different appearing worlds....depending on the degree of ignorance

December 1, 2006

the world of restless minds

is filled up with every

imaginary forms and systems

....One world so....filled up with many little confused ego-minds

....just like the one of the restless mind looking at It

the world of peaceful minds

is filled up with nothing but peace & love

....One world so....filled up with One Being of infinite peace & love

....just the Same like the imaginary individual mind....looking at It

Marc

December 1, 2006

Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 "

<dennis_travis33 wrote:

>

> the world of restless minds

> is filled up with every

> imaginary forms and systems

>

> ...One world so....filled up with many little confused ego-minds

> ...just like the one of the restless mind looking at It

>

> the world of peaceful minds

> is filled up with nothing but peace & love

>

> ...One world so....filled up with One Being of infinite peace & love

> ...just the Same like the imaginary individual mind....looking at It

>

> Marc

>

Mack,

No world of ignorance

No world of peace & love

That's just another DUALITY, Buster!

Nonduality is just the whole kit and caboodle in perpetual

Trans

For

ma

tion

signed,

YOURelation!!!!!!!!!!!!!

December 1, 2006

Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 "

> <dennis_travis33@> wrote:

> >

> > the world of restless minds

> > is filled up with every

> > imaginary forms and systems

> >

> > ...One world so....filled up with many little confused ego-minds

> > ...just like the one of the restless mind looking at It

> >

> > the world of peaceful minds

> > is filled up with nothing but peace & love

> >

> > ...One world so....filled up with One Being of infinite peace & love

> > ...just the Same like the imaginary individual mind....looking at

It

> >

> > Marc

> >

>

Mack,

>

> No world of ignorance

>

> No world of peace & love

>

> That's just another DUALITY, Buster!

>

> Nonduality is just the whole kit and caboodle in perpetual

>

Trans

>

> For

>

ma

>

tion

>

signed,

>

YOURelation!!!!!!!!!!!!!

nice imaginations....

non-duality.....is peace & love.....here and now

no real transformation necessary.....except to forget/give-up the

little thinking ego-mind....

wish a peaceful mind.....even if you don't want to have one

Marc

December 1, 2006

Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 "

<dennis_travis33 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 "

> > <dennis_travis33@> wrote:

> > >

> > > the world of restless minds

> > > is filled up with every

> > > imaginary forms and systems

> > >

> > > ...One world so....filled up with many little confused ego-minds

> > > ...just like the one of the restless mind looking at It

> > >

> > > the world of peaceful minds

> > > is filled up with nothing but peace & love

> > >

> > > ...One world so....filled up with One Being of infinite peace & love

> > > ...just the Same like the imaginary individual mind....looking at

> It

> > >

> > > Marc

> > >

> >

> > Mack,

> >

> > No world of ignorance

> >

> > No world of peace & love

> >

> > That's just another DUALITY, Buster!

> >

> > Nonduality is just the whole kit and caboodle in perpetual

> >

> > Trans

> >

> > For

> >

> > ma

> >

> > tion

> >

> > signed,

> >

> > YOURelation!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>

> nice imaginations....

>

> non-duality.....is peace & love.....here and now

>

> no real transformation necessary.....except to forget/give-up the

> little thinking ego-mind....

>

> wish a peaceful mind.....even if you don't want to have one

>

> Marc

>

nice little wishes.......

no nice little peaceful ego-mind necessary.......

not even necessary to forget/give-up nice little non-thinking

peace & love ego-mind...............

December 1, 2006

Hey,

buster breaker,

you certainly know how

to bust things up,

By the way, buster.

What shall we do with the pieces of the busted pot.

Anyway, why worry, the air in the pot is the same as the air outside

the pot,

bust the pot and 'see.'

The only thing one takes to the grave with one is Love,

After that, who knows? No body!

T.

Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 "

> <dennis_travis33@> wrote:

> >

> > the world of restless minds

> > is filled up with every

> > imaginary forms and systems

> >

> > ...One world so....filled up with many little confused ego-minds

> > ...just like the one of the restless mind looking at It

> >

> > the world of peaceful minds

> > is filled up with nothing but peace & love

> >

> > ...One world so....filled up with One Being of infinite peace & love

> > ...just the Same like the imaginary individual mind....looking at

It

> >

> > Marc

> >

>

Mack,

>

> No world of ignorance

>

> No world of peace & love

>

> That's just another DUALITY, Buster!

>

> Nonduality is just the whole kit and caboodle in perpetual

>

Trans

>

> For

>

ma

>

tion

>

signed,

>

YOURelation!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>

December 1, 2006

Did anyone see the flick with Robin Williams: " What Dreams May Come?

To go to hell and back searching for your Beloved.

Well, ain't that about IT?

Nisargadatta , " one1nottwo2 " <one1nottwo2

wrote:

>

> Hey,

> buster breaker,

> you certainly know how

> to bust things up,

> By the way, buster.

> What shall we do with the pieces of the busted pot.

>

> Anyway, why worry, the air in the pot is the same as the air

outside

> the pot,

> bust the pot and 'see.'

>

> The only thing one takes to the grave with one is Love,

>

> After that, who knows? No body!

>

> T.

>

> Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 "

> > <dennis_travis33@> wrote:

> > >

> > > the world of restless minds

> > > is filled up with every

> > > imaginary forms and systems

> > >

> > > ...One world so....filled up with many little confused ego-

minds

> > > ...just like the one of the restless mind looking at It

> > >

> > > the world of peaceful minds

> > > is filled up with nothing but peace & love

> > >

> > > ...One world so....filled up with One Being of infinite

peace & love

> > > ...just the Same like the imaginary individual mind....looking

at

> It

> > >

> > > Marc

> > >

> >

> > Mack,

> >

> > No world of ignorance

> >

> > No world of peace & love

> >

> > That's just another DUALITY, Buster!

> >

> > Nonduality is just the whole kit and caboodle in perpetual

> >

> > Trans

> >

> > For

> >

> > ma

> >

> > tion

> >

> > signed,

> >

> > YOURelation!!!!!!!!!!!!!

> >

>

December 1, 2006

i sure saw it. The Orphic Theme. Familiar with it? Used to think it

was IT. Sure as hell don't anymore! As sure as hell, because yeah,

trying to relive the past sure as hell IS hell!

As far as taking love anywhere, that's the same hell.

Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana wrote:

>

> Did anyone see the flick with Robin Williams: " What Dreams May Come?

>

> To go to hell and back searching for your Beloved.

>

> Well, ain't that about IT?

>

Nisargadatta , " one1nottwo2 " <one1nottwo2@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Hey,

> > buster breaker,

> > you certainly know how

> > to bust things up,

> > By the way, buster.

> > What shall we do with the pieces of the busted pot.

> >

> > Anyway, why worry, the air in the pot is the same as the air

> outside

> > the pot,

> > bust the pot and 'see.'

> >

> > The only thing one takes to the grave with one is Love,

> >

> > After that, who knows? No body!

> >

> > T.

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 "

> > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > the world of restless minds

> > > > is filled up with every

> > > > imaginary forms and systems

> > > >

> > > > ...One world so....filled up with many little confused ego-

> minds

> > > > ...just like the one of the restless mind looking at It

> > > >

> > > > the world of peaceful minds

> > > > is filled up with nothing but peace & love

> > > >

> > > > ...One world so....filled up with One Being of infinite

> peace & love

> > > > ...just the Same like the imaginary individual mind....looking

> at

> > It

> > > >

> > > > Marc

> > > >

> > >

> > > Mack,

> > >

> > > No world of ignorance

> > >

> > > No world of peace & love

> > >

> > > That's just another DUALITY, Buster!

> > >

> > > Nonduality is just the whole kit and caboodle in perpetual

> > >

> > > Trans

> > >

> > > For

> > >

> > > ma

> > >

> > > tion

> > >

> > > signed,

> > >

> > > YOURelation!!!!!!!!!!!!!

