Guest guest Posted November 29, 2006 Report Share Posted November 29, 2006 Answer your own question, then. Nisargadatta , " one1nottwo2 " <one1nottwo2 wrote: > > > Why do some think they know it all when one is supposed to know > nothing, as for me, I know everthing because I know nothing. > > T > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> > wrote: > > > > > > That's what I'M saying, daaling. > > > > (And don't be so condescending or patronizing: I relegate that > right > > to MYSELF only!) > > > > > > and a cutesy > > > > ) > > > > > > right back at ya..... > > > > > > (in good faith, of course!) > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> > wrote: > > > > > > Not quite my dear, > > > > > > non-duality holds ALL states of Being... > > > > > > ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That oceanic feeling often comes when the body releases > endorphins > > > due > > > > to stress, such as hunger, lack of sleep, etc. > > > > > > > > I don't admire or consider the heroes of others to be > particularly > > > > nondual. > > > > > > > > Nor do I even concider nonduality to be an ideal state under > all > > > > conditions. > > > > > > > > > > > > One person's nonduality is another's duality, and vice versa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This always amuses me, these musings on correct eating, > eating > > > being > > > > > the cause of this that and the other thing. > > > > > > > > > > I know one thing for sure when I was in my highest awareness > > > states I > > > > > barely ate and slept. All life flowed through in as of me. > > > > > > > > > > If I remember correctly Ramana and Nis nor Christ, nor > Gandhi, > > > nor > > > > > MLK, nor ______________, lived forever. On the aforemention > > > short > > > > > list, some died in the ravages of cancer and some being > > > assassinated > > > > > even though they were peacemakers, or just because. > > > > > > > > > > Non-duality is ever apparent. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Metta, > > > > > Anna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you might want to check out > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.lowcarb.ca/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > scientifically, I think the old dietary traditions of > India are > > > > > > antiquated, even if there apprears to be some (misleading, > > > actually) > > > > > > " truth " to them. > > > > > > > > > > > > Bottom Line: The body needs protein and other nutrients > that > > > are > > > > > > simply not available in a vegetarian diet. Pure and > simple. > > > The > > > > > > scientific evidence is Overwhelming. > > > > > > > > > > > > Go with links associated with the above site, and see for > > > yourself! > > > > > > > > > > > > As far as what seemed to confirm the gunas ideology for > you, I > > > think > > > > > > it can be easily explained in terms of a body finally > getting > > > the > > > > > > nutrients it needs, while, nevertheless, having to adjust > to > > > the > > > > > > somewhat toxic reaction to not yet being accustomed to a > > > healthy > > > > > diet. > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope I don't sound TOO damn dogmatic. Again, just check > out > > > the > > > > > > literature. It will require some patience and > thoroughness, > > > > > however, > > > > > > to see this all clearly. > > > > > > > > > > > > There's a hell of a lot of misinformation out there! > ( " Tell > > > me > > > > > about > > > > > > it! " ) > > > > > > > > > > > > Remember, a lot of misinformation is a justification of the > > > > > > master-slave mentality, under which India, with its caste > > > system, > > > > > has > > > > > > lived for millinia. Think about it: now wouldn't it make > > > sense to > > > > > > encourage the lower and middle castes to be more passive > and > > > > > > submissive, to be satisfied with their lot? > > > > > > > > > > > > Hasn't this traditionally been the role of > institutionalized > > > > > religion? > > > > > > Was Marx totally wrong to say that religion is the opiate > of > > > the > > > > > people? > > > > > > > > > > > > And who provides all the drugs to the people? Why big > > > government, > > > > > of > > > > > > course: the CIA, FDA, etc., etc., etc..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (Don't get me started!) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pontifications (con't) > > > > > > > > > > > > The overriding theme of sociality is always (non-) > aggression. > > > The > > > > > > dialectic is always: aggression--non-aggression-- > > > reconciliation > > > > > (Cf., > > > > > > Hegel's dialectic.) Advaita is neither/both > > > > > > aggression/non-aggression: pure conciliation beyond this > > > duality. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming " > > > > > > <adithya_comming@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am interested in exploring the link > > > > > > > between anger and food and also between > > > > > > > anger, energy and virility. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In India, diet and its effect on the > > > > > > > body is believed to directly impact > > > > > > > quality of emotions and thoughts. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is believed that eating light, > > > > > > > vegetarian food in moderate quantity > > > > > > > helps make you peaceful and it helps > > > > > > > clean your thought of excess violence, > > > > > > > aggression and anger. It is considered > > > > > > > good for spiritual inquiry, practice > > > > > > > and prayer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is also believed that eating meat, > > > > > > > eggs make you strong, gives you lot of > > > > > > > energy but it also generates lot of > > > > > > > body heat and increases anger, > > > > > > > aggression and tendency for violence. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In India, Brahmins (and those engaged > > > > > > > in spiritual studies, prayers and > > > > > > > mental purifications) are asked to > > > > > > > adhere to vegetarian diet. And, it is > > > > > > > accepted that Kshatriya (the warrior > > > > > > > caste) and others who are engage in > > > > > > > wars and battles eat meat, eggs and > > > > > > > other animal products. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you have any experience in this area? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Have you found it true in your practice? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Recently (after long interval) I had 5 egg > > > > > > > whites for morning breakfast for two > > > > > > > days in row and I was taken > > > > > > > aback by the impact it had on my body. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On plus side I felt very energetic, > > > > > > > strong (as if under the influence of > > > > > > > some drug or hormones), I felt very > > > > > > > potent sexually. But, one the minus > > > > > > > side I felt lot of inner body heat, lot > > > > > > > of aggression and very violent and > > > > > > > aggressive anger that I found quite > > > > > > > difficult to contain. I was taken aback > > > > > > > by this sudden change. It appeared as > > > > > > > if for some unknown reason lot of > > > > > > > hormones (maybe testosterone) were > > > > > > > released in my blood. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quite interestingly, I didn't feel the > > > > > > > back spasm that I used to feel > > > > > > > frequently since I had moved to > > > > > > > relatively colder area and I was able > > > > > > > to physically lift and move items (such > > > > > > > as TV) that I previously found too > > > > > > > heavy for me. I also had unusual (for > > > > > > > recent times) erections and sexual > > > > > > > libido and sexual aggression. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I found that there was a beastly > > > > > > > edge to my love making during > > > > > > > that period. My " love making " was > > > > > > > wilder, more aggressive and rougher > > > > > > > during these 2-3 days. I was also more > > > > > > > demanding and felt much stronger need > > > > > > > for it. Further, my sex too appeared > > > > > > > more as part of my aggression and the > > > > > > > expression of my energy and " power " > > > > > > > rather than my " love " ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From all its symptoms it did appear > > > > > > > like a hormonal change and I was > > > > > > > surprised that it happened to coincide > > > > > > > with the change in my morning breakfast > > > > > > > habit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you have any explanation? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Have you had ever had a similar > > > > > > > experience? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *As far as I know India and Nepal are > > > > > > > only two countries that are > > > > > > > predominantly vegetarian. Hinduism and > > > > > > > Buddhism are only two major religions > > > > > > > that are predominantly vegetarian. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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