT IS the Understanding.

 

toombaru

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Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain

wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " alakeshwar " <alakeshwar@>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Group,

> > > >

> > > > I've read some of his books and I think he thought

> > > > the right way to medidate was to be just focussed on

one's

>

> > > > own consciousness or awareness. I just want to clarify if

this

> > > > was his method. If any one has any useful tips on how to

deepen

> > > > one's medidation please elucidate.

> > > > thanks.

> > > > alakeshwar

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Ask yourself throughout the day:

> > >

> > > " How can I do these things? "

> > >

> > > toombaru

> >

> > P: Nonsense! Questionsonly begets more questions.

> > It's not about finding right answers either. It's

> > simply feeeling that which feels until it reveals

> > that which is beyond consciousness.

> > >

> >

>

>

> There is nothing beyond consciousness.

>

> THAT IS the Understanding.

>

> toombaru

>

BANG ON RED BARON!

 

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Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

<Roberibus111 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@>

> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " alakeshwar "

<alakeshwar@>

> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Group,

> > > > >

> > > > > I've read some of his books and I think he

thought

> > > > > the right way to medidate was to be just focussed on

> one's

> >

> > > > > own consciousness or awareness. I just want to clarify

if

> this

> > > > > was his method. If any one has any useful tips on how

to

> deepen

> > > > > one's medidation please elucidate.

> > > > > thanks.

> > > > > alakeshwar

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Ask yourself throughout the day:

> > > >

> > > > " How can I do these things? "

> > > >

> > > > toombaru

> > >

> > > P: Nonsense! Questionsonly begets more questions.

> > > It's not about finding right answers either. It's

> > > simply feeeling that which feels until it reveals

> > > that which is beyond consciousness.

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> > There is nothing beyond consciousness.

> >

> > THAT IS the Understanding.

> >

> > toombaru

> >

> BANG ON RED BARON!

>

> .b

>

but now......is there consciousness beyond nothing?

 

.b

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Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111

wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

> <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@>

> > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " alakeshwar "

> <alakeshwar@>

> > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Group,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I've read some of his books and I think he

> thought

> > > > > > the right way to medidate was to be just focussed on

> > one's

> > >

> > > > > > own consciousness or awareness. I just want to clarify

> if

> > this

> > > > > > was his method. If any one has any useful tips on how

> to

> > deepen

> > > > > > one's medidation please elucidate.

> > > > > > thanks.

> > > > > > alakeshwar

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Ask yourself throughout the day:

> > > > >

> > > > > " How can I do these things? "

> > > > >

> > > > > toombaru

> > > >

> > > > P: Nonsense! Questionsonly begets more questions.

> > > > It's not about finding right answers either. It's

> > > > simply feeeling that which feels until it reveals

> > > > that which is beyond consciousness.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > > There is nothing beyond consciousness.

> > >

> > > THAT IS the Understanding.

> > >

> > > toombaru

> > >

> > BANG ON RED BARON!

> >

> > .b

> >

> but now......is there consciousness beyond nothing?

>

> .b

>

 

 

 

There is no such thing as nothing.

 

 

 

toombaru

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Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain

wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

> > <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@>

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 "

<lastrain@>

> > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nisargadatta , " alakeshwar "

> > <alakeshwar@>

> > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Group,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I've read some of his books and I think he

> > thought

> > > > > > > the right way to medidate was to be just focussed

on

> > > one's

> > > >

> > > > > > > own consciousness or awareness. I just want to

clarify

> > if

> > > this

> > > > > > > was his method. If any one has any useful tips on

how

> > to

> > > deepen

> > > > > > > one's medidation please elucidate.

> > > > > > > thanks.

> > > > > > > alakeshwar

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Ask yourself throughout the day:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > " How can I do these things? "

> > > > > >

> > > > > > toombaru

> > > > >

> > > > > P: Nonsense! Questionsonly begets more questions.

> > > > > It's not about finding right answers either. It's

> > > > > simply feeeling that which feels until it reveals

> > > > > that which is beyond consciousness.

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > There is nothing beyond consciousness.

> > > >

> > > > THAT IS the Understanding.