> > >

> >

>

December 2, 2006

Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords

wrote:

>

> i sure saw it. The Orphic Theme. Familiar with it? Used to

think it

> was IT. Sure as hell don't anymore! As sure as hell, because

yeah,

> trying to relive the past sure as hell IS hell!

>

> As far as taking love anywhere, that's the same hell.

love takes us when we look for it in every place, even in all the

wrong places including hell,

and love stays in what remains..

>

Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@>

wrote:

> >

> > Did anyone see the flick with Robin Williams: " What Dreams May

Come?

> >

> > To go to hell and back searching for your Beloved.

> >

> > Well, ain't that about IT?

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " one1nottwo2 "

<one1nottwo2@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Hey,

> > > buster breaker,

> > > you certainly know how

> > > to bust things up,

> > > By the way, buster.

> > > What shall we do with the pieces of the busted pot.

> > >

> > > Anyway, why worry, the air in the pot is the same as the air

> > outside

> > > the pot,

> > > bust the pot and 'see.'

> > >

> > > The only thing one takes to the grave with one is Love,

> > >

> > > After that, who knows? No body!

> > >

> > > T.

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 "

> > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > the world of restless minds

> > > > > is filled up with every

> > > > > imaginary forms and systems

> > > > >

> > > > > ...One world so....filled up with many little confused ego-

> > minds

> > > > > ...just like the one of the restless mind looking at It

> > > > >

> > > > > the world of peaceful minds

> > > > > is filled up with nothing but peace & love

> > > > >

> > > > > ...One world so....filled up with One Being of infinite

> > peace & love

> > > > > ...just the Same like the imaginary individual

mind....looking

> > at

> > > It

> > > > >

> > > > > Marc

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > Mack,

> > > >

> > > > No world of ignorance

> > > >

> > > > No world of peace & love

> > > >

> > > > That's just another DUALITY, Buster!

> > > >

> > > > Nonduality is just the whole kit and caboodle in perpetual

> > > >

> > > > Trans

> > > >

> > > > For

> > > >

> > > > ma

> > > >

> > > > tion

> > > >

> > > > signed,

> > > >

> > > > YOURelation!!!!!!!!!!!!!

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

December 2, 2006

Nisargadatta , " one1nottwo2 " <one1nottwo2

wrote:

>

> Hey,

> buster breaker,

> you certainly know how

> to bust things up,

> By the way, buster.

> What shall we do with the pieces of the busted pot.

>

> Anyway, why worry, the air in the pot is the same as the air

outside

> the pot,

> bust the pot and 'see.'

>

> The only thing one takes to the grave with one is Love,

How do you know ? Have you already been in your grave ?

Or was this just an outlet, a bit of relief from the pressure caused

by your pathetic sentiments called " spiritual heart " ?

Werner

>

> After that, who knows? No body!

>

> T.

>

> Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 "

> > <dennis_travis33@> wrote:

> > >

> > > the world of restless minds

> > > is filled up with every

> > > imaginary forms and systems

> > >

> > > ...One world so....filled up with many little confused ego-minds

> > > ...just like the one of the restless mind looking at It

> > >

> > > the world of peaceful minds

> > > is filled up with nothing but peace & love

> > >

> > > ...One world so....filled up with One Being of infinite

peace & love

> > > ...just the Same like the imaginary individual mind....looking

at

> It

> > >

> > > Marc

> > >

> >

> > Mack,

> >

> > No world of ignorance

> >

> > No world of peace & love

> >

> > That's just another DUALITY, Buster!

> >

> > Nonduality is just the whole kit and caboodle in perpetual

> >

> > Trans

> >

> > For

> >

> > ma

> >

> > tion

> >

> > signed,

> >

> > YOURelation!!!!!!!!!!!!!

