Guest guest Posted November 28, 2006 Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 " Once more unto the breach, dear friends. " > > Andrew Yes, and Once more unto the breath, dear friends. Nisargadatta , " Andrew Macnab " <aamacnab wrote: > > > > The thought I am nothing is useful > if it serves to reduce you to silence, > which comes with the exhaustion of your > human efforts. > Once more unto the breach, dear friends. > > Andrew > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > It's a nice quote. > > > > Yet, one can't become nothing - if one could, one would be something > > other than nothing, and then nothing wouldn't be everything. > > > > If nothing is already always everything, then how is it that one > > doesn't know this which one already always is - that which is never > > not the case? > > > > Well, there's nothing to know. If there were something to know, there > > would be something to be added into nothing in the form of new > > knowledge, in which case, it wouldn't be nothing/everything. > > > > If there's nothing for one to know, why does one have the feeling of > > being incomplete, of life being unsatisfactory in various ways? > > > > Because one believes one has self-existence (in a particular and > > exclusive way) and therefore needs to survive, establish, maintain, > > get, hold, and become. > > > > But these beliefs aren't being held by anyone, are they? > > > > There is only nothing/everything the whole time. > > > > So, this is the difficulty that people have. > > > > They are trying to hold and maintain beliefs, primarily the belief in > > an existence of their own to be dealt with, and there isn't any way to > > or place to hold the belief, let alone to have the existence. > > > > A lot of storm and fury signifying nothing, said the bard. > > > > Much ado about nothing. > > > > Yet, if someone is in a car accident, one has to deal with the > > repercussions, no? It doesn't work to say, " I am nothing, so this > > didn't happen, so there's nothing to deal with. " (For example, > > someone needing to go to the hospital, or police to notify, or > > insurance to claim.) > > > > So, for one's life to work it's not enough to say, " nothing is > > everything and this is who I am. " > > > > The day to day details of life can't be avoided. Including the ways > > one wants to maintain, promote, and extend assumed self-existence. > > > > Aye, there's the rub - the bard said that, too. " To sleep, perchance > > to dream, aye - there's the rub. " > > > > The so-called dream one is, is the everything that is perceived, and > > the details of this which one is are not to be avoided by a > > philosophy, through devotion to a sage or religion (nor a belief in > > nonduality). Or, one can try to avoid, and see how well that works. > > > > -- Dan > > > > (nothing new below) > > > > Nisargadatta , " one1nottwo2 " <one1nottwo2@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > You are nothing > > > when you wed the One; > > > but you are everything > > > when you become nothing. > > > > > > Faquruddin Iraqui. > > > > > > * > > > > > > Tommy.X. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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