> > > >

> > > > toombaru

> > > >

> > > BANG ON RED BARON!

> > >

> > > .b

> > >

> > but now......is there consciousness beyond nothing?

> >

> > .b

> >

>

>

>

> There is no such thing as nothing.

>

>

>

> toombaru

>

there is no such thing as 'something'.

there are no 'things' whatsoever.

there is no such thing as no such thing.

consciousness is a fabrication of nothing at all..and no one..in and

from and through and going nowhere.

a statement like this, is like a kiss,

and a kiss is just a kiss as time goes by.

and yet there is no such thing as time.

there is nothing that can be said.

that's nothing too.

and two nothings are still only nothing.

you can learn how to play the game.....it's EASY.

there is nothing that you can 'do'

but you can learn how to feel inside

......it's EASY.

 

SPEAK!

 

.b

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Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

<Roberibus111 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

<Roberibus111@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

> > > <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 "

<lastrain@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@>

> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 "

> <lastrain@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " alakeshwar "

> > > <alakeshwar@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Group,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I've read some of his books and I think he

> > > thought

> > > > > > > > the right way to medidate was to be just focussed

> on

> > > > one's

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > own consciousness or awareness. I just want to

> clarify

> > > if

> > > > this

> > > > > > > > was his method. If any one has any useful tips

on

> how

> > > to

> > > > deepen

> > > > > > > > one's medidation please elucidate.

> > > > > > > > thanks.

> > > > > > > > alakeshwar

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Ask yourself throughout the day:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > " How can I do these things? "

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > toombaru

> > > > > >

> > > > > > P: Nonsense! Questionsonly begets more questions.

> > > > > > It's not about finding right answers either. It's

> > > > > > simply feeeling that which feels until it reveals

> > > > > > that which is beyond consciousness.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > There is nothing beyond consciousness.

> > > > >

> > > > > THAT IS the Understanding.

> > > > >

> > > > > toombaru

> > > > >

> > > > BANG ON RED BARON!

> > > >

> > > > .b

> > > >

> > > but now......is there consciousness beyond nothing?

> > >

> > > .b

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> > There is no such thing as nothing.

> >

> >

> >

> > toombaru

> >

> there is no such thing as 'something'.

> there are no 'things' whatsoever.

> there is no such thing as no such thing.

> consciousness is a fabrication of nothing at all..and no one..in

and

> from and through and going nowhere.

> a statement like this, is like a kiss,

> and a kiss is just a kiss as time goes by.

> and yet there is no such thing as time.

> there is nothing that can be said.

> that's nothing too.

> and two nothings are still only nothing.

> you can learn how to play the game.....it's EASY.

> there is nothing that you can 'do'

> but you can learn how to feel inside

> .....it's EASY.

>

> SPEAK!

>

> .

b

>

IT IS SO WRITTEN

 

You take my Soul

you dip me in Magellan Blue

with utmost care

 

for you have found my hiding place

behind an ancient timepiece

shamed into abeyance

where shadows reach not.

 

Now you ring me out with both your

hands, stong and chiseled

I feel your purpose

 

You have made me ready--

 

Now you write, this fine perfect

Writing tool I Am

 

my feet a feather tip, I am the swirl

of your letters, the crosses of your

words,

 

Oh, what writing we write!

 

And now

the parchment yellows

it crumbles in your hands

it blows away in your exhale--

 

Return me gently

to my hiding place.

 

You have used me well.

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> > > > >

> > > > > P: Nonsense! Questionsonly begets more questions.

> > > > > It's not about finding right answers either. It's

> > > > > simply feeeling that which feels until it reveals

> > > > > that which is beyond consciousness.

> > > > > >> > > >

> > > > There is nothing beyond consciousness.

> > > >

> > > > THAT IS the Understanding.

> toomb

>

> There is no such thing as nothing.

>

> toombaru

>

 

P: A man playing with himself, will get hard;

a mind playing with itself (conceptually) will

get very stiff, also. Toomb, you have gone blind,

as the nuns told you, you would. ;))

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Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6 wrote:

>

>

> > > > > >

> > > > > > P: Nonsense! Questionsonly begets more questions.