> >

>

December 2, 2006

words words and even more words....

films films and even more films....

sounds stuff and even more things...

its a rat-wheel....running without anybody in it...

even those words are unwise

and so are all words....past or future ones...

....see this and silence is the one reality beyond all....

December 2, 2006

Anna/Williams declares:

" love takes us when we look for it in every place, even in all the

> wrong places including hell,

>

> and love stays in what remains.. "

but Sky twinkles:

there's a scene in " What Dreams May Come " where Robbins' black friend

and guide pleads with Robbins to stop TRYING to HURT his wife!

--even though Robbins IS CLEARLY THINKING and ACTING as though, kind

doctor that he is, is " just trying to help, just trying to sooth and

comfort. "

That's the whole point, Anna: attachment to anything is a form of

DENIAL. Every time Robbins tried to get through to his wife, she

would writhe in agony.

Don't you remember?

Attachment to love is the most insidious form of unconscious hatred,

deception and aggression. (Like the Spanish baptizing the Indian

before killing him. Or the neocon destroying Iraq in the name of

democracy.)

See, like Orpheus, like Robbins, the (too) " good " doctor, our

sanctimoniousness is an insidious form of hatred and deception. Even

Christ only wants his ultimate Apocalytic revenge in Revelations.

I mean, come on Anna, the scenes where Robbins doesn't even notice

that he's wallowing in slimy paint:

" love "

Love can neither be found nor lost. It either just happens or it just

doesn't. Any effort to look for, or even find it, IS hell.

Any effort is control. Control is attachment.

Love has no source, no destination, is beyond everything.

But control freaks hate that.

I should know!

Anna, you too, are a control freak.

" Enlightenment " is to completely give up any control whatsoever.

That's why it comes and goes. " Enlightenment " is just love.

You can't take it or leave it: it either takes or leaves you.

Love is God, hence, beyond language, it's even beyond memory--now

there's a hard one to accept!

LOVE IS BEYOND MEMORY!!!!

ps: we may both be saying the same thing.

Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@>

> wrote:

> >

> > i sure saw it. The Orphic Theme. Familiar with it? Used to

> think it

> > was IT. Sure as hell don't anymore! As sure as hell, because

> yeah,

> > trying to relive the past sure as hell IS hell!

> >

> > As far as taking love anywhere, that's the same hell.

>

> love takes us when we look for it in every place, even in all the

> wrong places including hell,

>

> and love stays in what remains..

>

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@>

> wrote:

> > >

> > > Did anyone see the flick with Robin Williams: " What Dreams May

> Come?

> > >

> > > To go to hell and back searching for your Beloved.

> > >

> > > Well, ain't that about IT?

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " one1nottwo2 "

> <one1nottwo2@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Hey,

> > > > buster breaker,

> > > > you certainly know how

> > > > to bust things up,

> > > > By the way, buster.

> > > > What shall we do with the pieces of the busted pot.

> > > >

> > > > Anyway, why worry, the air in the pot is the same as the air

> > > outside

> > > > the pot,

> > > > bust the pot and 'see.'

> > > >

> > > > The only thing one takes to the grave with one is Love,

> > > >

> > > > After that, who knows? No body!

> > > >

> > > > T.

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@>

> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 "

> > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > the world of restless minds

> > > > > > is filled up with every

> > > > > > imaginary forms and systems

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ...One world so....filled up with many little confused ego-

> > > minds

> > > > > > ...just like the one of the restless mind looking at It

> > > > > >

> > > > > > the world of peaceful minds

> > > > > > is filled up with nothing but peace & love

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ...One world so....filled up with One Being of infinite

> > > peace & love

> > > > > > ...just the Same like the imaginary individual

> mind....looking

> > > at

> > > > It

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Marc

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Mack,

> > > > >

> > > > > No world of ignorance

> > > > >

> > > > > No world of peace & love

> > > > >

> > > > > That's just another DUALITY, Buster!

> > > > >

> > > > > Nonduality is just the whole kit and caboodle in perpetual

> > > > >

> > > > > Trans

> > > > >

> > > > > For

> > > > >

> > > > > ma

> > > > >

> > > > > tion

> > > > >

> > > > > signed,

> > > > >

> > > > > YOURelation!!!!!!!!!!!!!

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

December 2, 2006

Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote:

>

> words words and even more words....

> films films and even more films....

> sounds stuff and even more things...

> its a rat-wheel....running without anybody in it...

> even those words are unwise

> and so are all words....past or future ones...

> ...see this and silence is the one reality beyond all....

>

even more words...

and even worse:

reading those words

December 2, 2006

....the point my Beloved, is in the end...we all find Love for we are

the Beloved appearing as the One and the Many....

and if that/this is attachment, I bow to the attachment I so Love.

Gassho,

Anna

Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords

wrote:

>

> Anna/Williams declares:

>

> " love takes us when we look for it in every place, even in all the

> > wrong places including hell,

> >

> > and love stays in what remains.. "

>

but Sky twinkles:

>

> there's a scene in " What Dreams May Come " where Robbins' black

friend

> and guide pleads with Robbins to stop TRYING to HURT his wife!

>

> --even though Robbins IS CLEARLY THINKING and ACTING as though,

kind

> doctor that he is, is " just trying to help, just trying to sooth

and

> comfort. "

>

> That's the whole point, Anna: attachment to anything is a form of

> DENIAL. Every time Robbins tried to get through to his wife, she

> would writhe in agony.

>

> Don't you remember?

>

> Attachment to love is the most insidious form of unconscious

hatred,

> deception and aggression. (Like the Spanish baptizing the Indian

> before killing him. Or the neocon destroying Iraq in the name of

> democracy.)

>

> See, like Orpheus, like Robbins, the (too) " good " doctor, our

> sanctimoniousness is an insidious form of hatred and deception.

Even

> Christ only wants his ultimate Apocalytic revenge in Revelations.

>

> I mean, come on Anna, the scenes where Robbins doesn't even notice

> that he's wallowing in slimy paint:

>

> " love "

>

> Love can neither be found nor lost. It either just happens or it

just

> doesn't. Any effort to look for, or even find it, IS hell.

>

> Any effort is control. Control is attachment.

>

> Love has no source, no destination, is beyond everything.

>

> But control freaks hate that.

>

> I should know!

>

> Anna, you too, are a control freak.

>

> " Enlightenment " is to completely give up any control whatsoever.

> That's why it comes and goes. " Enlightenment " is just love.

>

> You can't take it or leave it: it either takes or leaves

you.

>

> Love is God, hence, beyond language, it's even beyond memory--now

> there's a hard one to accept!

>

LOVE IS BEYOND MEMORY!!!!

ps: we may both be saying the same thing.

>

Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@>

wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > i sure saw it. The Orphic Theme. Familiar with it? Used to

> > think it

> > > was IT. Sure as hell don't anymore! As sure as hell, because

> > yeah,

> > > trying to relive the past sure as hell IS hell!

> > >

> > > As far as taking love anywhere, that's the same hell.

> >

> > love takes us when we look for it in every place, even in all

the

> > wrong places including hell,

> >

> > and love stays in what remains..

> >

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@>

> > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Did anyone see the flick with Robin Williams: " What Dreams

May

> > Come?

> > > >

> > > > To go to hell and back searching for your Beloved.

> > > >

> > > > Well, ain't that about IT?

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " one1nottwo2 "

> > <one1nottwo2@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Hey,

> > > > > buster breaker,

> > > > > you certainly know how

> > > > > to bust things up,

> > > > > By the way, buster.

> > > > > What shall we do with the pieces of the busted pot.

> > > > >

> > > > > Anyway, why worry, the air in the pot is the same as the

air

> > > > outside

> > > > > the pot,

> > > > > bust the pot and 'see.'

> > > > >

> > > > > The only thing one takes to the grave with one is Love,

> > > > >

> > > > > After that, who knows? No body!

> > > > >

> > > > > T.