> > > > > > It's not about finding right answers either. It's

> > > > > > simply feeeling that which feels until it reveals

> > > > > > that which is beyond consciousness.

> > > > > > >> > > >

> > > > > There is nothing beyond consciousness.

> > > > >

> > > > > THAT IS the Understanding.

> > toomb

> >

> > There is no such thing as nothing.

> >

> > toombaru

> >

>

> P: A man playing with himself, will get hard;

> a mind playing with itself (conceptually) will

> get very stiff, also. Toomb, you have gone blind,

> as the nuns told you, you would. ;))

>

 

 

 

damn Pete, who else ya gonna play with;-)

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Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6 wrote:

>

>

> > > > > >

> > > > > > P: Nonsense! Questionsonly begets more questions.

> > > > > > It's not about finding right answers either. It's

> > > > > > simply feeeling that which feels until it reveals

> > > > > > that which is beyond consciousness.

> > > > > > >> > > >

> > > > > There is nothing beyond consciousness.

> > > > >

> > > > > THAT IS the Understanding.

> > toomb

> >

> > There is no such thing as nothing.

> >

> > toombaru

> >

>

> P: A man playing with himself, will get hard;

> a mind playing with itself (conceptually) will

> get very stiff, also. Toomb, you have gone blind,

> as the nuns told you, you would. ;))

 

 

 

 

 

Mind can only play with its self.....there is no other.

 

 

 

toombaru

 

 

 

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Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain

wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > P: Nonsense! Questionsonly begets more questions.

> > > > > > > It's not about finding right answers either. It's

> > > > > > > simply feeeling that which feels until it reveals

> > > > > > > that which is beyond consciousness.

> > > > > > > >> > > >

> > > > > > There is nothing beyond consciousness.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > THAT IS the Understanding.

> > > toomb

> > >

> > > There is no such thing as nothing.

> > >

> > > toombaru

> > >

> >

> > P: A man playing with himself, will get hard;

> > a mind playing with itself (conceptually) will

> > get very stiff, also. Toomb, you have gone blind,

> > as the nuns told you, you would. ;))

>

>

>

>

>

> Mind can only play with its self.....there is no other.

>

>

>

> toombaru

>

>

>

> >

>

Mind doth 'vanish'... 'arrive'... 'understand.. without thought or

identification', in any and all terms: (conscious),(self),(SELF).No

ACTION occurs in the TIMELESS that is always and ever the case. There

exists not 'no other' in GROUND, anymore than there can be 'that

which is not other'(implying some 'separate', experiencing, self

which is the creator and player within the projected WORLD. WORDS

create any and all others and selfs, that can PLAY'. SELF, self,

OTHER....SPACE, TIME, DIMENSION, AWARENESS, CONSCIOUSNESS, COGNITION,

WORLD, GODS, SEEN AND UNSEEN...BEYONDS, BEFORES, NOWS, HOWS

WHYS,....ad infinitum, to powers of magnitude inconceivable. ALL are

equally defined, and never 'other then', 'nor self identified'..nor

unconscious, nor conscious, in any sense 'strange'. This very non-

strangeness, or weirdness, experienced or felt or known of this new,

yet always-time situation being 'experienced' by the focused and

demarked, self-identified 'self or ego.. seems so bizarre, the most

weird of most weird REALITY, that comes on, is, forever will be...

unbelievably and unexpected TRUTH. PLAYING IS. No players can be

found, but for the vapors within and without .Coming and going,

arising and disappearing....without ends, beginnings, causes,

effects, 'reason', nor irrational...nor a-rational..nor not not etc.

 

Pax Vobicum on the path that isn't there. The meeting or the parting,

the JOY, PAIN, SADNESS, FACINATION, LOVE, HATE, ENNUI.....etc.etc.,

these are forever and never; and, by no one for no one or nothing.

WORDS can also F**K up what's trying..is..ALREADY KNOWN but

remembering to FORGET. There is nothing else. There is nothing that

can know 'else'. But the GAME..... SEEMS....