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds "

<skywords@>

> > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 "

> > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > the world of restless minds

> > > > > > > is filled up with every

> > > > > > > imaginary forms and systems

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ...One world so....filled up with many little confused

ego-

> > > > minds

> > > > > > > ...just like the one of the restless mind looking at It

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > the world of peaceful minds

> > > > > > > is filled up with nothing but peace & love

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ...One world so....filled up with One Being of

infinite

> > > > peace & love

> > > > > > > ...just the Same like the imaginary individual

> > mind....looking

> > > > at

> > > > > It

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Marc

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Mack,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > No world of ignorance

> > > > > >

> > > > > > No world of peace & love

> > > > > >

> > > > > > That's just another DUALITY, Buster!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nonduality is just the whole kit and caboodle in

perpetual

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Trans

> > > > > >

> > > > > > For

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ma

> > > > > >

> > > > > > tion

> > > > > >

> > > > > > signed,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > YOURelation!!!!!!!!!!!!!

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

December 2, 2006

Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords

wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote:

> >

> > words words and even more words....

> > films films and even more films....

> > sounds stuff and even more things...

> > its a rat-wheel....running without anybody in it...

> > even those words are unwise

> > and so are all words....past or future ones...

> > ...see this and silence is the one reality beyond all....

> even more words...

>

> and even worse:

>

> reading those words

>

worse...

thats from a point of view....not from silence

maby your idea is to stick with the better side of the mind...

to silence its all mind...no division...not better...not worse...

just mind....

December 2, 2006

Oh yeah?

Well then, I'm sure you'll disagree with this as well, Anna:

1) Nobody can find love

2) Only love can find one (for a while)

3) Love may actually NEVER find many, perhaps even most

4) To insist that there's some inevitability about love's finding one

is to cheapen the miracle of one's being chosen by love.

5) Those, such as yourself, who insist on clinging to

love, who insist on the inevitability of finding love, they/you may

actually have no choice but to be in that stte of denial,

to be in that delusional state.

6) And lastly, those who insist that they themselves have " found

love, " may be the most loveless and forelorn denisens of loveless

hell.

Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana wrote:

>

> ...the point my Beloved, is in the end...we all find Love for we are

> the Beloved appearing as the One and the Many....

>

> and if that/this is attachment, I bow to the attachment I so Love.

>

> Gassho,

> Anna

>

> Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Anna/Williams declares:

> >

> > " love takes us when we look for it in every place, even in all the

> > > wrong places including hell,

> > >

> > > and love stays in what remains.. "

> >

> > but Sky twinkles:

> >

> > there's a scene in " What Dreams May Come " where Robbins' black

> friend

> > and guide pleads with Robbins to stop TRYING to HURT his wife!

> >

> > --even though Robbins IS CLEARLY THINKING and ACTING as though,

> kind

> > doctor that he is, is " just trying to help, just trying to sooth

> and

> > comfort. "

> >

> > That's the whole point, Anna: attachment to anything is a form of

> > DENIAL. Every time Robbins tried to get through to his wife, she

> > would writhe in agony.

> >

> > Don't you remember?

> >

> > Attachment to love is the most insidious form of unconscious

> hatred,

> > deception and aggression. (Like the Spanish baptizing the Indian

> > before killing him. Or the neocon destroying Iraq in the name of

> > democracy.)

> >

> > See, like Orpheus, like Robbins, the (too) " good " doctor, our

> > sanctimoniousness is an insidious form of hatred and deception.

> Even

> > Christ only wants his ultimate Apocalytic revenge in Revelations.

> >

> > I mean, come on Anna, the scenes where Robbins doesn't even notice

> > that he's wallowing in slimy paint:

> >

> > " love "

> >

> > Love can neither be found nor lost. It either just happens or it

> just

> > doesn't. Any effort to look for, or even find it, IS hell.

> >

> > Any effort is control. Control is attachment.

> >

> > Love has no source, no destination, is beyond everything.

> >

> > But control freaks hate that.

> >

> > I should know!

> >

> > Anna, you too, are a control freak.

> >

> > " Enlightenment " is to completely give up any control whatsoever.

> > That's why it comes and goes. " Enlightenment " is just love.

> >

> > You can't take it or leave it: it either takes or leaves

> you.

> >

> > Love is God, hence, beyond language, it's even beyond memory--now

> > there's a hard one to accept!

> >

> > LOVE IS BEYOND MEMORY!!!!

> >

> > ps: we may both be saying the same thing.

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@>

> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > i sure saw it. The Orphic Theme. Familiar with it? Used to

> > > think it

> > > > was IT. Sure as hell don't anymore! As sure as hell, because

> > > yeah,

> > > > trying to relive the past sure as hell IS hell!

> > > >

> > > > As far as taking love anywhere, that's the same hell.

> > >

> > > love takes us when we look for it in every place, even in all

> the

> > > wrong places including hell,

> > >

> > > and love stays in what remains..

> > >

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@>

> > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Did anyone see the flick with Robin Williams: " What Dreams

> May

> > > Come?

> > > > >

> > > > > To go to hell and back searching for your Beloved.

> > > > >

> > > > > Well, ain't that about IT?

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " one1nottwo2 "

> > > <one1nottwo2@>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hey,

> > > > > > buster breaker,

> > > > > > you certainly know how

> > > > > > to bust things up,

> > > > > > By the way, buster.

> > > > > > What shall we do with the pieces of the busted pot.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Anyway, why worry, the air in the pot is the same as the

> air

> > > > > outside

> > > > > > the pot,

> > > > > > bust the pot and 'see.'

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The only thing one takes to the grave with one is Love,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > After that, who knows? No body!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > T.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nisargadatta , " skywhilds "

> <skywords@>

> > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 "

> > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > the world of restless minds

> > > > > > > > is filled up with every

> > > > > > > > imaginary forms and systems

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ...One world so....filled up with many little confused

> ego-

> > > > > minds

> > > > > > > > ...just like the one of the restless mind looking at It

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > the world of peaceful minds

> > > > > > > > is filled up with nothing but peace & love

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ...One world so....filled up with One Being of

> infinite

> > > > > peace & love

> > > > > > > > ...just the Same like the imaginary individual

> > > mind....looking

> > > > > at

> > > > > > It

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Marc

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Mack,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > No world of ignorance

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > No world of peace & love

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > That's just another DUALITY, Buster!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Nonduality is just the whole kit and caboodle in

> perpetual

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Trans

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > For

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ma

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > tion

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > signed,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > YOURelation!!!!!!!!!!!!!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

December 2, 2006

Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " skywhilds " <skywords@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " iietsa " <iietsa@> wrote:

> > >

> > > words words and even more words....

> > > films films and even more films....

> > > sounds stuff and even more things...

> > > its a rat-wheel....running without anybody in it...

> > > even those words are unwise

> > > and so are all words....past or future ones...

> > > ...see this and silence is the one reality beyond all....

> > >

> >

> > even more words...

> >

> > and even worse:

> >

> > reading those words

> >

>

> worse...

> thats from a point of view....not from silence

> maby your idea is to stick with the better side of the mind...

> to silence its all mind...no division...not better...not worse...

> just mind....

>

to whomever or whatever

is writing this,

right now,

there is no difference

between mind

and no-mind

between silence

and no-silence

December 2, 2006

>Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> wrote:

>...the point my Beloved, is in the end...we all find Love for we are

>the Beloved appearing as the One and the Many.... and if that/this is

>attachment, I bow to the attachment I so Love.

The attachment is only there when one loves an object. Like all

attachments this leads to complications and neuroses.

Like for me. Whenever someone sais to me " I love you " I feel guilty.

Because I feel the expectation that I should say " I love you too " . It

seems to me like a deal and deals do not fit into my concept of love.