 

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friend,

hur`s answer aside, these dipshits are clearly delusional. maharaj

says simply to

focus on the " i am " . he says that if we turn our attention away from our desires

and fears,

simply turn away from them, and stand naked, exposed to the winds and rains of

life, only

then will we have a chance at understanding who we really are, or rather who we

really are

not. this is the only method that i see maharaj offering. different

words/sights/sounds,

will mean more to some than to others as personalities vary, but no matter what

the

sentiment, these things that have signifigance, will for the sincere seeker lead

right back

to the silence and depth of i am. now, just focussing our attention on the i am

for a

moment isn`t such a heavy task. it is clear to see that the aforementioned

dipshits who

clutter this discussion have themselves been able to clear their minds and focus

on the i

am, for a moment or two. having peeked into some semblance of awareness, they

race

back to their dream and pat themselves on the back, congratulating themselves on

some

kind of acccomplishment and continue their dream as deep thinkers, spewing

bullshit in

the name of maharaj. the question is, how strong is your willingness to look?

how sincere

is your inner urge to dive deeper into yourself and not compromise, not rush

back to the

dream after a few choice seconds in meditation. maharaj says that faith is the

only thing

that can give you the strength and persistance needed to stay in that awareness.

this faith

is a beacon that shines from your own self. only that mysterious faith and pure

love of the

self will carry you deep enough into the i am meditation to begin seeing as

maharaj

promises. have courage, and don`t give up. be patient with yourself and keep

trying. the

changes will come on their own without any effort, just stay silent and look.

 

- In Nisargadatta , " alakeshwar " <alakeshwar wrote:

>

>

> Dear Group,

>

> I've read some of his books and I think he thought

> the right way to medidate was to be just focussed on one's

> own consciousness or awareness. I just want to clarify if this

> was his method. If any one has any useful tips on how to deepen

> one's medidation please elucidate.

> thanks.

> alakeshwar

>

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The irony is the One thing we need for sure is the gift that is

opened with our innocent child-eyes*: this infinite intimate

awareness with which we are already born and know quite intimately....

 

* the second sight/the One Seeing...

 

Love To All,

Anna

 

 

 

 

Nisargadatta , " ramanama06 " <ramanama06

wrote:

>

> friend,

> hur`s answer aside, these dipshits are clearly

delusional. maharaj says simply to

> focus on the " i am " . he says that if we turn our attention away

from our desires and fears,

> simply turn away from them, and stand naked, exposed to the winds

and rains of life, only

> then will we have a chance at understanding who we really are, or

rather who we really are

> not. this is the only method that i see maharaj offering.

different words/sights/sounds,

> will mean more to some than to others as personalities vary, but no

matter what the

> sentiment, these things that have signifigance, will for the

sincere seeker lead right back

> to the silence and depth of i am. now, just focussing our attention

on the i am for a

> moment isn`t such a heavy task. it is clear to see that the

aforementioned dipshits who

> clutter this discussion have themselves been able to clear their

minds and focus on the i

> am, for a moment or two. having peeked into some semblance of

awareness, they race

> back to their dream and pat themselves on the back, congratulating

themselves on some

> kind of acccomplishment and continue their dream as deep thinkers,

spewing bullshit in

> the name of maharaj. the question is, how strong is your

willingness to look? how sincere

> is your inner urge to dive deeper into yourself and not compromise,

not rush back to the

> dream after a few choice seconds in meditation. maharaj says that

faith is the only thing

> that can give you the strength and persistance needed to stay in

that awareness. this faith

> is a beacon that shines from your own self. only that mysterious

faith and pure love of the

> self will carry you deep enough into the i am meditation to begin

seeing as maharaj

> promises. have courage, and don`t give up. be patient with yourself

and keep trying. the

> changes will come on their own without any effort, just stay silent

and look.

>

> - In Nisargadatta , " alakeshwar " <alakeshwar@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Dear Group,

> >

> > I've read some of his books and I think he thought

> > the right way to medidate was to be just focussed on

one's

> > own consciousness or awareness. I just want to clarify if this

> > was his method. If any one has any useful tips on how to

deepen

> > one's medidation please elucidate.

> > thanks.

> > alakeshwar

> >

>

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