Instead of joining such deals I spent my life musing what love really

means. A deal? A feeling? Hormones? Hormones are o.k. What I really

hate are those I-Love-You-More games. My mother has always loved me

" more " . AAAhh!

But then. There is this beautiful and very famous Greek song " Sagapo " .

It goes:

I love you

because you are good

I love you

because you are you

(How simple, straight and respectful. A clear(ed) condition. And then

the second verse:)

I love

the whole world

and you are part of it

Yeah... this is the right way to love. IMHO.

Love

Stefan

December 2, 2006

I love

the whole world

and you are part of it.

Dear one,

I love you too.

However,

I am not a slice of the pizza, I am the whole pizza.

T.

Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge

wrote:

>

> >Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@>

wrote:

> >...the point my Beloved, is in the end...we all find Love for we

are

> >the Beloved appearing as the One and the Many.... and if that/this

is

> >attachment, I bow to the attachment I so Love.

>

> The attachment is only there when one loves an object. Like all

> attachments this leads to complications and neuroses.

>

> Like for me. Whenever someone sais to me " I love you " I feel guilty.

> Because I feel the expectation that I should say " I love you too " .

It

> seems to me like a deal and deals do not fit into my concept of

love.

>

> Instead of joining such deals I spent my life musing what love

really

> means. A deal? A feeling? Hormones? Hormones are o.k. What I really

> hate are those I-Love-You-More games. My mother has always loved me

> " more " . AAAhh!

>

> But then. There is this beautiful and very famous Greek

song " Sagapo " .

> It goes:

>

> I love you

> because you are good

> I love you

> because you are you

>

> (How simple, straight and respectful. A clear(ed) condition. And

then

> the second verse:)

>

> I love

> the whole world

> and you are part of it

>

> Yeah... this is the right way to love. IMHO.

>

> Love

> Stefan

>

December 2, 2006

glutton!

(i don't eat the crust anyway. Atkins diet. Just the meat and cheez.

lately, not even that. prefer organic meat and veges.)

Nisargadatta , " one1nottwo2 " <one1nottwo2

wrote:

>

> I love

> the whole world

> and you are part of it.

>

> Dear one,

>

> I love you too.

>

> However,

>

> I am not a slice of the pizza, I am the whole pizza.

> T.

>

> Nisargadatta , " Stefan " <s.petersilge@>

> wrote:

> >

> > >Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@>

> wrote:

> > >...the point my Beloved, is in the end...we all find Love for we

> are

> > >the Beloved appearing as the One and the Many.... and if that/this

> is

> > >attachment, I bow to the attachment I so Love.

> >

> > The attachment is only there when one loves an object. Like all

> > attachments this leads to complications and neuroses.

> >

> > Like for me. Whenever someone sais to me " I love you " I feel guilty.

> > Because I feel the expectation that I should say " I love you too " .

> It

> > seems to me like a deal and deals do not fit into my concept of

> love.

> >

> > Instead of joining such deals I spent my life musing what love

> really

> > means. A deal? A feeling? Hormones? Hormones are o.k. What I really

> > hate are those I-Love-You-More games. My mother has always loved me

> > " more " . AAAhh!

> >

> > But then. There is this beautiful and very famous Greek

> song " Sagapo " .

> > It goes:

> >

> > I love you

> > because you are good

> > I love you

> > because you are you

> >

> > (How simple, straight and respectful. A clear(ed) condition. And

> then

> > the second verse:)

> >

> > I love

> > the whole world

> > and you are part of it

> >

> > Yeah... this is the right way to love. IMHO.

> >

> > Love

> > Stefan

> >

>

December 4, 2006

Nisargadatta , " one1nottwo2 " <one1nottwo2

wrote:

>

> I love

> the whole world

> and you are part of it.

>

> Dear one,

>

> I love you too.

>

> However,

>

> I am not a slice of the pizza, I am the whole pizza.

> T.

>

everybody is the whole pizza....dear one

Marc

different appearing worlds....depending on the degree of ignorance

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